Boeing vs Airbus - who's right?

Ten Packs

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Airbus had the official unveiling of the A380 - a double-decker monster jet that carries over 500 passengers and is capable of up to 800. The version being purchased by Virgin Airlines will include private double-beds and a small casino, in First Class.

Boeing, on the other hand, is betting on smaller new jets for direct-destination service.

There's a boat-load of money at stake on this one - I wonder whose vision of the future will prove right?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18174-2005Jan18.html (3 pages)
 

Ten Packs

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Airbus had the official unveiling of the A380 - a double-decker monster jet that carries over 500 passengers and is capable of up to 800. The version being purchased by Virgin Airlines will include private double-beds and a small casino, in First Class.

Boeing, on the other hand, is betting on smaller new jets for direct-destination service.

There's a boat-load of money at stake on this one - I wonder whose vision of the future will prove right?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18174-2005Jan18.html (3 pages)
 

Ten Packs

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Airbus had the official unveiling of the A380 - a double-decker monster jet that carries over 500 passengers and is capable of up to 800. The version being purchased by Virgin Airlines will include private double-beds and a small casino, in First Class.

Boeing, on the other hand, is betting on smaller new jets for direct-destination service.

There's a boat-load of money at stake on this one - I wonder whose vision of the future will prove right?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18174-2005Jan18.html (3 pages)
 

Andem

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Well.. there is less demand for 1st class travelling than there is coach, I think that says it all.
 

Andem

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Well.. there is less demand for 1st class travelling than there is coach, I think that says it all.
 

Andem

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Well.. there is less demand for 1st class travelling than there is coach, I think that says it all.
 

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Re: RE: Boeing vs Airbus - who's right?

Andem said:
Well.. there is less demand for 1st class travelling than there is coach, I think that says it all.

I strongly agree. I don't think there is enough first class to keep many planes like that going for any length of time, especially after the novelty wheres off and then there is the cost. Those seasts wont be cheap.
 

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Re: RE: Boeing vs Airbus - who's right?

Andem said:
Well.. there is less demand for 1st class travelling than there is coach, I think that says it all.

I strongly agree. I don't think there is enough first class to keep many planes like that going for any length of time, especially after the novelty wheres off and then there is the cost. Those seasts wont be cheap.
 

no1important

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Re: RE: Boeing vs Airbus - who's right?

Andem said:
Well.. there is less demand for 1st class travelling than there is coach, I think that says it all.

I strongly agree. I don't think there is enough first class to keep many planes like that going for any length of time, especially after the novelty wheres off and then there is the cost. Those seasts wont be cheap.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Boeing vs Airbus - wh

They're both right. Airbus is going to sell a few planes into the luxury market, but most of them will be packed like cattle cars. Boeing is going to have a few planes outfitted like cattle cars for intercontinetal travel, but most will be set up for luxury travel for small groups.

I think they'll both do okay in the niches they've chosen.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Boeing vs Airbus - wh

They're both right. Airbus is going to sell a few planes into the luxury market, but most of them will be packed like cattle cars. Boeing is going to have a few planes outfitted like cattle cars for intercontinetal travel, but most will be set up for luxury travel for small groups.

I think they'll both do okay in the niches they've chosen.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Boeing vs Airbus - wh

They're both right. Airbus is going to sell a few planes into the luxury market, but most of them will be packed like cattle cars. Boeing is going to have a few planes outfitted like cattle cars for intercontinetal travel, but most will be set up for luxury travel for small groups.

I think they'll both do okay in the niches they've chosen.
 

Mooseskin Johnny

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Boing has a problem: it has been years since they released a new passenger plane. I read (don't ask me where) that Wall Street analysts are thinking that Airbus has taken the passenger aircraft business away from Boing. They may be right. Boing needs to release a plane to the market soon, and it needs to be a success or they will forfeit that business. Then, maybe they would rather have the military business.

Many new planes are released with lots of luxury. The 707 had beds. The 747 had an upstairs lounge. New planes tend to be roomy and plush. After a few years, the owners add a few more seats, then a few more, remove a few luxuries, etc. Eventually they have a stripped down flying sardine can.
 

Mooseskin Johnny

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Boing has a problem: it has been years since they released a new passenger plane. I read (don't ask me where) that Wall Street analysts are thinking that Airbus has taken the passenger aircraft business away from Boing. They may be right. Boing needs to release a plane to the market soon, and it needs to be a success or they will forfeit that business. Then, maybe they would rather have the military business.

Many new planes are released with lots of luxury. The 707 had beds. The 747 had an upstairs lounge. New planes tend to be roomy and plush. After a few years, the owners add a few more seats, then a few more, remove a few luxuries, etc. Eventually they have a stripped down flying sardine can.
 

Mooseskin Johnny

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Dec 23, 2004
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Boing has a problem: it has been years since they released a new passenger plane. I read (don't ask me where) that Wall Street analysts are thinking that Airbus has taken the passenger aircraft business away from Boing. They may be right. Boing needs to release a plane to the market soon, and it needs to be a success or they will forfeit that business. Then, maybe they would rather have the military business.

Many new planes are released with lots of luxury. The 707 had beds. The 747 had an upstairs lounge. New planes tend to be roomy and plush. After a few years, the owners add a few more seats, then a few more, remove a few luxuries, etc. Eventually they have a stripped down flying sardine can.