Ponderous Intellect
Posts: 4,490 
Location: Canada
Location: Canada
July 26th, 2004, 10:31 AM
Second. Now it is a demonstration. How about when they are asked to pack and leave. They made it clear that they will fight.
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Did you actually read my previous post where I said I am not supportive of the PA crooks that they are aking money. So i said it and i say it again. I am not supportive of the corruption the PA has been doing and I do not tolerate it.
Settlers lining up was a demonstration, period.
See http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=5772505
The Israelis are pulling out.
Finally, it isnt the PALS making money-- it is the corrupt PA. I truly do not understand your support of that corruption-- you seem to tolerate it- that goes against what the average Palestinian believes or deserves. Thats why theyre up in arms against the PA.
The only ones thinking about making money are the PA ministers, period.
See http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=5772505
The Israelis are pulling out.
Finally, it isnt the PALS making money-- it is the corrupt PA. I truly do not understand your support of that corruption-- you seem to tolerate it- that goes against what the average Palestinian believes or deserves. Thats why theyre up in arms against the PA.
The only ones thinking about making money are the PA ministers, period.
Second. Now it is a demonstration. How about when they are asked to pack and leave. They made it clear that they will fight.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,103
July 26th, 2004, 10:39 AM
Since neither you nor I have a crystal ball, debating what ifs is a pointless endeavor.
The only issue is what is actually transpiring.
As to the corruption, forgive me for not being more clear. I was not literraly inplying that you supported corruption. I was inferring from your posts that there was somehow a legitimization of that corruption.
There are somethings that are black and white, even in the middle east.
Deliberate terror against civilians-- by EITHER side(Goldstein or suicide bombers, no distinction)-- and the corruption that has only worstened the plight of the Pals are both bllack and white issues.
The Pals deserve better- they deserve a state and the opportunity to mprove their lives-- an anything or anyone that precludes them from negotiating a settlement with the Israelis is complicit in their ongoing misery, period.
Since neither you nor I have a crystal ball, debating what ifs is a pointless endeavor.
The only issue is what is actually transpiring.
As to the corruption, forgive me for not being more clear. I was not literraly inplying that you supported corruption. I was inferring from your posts that there was somehow a legitimization of that corruption.
There are somethings that are black and white, even in the middle east.
Deliberate terror against civilians-- by EITHER side(Goldstein or suicide bombers, no distinction)-- and the corruption that has only worstened the plight of the Pals are both bllack and white issues.
The Pals deserve better- they deserve a state and the opportunity to mprove their lives-- an anything or anyone that precludes them from negotiating a settlement with the Israelis is complicit in their ongoing misery, period.
Ponderous Intellect
Posts: 4,490
Location: Canada
Location: Canada
July 26th, 2004, 10:44 AM
I agree with what you just said full heartedly. When it comes to this issue I think we are looking for the best for both people.
There is no legirimization for corruption at all. I state that clearly. All these reponsible must be prosecuted. Not only the Pals deserve a beter life but the Israels deserve that too. I am for a two states living side by side sharing resources, knowledge and anything that possibly be shared.
I agree with what you just said full heartedly. When it comes to this issue I think we are looking for the best for both people.
There is no legirimization for corruption at all. I state that clearly. All these reponsible must be prosecuted. Not only the Pals deserve a beter life but the Israels deserve that too. I am for a two states living side by side sharing resources, knowledge and anything that possibly be shared.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,103
July 26th, 2004, 10:49 AM
On that we agree.
What needs more discussion is how and what needs to be done re Hamas, Jihad, et al.
They have stated (in words and deed) that they will not tolerate a 2 state solution. Their stated goal is the eradication of Israel.
The PA, such as it is, has refused to deal with that reality. That will affect not only Israel, but the Pals as well.
Given that, how do we proceed? Further, given the influence these groups have, who then really speaks for the Pals? In additiion, how do you keep Hizbollah out of the mix?
On that we agree.
What needs more discussion is how and what needs to be done re Hamas, Jihad, et al.
They have stated (in words and deed) that they will not tolerate a 2 state solution. Their stated goal is the eradication of Israel.
The PA, such as it is, has refused to deal with that reality. That will affect not only Israel, but the Pals as well.
Given that, how do we proceed? Further, given the influence these groups have, who then really speaks for the Pals? In additiion, how do you keep Hizbollah out of the mix?
