Fox News coming to channel near you
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Look at it this way...it gives us the right send letters to Billy O'Reilly calling him all sorts of things. We also have the right not to watch. It gives us an example of how not to do things. The lunatic right will be quoting them so we can point and laugh and then tell the truth.
Canada isn't Mississippi, Andem. Fox News (sic ;-)) is liable to have some problems with that, but that's their problem.
Look at it this way...it gives us the right send letters to Billy O'Reilly calling him all sorts of things. We also have the right not to watch. It gives us an example of how not to do things. The lunatic right will be quoting them so we can point and laugh and then tell the truth.
Canada isn't Mississippi, Andem. Fox News (sic ;-)) is liable to have some problems with that, but that's their problem.
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... and he has so graciously given us more fodder in recent weeks.
Reverend Blair said:
... and he has so graciously given us more fodder in recent weeks.
When Aljazeera applied for a channel in Canada, they got nothing but hassles.
The "Fox" is in the henhouse.
Calm
The "Fox" is in the henhouse.
Calm
RE: Fox News coming to ch
AJ got cleared on the condition that the local cable carriers be responsible for any hate speech it carried. I think the same restriction should have been put on Fox .
AJ got cleared on the condition that the local cable carriers be responsible for any hate speech it carried. I think the same restriction should have been put on Fox .
Hi! Reverend Blair
I'm aware that they got consent from the CRTC.
But, the restrictions are such, that each carrier must agree to keep a copy of all content for a period of 2 years.
The cost and hassles are too much for the carriers to bear. So, they won't be on your remote any time soon.
Calm
I'm aware that they got consent from the CRTC.
But, the restrictions are such, that each carrier must agree to keep a copy of all content for a period of 2 years.
The cost and hassles are too much for the carriers to bear. So, they won't be on your remote any time soon.
Calm
I agree Rev. Why wouldn't they have to do the same? Because Fox will have less "hate speech". I doubt that.
Oh I dunno, I find it kind of comical that Billy boy is going to have to welcome Canadian viewers. After slamming Canadians for so long it seems apprapo (sp)that he will be proven for the hypocrite he is.
Once the novelty wears off, I think Canadians will find themselves switching back to real news stations.
Fox forgets that Canadians have better journalistic integrity. That's what sells in Canada
Once the novelty wears off, I think Canadians will find themselves switching back to real news stations.
Fox forgets that Canadians have better journalistic integrity. That's what sells in Canada
As an ideological conservative Canada, I am quite happy that Fox News is coming to Canada. While they definitely have a right-wing bias, I don't think that it is any more extreme than the left-wing bias found on CBC Newsworld.
I think that it's nice to have a U.S. news station that even bothers to talk about Canada, even if it is critical.
I think that it's nice to have a U.S. news station that even bothers to talk about Canada, even if it is critical.
RE: Fox News coming to ch
You know what's really funny? Conservatives always claim that the CBC has left wing bias. Those on the left say it has right-wing bias.
Any bias the CBC may or may not have is more than counteracted by the presence of CTV and Global though. There is a very definite right-wing bias in the Canadian press already.
You know what's really funny? Conservatives always claim that the CBC has left wing bias. Those on the left say it has right-wing bias.
Any bias the CBC may or may not have is more than counteracted by the presence of CTV and Global though. There is a very definite right-wing bias in the Canadian press already.
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree.
The CBC and the CTV definetly tow the liberal line when it comes their reporting. The list of reporters that have been giving government jobs is sickening.
The CBC and the CTV definetly tow the liberal line when it comes their reporting. The list of reporters that have been giving government jobs is sickening.
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But the NDP have never been in power federally, so how could they hire reporters into the government?
The press in all countries have a tendency to move into government jobs though. Somebody who covers foreign affairs or whatever for several years tends to develop some skills in that area.
But the NDP have never been in power federally, so how could they hire reporters into the government?
The press in all countries have a tendency to move into government jobs though. Somebody who covers foreign affairs or whatever for several years tends to develop some skills in that area.
