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April 19th, 2005, 03:36 PM
I appreciate the links, additional viewpoints are always welcome.
The first link was interesting from a 'how-to' perspective.
The second, while informative, had one sentence which makes me believe the author was biased.
Twila,
I took from the comments earlier that this was a netting in the rivers type fishing, not open sea as per commercial standards. In the case of fleets, I agree they should be bound by our commercial quota laws. As for net fishing in rivers, well... I personally find it abhorrant but would not object if that method were the choice for those doing small scale catches for food, and even possibly to supply the local bar with fish. (to clarify: i am thinking small town local bar, not city restaurants)
I appreciate the links, additional viewpoints are always welcome.
The first link was interesting from a 'how-to' perspective.
The second, while informative, had one sentence which makes me believe the author was biased.
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Statements like this have no place in a true and unbiased review of a topic. Call me cynical if you will but that's how I see it. I would need to read another article of equal factual content from the other side of the opinion aisle in order to put them together in a middle ground where the truth usually resides.
Throughout The Ecological Indian, Krech systematically debunks popular myths--many of them promoted by politically motivated greens pushing draconian environmental measures--and instead brings reality to the history of American Indians.
Twila,
I took from the comments earlier that this was a netting in the rivers type fishing, not open sea as per commercial standards. In the case of fleets, I agree they should be bound by our commercial quota laws. As for net fishing in rivers, well... I personally find it abhorrant but would not object if that method were the choice for those doing small scale catches for food, and even possibly to supply the local bar with fish. (to clarify: i am thinking small town local bar, not city restaurants)
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April 19th, 2005, 04:32 PM
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Sorry if I was unclear but by small scale and local pub/bar I meant a situation where they wouldn't need to go through a LOT of fish per month(town of 10 000 kinda thing)... something closer to a decent amount of pocket change as opposed to actually making a living, if that makes sense
River catch can be close to the same as open sea though.
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April 19th, 2005, 05:22 PM
How about another review of the same book by another independent scholar:
Book review
Or this essay by Charles Kendrick Cowdery:
Essay
Or Meriwether Lewis' description, of the famous Lewis and Clark Expedition, from which it's clear there was a lot of wastage:
Lewis
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That's the reviewer you're talking about, not the author. How many statements do you want?
...one sentence which makes me believe the author was biased.
How about another review of the same book by another independent scholar:
Book review
Or this essay by Charles Kendrick Cowdery:
Essay
Or Meriwether Lewis' description, of the famous Lewis and Clark Expedition, from which it's clear there was a lot of wastage:
Lewis
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April 19th, 2005, 05:34 PM
Or you could read chapter 4 of Jared Diamond's latest book, Collapse, on how the Anasazi self-destructed. They suffered some climate change, but hastened their own end by having no real understanding of the environment they were living in.
Or you could read chapter 4 of Jared Diamond's latest book, Collapse, on how the Anasazi self-destructed. They suffered some climate change, but hastened their own end by having no real understanding of the environment they were living in.
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April 19th, 2005, 10:24 PM
Just go to Yale BC where the Canyon starts/ends when the sockeye run and see what goes on for your self.
I know its not a majority but it is a large scale by a few. They do do the odd bust at a warehouse storing illegal salmon. But some bands are also quite militant and do what they want when they want. Go to the valley in Summer and it is not hard to buy $5 sockeye or any of the 5 species of salmon.
Something has to be done and a descent deal made for commercial, native and sportsfisherman so we can all have our share and leave enough to spawn, before salmon are totally wiped out.
All user groups have their poachers, but with the media bias and that conservative MP Cummins from Delta yapping on tv blaming only natives, make people believe it is just Natives doing it. But I fish that river and I see non native people poaching and taking more than their 2 sockeyes a day and no CO's around.
I just think busting Natives on the river makes for better TV than busting anyone elese. The media plays right into busting "illegal fishing by natives" and therefore gives the perception it is only the natives poaching, when that is not the case.
But it is politically incorrect to point out natives are screwing up but it is ok to blame non native fisherman for problems.
This world has gone stark raving mad if you ask me. I wish we could all get along.
Just go to Yale BC where the Canyon starts/ends when the sockeye run and see what goes on for your self.
I know its not a majority but it is a large scale by a few. They do do the odd bust at a warehouse storing illegal salmon. But some bands are also quite militant and do what they want when they want. Go to the valley in Summer and it is not hard to buy $5 sockeye or any of the 5 species of salmon.
Something has to be done and a descent deal made for commercial, native and sportsfisherman so we can all have our share and leave enough to spawn, before salmon are totally wiped out.
All user groups have their poachers, but with the media bias and that conservative MP Cummins from Delta yapping on tv blaming only natives, make people believe it is just Natives doing it. But I fish that river and I see non native people poaching and taking more than their 2 sockeyes a day and no CO's around.
I just think busting Natives on the river makes for better TV than busting anyone elese. The media plays right into busting "illegal fishing by natives" and therefore gives the perception it is only the natives poaching, when that is not the case.
But it is politically incorrect to point out natives are screwing up but it is ok to blame non native fisherman for problems.
This world has gone stark raving mad if you ask me. I wish we could all get along.