The NDP has never been elected federally, but the Liberals have. The only difference between the two parties in my point of view is that the Liberal's are more pro-business, but in a twisted way in which they use the powers of government to support their tightly-knit group of Liberal-friendly businesses.
I'm from Saskatchewan, where we've seen our future squandered away by the socialist policies of our NDP governments (with a brief period where it was squandered by a corrupt government).
As for the press, if a reporter openly supports a party through their reporting during an election, and then is rewarded with a position by that government after the election, I believe there is something wrong.
I'm from Saskatchewan, where we've seen our future squandered away by the socialist policies of our NDP governments (with a brief period where it was squandered by a corrupt government).
As for the press, if a reporter openly supports a party through their reporting during an election, and then is rewarded with a position by that government after the election, I believe there is something wrong.
I just don't like the CRTC telling me what I can and cannoy watch. We get spike here but it is censored ie: no bay watch, DS9,Raw or some movies. why? We should also be able to get USA network and HBO if we want. If people do not like a particular channel don't watch it or block it out.
Hmmm...the view from the left is that they are nothing but a bunch of Harperites who are wiling to allow abortion and gay marriage only so they can get re-elected. I've seen way more evidence for that view than the conservative one.
I'm from Saskatchewan too. Not only that, but I'm old enough to remember Blakney...before the corrupt conservatives took over. I watched what the conservatives did to that province and, while they were undoubtedly corrupt, most of the problems came from their dogmatic adherence to conservative policies that are still being promoted by those on the right.
Here's a little question for you, Dukee. Was Saskatchewan a have province under the Conservatives?
Okay, here's another. When did the province of Saskatchewan go into the red?
The answer to the first question is a resounding, "No." The answer to the second question is, "Under the Progressive Conservative government of Grant Devine."
That's called an endorsement.
Okay, you are a conservative, so I'll try to put this in terms you can understand. Let's pretend you are the manager of a corporation. Are you going to hire the guy who endorsed you or the guy who did everthing he could to destroy your company?
With all namecalling aside, we live in a country that increasingly feels the need to have the government interfere in all aspects of life. Everything from raising our children to what languages we speak to how we wipe our noses to what we watch on TV.
The Liberal government (and to a greater extent, the Saskatchewan NDP government) have created a culture of entitlement, in which people feel that it is their right to have the government fix each and every problem in their lives. The government is happy to oblige them in this by increasing the scope of their powers, as well as the associated costs.
With every spending increase, the money taken from us, the taxpayers of the country, is increased. Government corruption and incompentence from these ballooning programs and departments rises exponentially, as well (Spudco, Adscam, Gun Registry, etc).
From the looks of your profile, you were from Saskatchewan. Looking at Saskatchewan's demographics, just like most of the hard working and intelligent people aged 18-65, you've already left.
Conservatism and corruption were not the cause of the downfall of Saskatchewan in the 1980's. It the commonly adhered to practice of the government spending well beyond its means. From Trudeau to Devine, this was how the governments of the day operated. You show me which territory in Canada didn't run deficits during this period.
As is evident by the policies of the Alberta Tories or the federal Reform party, Canadian conservatives of today hold fiscal accontability as being their top priority. We want to see the costs of the wasteful spending of the 70's and 80's that remain in the form of goverment debts to be eliminated. I would never stand behind a government that spends beyond its means, which is exactly what Calvert is doing today. The NDP continues to plunge our province further into debt. And the businesses and people continue to leave.
As for the corruption, I look at the enfractions of the Tories to be minor compared what we've seen from the NDP in recent years. The things that they have committed are downright disgraceful. The hundreds of millions that they have lost our provice is a crime that I will never forgive.
Saskatchewan has enormous economic oportunities that have been squandered by poor NDP government. The problems we faced are caused by the policies of the government that have run the place for the last 15 years, not the government that was in power when I was a child. We have many more physical resources than Alberta to the West (oil, potash, diamonds, lumber, agriculture), but our children and our future continues to migrate over to them because of the complete lack of opportunities at home.
Saskatchewan hasn't been a "have" province for pretty much the entire period of NDP rule (except during the rare occurances when oil rise over 50 dollars a barrel). But for me, I consider disposable income to be a better measure of our wealth. The average disposible income level for a Saskatchewan resident is 32% lower than his neighbour in Alberta.
The fact is that Calvert government continues to plunge us further into debt, while creating a business environment that drives business activity away. Today the NDP announced thier plan to create a seniority labour allocation policy that will has driven me to the decision to get my business out of this province.
That's a bad analogy. The media is just as much a part of the political process as the political parties are. When softball reporting and pompom waving gets government jobs there is definitely something wrong. This behavior is typical of the cronyism and corruption of Canada's government.
That's not name-calling...unless you're ashamed to have Harper as your leader, I guess.
And Harper's main criticism of the hugely intrusive secutiry act is that it infringe on our rights enough. You guys are worried about Fox News getting into Canada and ignoring the fact that the real attacks on personal rights and freedoms are coming from the right and being directed from the south.
I've been hearing that criticism for my entire life and have yet to see an example where the left or the centre are any worse than the right.
The greatest increase in our debt occurred under Mulroney. He also shifted the tax base away from corporations onto the middle and working classes even while the corporations were downsizing and the real average wage was shrinking. Harper's policies and the policies of conservative governments all across the country are just more of the same old rehashed neo-con voodoo economics. They never did work and they still don't work.
You don;t know the reasons why I moved to Winnipeg or how much contact/interest I still have in Saskatchewan. You would do well not to jump to conclusions.
Which is the same thing the Saskatchewan Party was proposing, it's just that they wanted to sell off the province's assets and cut social spending too.
But the conservatives pushed debt to new heights while cutting back what we were getting for our tax dollars.
Harper's proposed policies would have driven spending up hugely even while he decreased the government's income. We've seen how well that's worked in the US. It hasn't.
A monkey could manage the Alberta economy. It basically won the lottery. That Klein has kept that wealth away from people who need it shows the inhumanity of the neo-conservative doctrine very clearly.
So you call for tax cuts instead of debt repayment?
Funny, the people I know in Saskatchewan (including small business people and accountants) say that the Saskatchewan Party's policies would do that even more severely without any investment in the future of the province.
Odd...I don't recall a lot NDP MLAs being hauled away in handcuffs.
You mean as opposed to selling off the province's assets at fire-sale prices as the Saskatchewan Party proposed.
Funny...the province is doing better and better all of the time. Perhaps not privatising everything isn't "squandering" so much as it is long-term investment.
Actually a lot of the problems you face go back very much to Grant Devine and Brian Mulroney. It has taken a long time for the province to recover. A lot of new problems that you face have to do with the policies of the US...policies which the right generally champions.
You have much less oil though...where the big bucks are. Until very recently the federal government was clawing back $1.08 for every $1.00 you pumped in oil. Most of your resources are finite, not renewable and need to managed to avoid a boom-bust cycle and the quick depletion of those resources.
It became a have province about a week ago. That's why I started this thread.
I consider quality of life to be a better measure. That includes social programs that look after the vulnerable members of society and not trashing the environment for a few quick bucks.
Gee, the NDP moved to protect workers? That's terrible. They should encourage business to exploit and abuse workers instead.
Who owns most of the media in Saskatchewan? No need to look it up...the answer is the Asper family. I can show you their twin mansions if you come to Winnipeg. They're known for being pretty damned conservative...not exactly cheerleaders for the NDP.
The truth, dukee, is that the NDP have been doing a good enough job that the people of Saskatchewan returned them to office not that long ago. They even made inroads into the traditionally conservative rural areas.
Not ashamed at all. Stephen Harper is the brightest political mind that Canada has seen in a long time.
The security of my family should be my government's number one priority. The fact that the Canadian government has choosen to pass on that resposibility to our good neighbours to the south makes me question why we need Ottawa at all.
Well, if you're looking for numerical proof, try looking at the unemployment rate increases that occurred during the introduction of Trudeau's welfare state. If you want to know the reason why we had the inflation that we did in the 1980's, it's because the Bank of Canada was using monetary policy to chase after a static employment rate that was fundamentally shifted by government policy.
It is Mulroney's policies that Paul Martin takes credit for in regards to the fiscal state of the government. I am no fan of the GST, but without it there is no way that Martin would have been able to continue to balanace the government's operating budget (which was finally balanced when the Conservatives left office). When the Tories left office, government spending was $.97 for every dollar taken in taxes. This is in stark contrast to the $1.23 of spending per dollar of taxes that occured under Trudeau.
The fact is that the nanny-state of Trudeau nearly bankrupted this country.
As for your critism of Harper's economics, the same critisms were leveled against during the federal election and in recent weeks it turns out that his numbers were dead on! That $9 billion surplus didn't magically appear. Either the Liberal's knew about it and were lieing, or they didn't know about and it goes to show that Harper is much better in charting our country's fiscal position than those in power are.
That doesn't change the fact that those in that demographic have moved on to brighter opportunities elsewhere. It's criminal that bad government has ruined the opportunities of one of the most blessed provinces in the country.
Calvert's record is that of increased spending with a shrinking tax base. Tje NDP government's policy is to counteract the lower population levels by hiring more unionized civil servants. It makes me sick.
And so did the Liberals. As I stated before, the policies of the Alberta Tories and the Reform party are built on the foundation of fiscal restraint. There would be a revolution within if this was not the case.
The Conservative's platform was to cut the fat and corruption and govern based on the actual numbers. I am sick of my money going into bottomless money traps like the gun registry or Adscam. I would be stupid to do nothing while tens of thousands of dollars a month from my business goes into these programs.
As for the Alberta economy, I wish we had some of those monkies over here. Instead we get stuck with Calvert and his merry incompetents. As I said before, Saskatchewan has just as much resource wealth, but socialist government drove away the business development required to fully utilize it.
I call for fiscally responsible government.
I have never talked to a small business person in Saskatchewan that talks like that. Having the highest corporate tax rate in the country has the tendency to jade people
Which isn't to say that they shouldn't be (gov'ts in power have quite the ability to protect themselves). The current NDP government has lost Saskatchewan hundreds of millions of dollars in scandal, corruption and incompetence. Kind of makes those Tory computers look like peanuts.
Sounds like you bought into the NDP's election campaign.
Or protecting union interests. Inefficient crown monopolies are not the path to prosperity. They kill any chance of having a decent business environment and a better future.
Our problems go back to Tommy Douglis. Nationilizing every bloody thing in this province was the start of our decline. Our borders are a living example of economic inefficiency.
Saskatchewan actually has greater oil reserves than Alberta. Problem is, it would take a lot of investment to get it out of the ground and we just don't get the investment over here.
As for being dependent on the federal government for handouts, I prefer Alberta's model of being a net contributor.
It became a "have" province because oil is at $50 a barrel. Besides, ridiculous government equalization formulas don't mean much to me. I can see the state of my province by looking out my window.
I'll just put it this way. Saskatchewan can't support the social programs it has. I shudder to think how things will be in the future.
I see. You follow the Marxist notion of the evil capitalist exploiting the defenceless worker.
What this law means in the real world is that the government will now be able to tell me whether or not I can hire new staff and who in my business I will allocate hours to. This is the most intrusive piece of government infringement that I can posssibly think of. Business in this province doesn't stand a chance.
The Asper's are long time supporters of the Liberal Party of Canada. Like I said before, the government has the media in its pocket.
The NDP won a campaign of fear and lies in which they scraped by with one seat. The people didn't elect them on their record or policies. They elected them because they told little old ladies that if they voted for the other guys that they would freeze in the dark with no car insurance.
Judging by the outcome of the federal election there is hope coming in the next provincial election.