Not too much coming out of Afghanistan


Murphy
+1
#1
because, as of this post, it is 0300 hrs there. It's dark and US observation a/c will need to snoop around when it gets light out in order to access what's happening in the area. I am hopeful that we will start hearing things in about three hrs.

Finding out exactly how much damage was done will be difficult to determine for a few days. The US said that caves were one of their targets, and frankly, what and who were in them, and how much destruction was delivered will take time.

For those who may be curious, a GBU-43 is a guided bomb, hence GBU, with an approximate weight of 22,600 lb. Approximately 18,700 of it is explosive filler. The bomb is detonated by proximity fuzing, that is, the fuze is programmed to function at a certain distance above the ground.

It is not a fragmentation bomb. The large amount of HE (high explosive) composition inside is designed to create a large pressure wave, which violently moves the air. The leading edge of the wave moving into a cave will cause the air inside to compress because there will not be adequate ventilation to allow the air to flow out. A poor analogy, but think of a pop can that you shake and then open. There is violent venting and you get covered in carbonated water.

The people inside will have their ears ruptured, body parts torn off, guts forced out and shaken apart. How much so depends on where they are in proximity to the blast. Although the MOAB is not a fragmentation bomb, this rapid, violent air movement will cause any debris, natural or man made, to be blown around, striking whoever or whatever is in the way.

The lucky ones will be the people standing exposed to the pressure wave as it travels outward. They'll basically be torn to atoms. The unfortunate ones will be the ones who are too far away to be killed instantly, but encounter the blast wave or frag flying around in the air.

Apart from its size, this is a conventional HE bomb. Besides satellite imagery and fly overs, the only way to fully assess the damage is for people to go in and look around. It will be interesting to read about this part of the operation. They will want to itemize equipment and personnel losses not only to complete the after action report, but to discover how effective the MOAB was on its first deployment.

You can read a little about the GBU-43 here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43...ance_Air_Blast (external - login to view)
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Danbones
#2
well, at least they didn't hit the opium

on with the flow
can't have any american money laundering banks going under without drug money to launder
washingmachinington...yah dig?
 
MHz
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#3
****, Russia made Israel and the US 'donate' the elite of ISIS for Syria and Iraq. When Trump slipped and said the attack was against Iraq this is what unfolded so he was thinking about the future rather than the past. Either way what do they tell the ones that were expecting somebody with the 'news plans' to show up with, wait for it, some new plans. We've been stabbed in the back is supposed to slowing sink in unless you are as important as Saddam. Then instead of 'Where are those guys.' is is shortened up to just 'F*ck,'. That was Donny's new word last weekend.

Did he get the joke when China is quoted as saying ' trump has a small missile.'?

China Says Trump Has Small Missile Strikes

China's state news agency described Trump's Syria strikes as "the act of a weakened politician who needed to flex his muscles"
China Says Trump Has Small Missile Strikes (external - login to view)
 
petros
+1
#4
Take your pills. All of them at once and take a nap.
 
MHz
#5
Unfortunately for you I just got up and I have finished my daily chores. Now I can dive into the agenda driven things. SUP??

How do you take 'all of one' Magnesium is it pal. Cramps in the legs if I don't keep a daily routine going. For nap time, a jigger of ACV and the appropriate amount of baking soda so it can be drank like a shooter. If you are expecting me to croak anytime soon I can assure you it will be at least a decade.

I won't even have to add anything to my list of things to do before then. Both my father and grandfather died 2 weeks before their 76th birthday,
 
Ludlow
#6
Hey Murph do you remember the huge daisy cutter bomb that was used in Viet Nam?
 
Murphy
#7
Yes, I do. The MOAB functions on the same principle.
 
Curious Cdn
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#8
Quote: Originally Posted by MurphyView Post

Yes, I do. The MOAB functions on the same principle.

... fuel-air bomb as I recall.
 
Danbones
#9
...and the US still lost eh?

while the viet cong beat the US by re-use of what didn't explode when it hit the ground
 
Murphy
#10
Yes, that's what many people called it, but it was actually an explosive mixture with the consistency of warm toffee. They were usedin Vietnam and Afghanistan.

It differed from the MOAB in a few respects. Because it was designed to make helicopter landing areas, the explosion had to happen closer to, but above ground. It used a fuze extension which set off the explosive train on impact. The other thing was the composition of the main charge. In consistency only, it was like napalm. Napalm was gellied gas. Which, when properly mixed, took on the thickness of toffee sitting in the sun. Gooey.
 
Curious Cdn
#11
Those fully fuelled airliners that hit the World Trade Centre were fuel-air bombs, in principle.

Oh, I forgot. The Jews brought those towers down with dynamite because you can douse a cigarette in JP.
 
Murphy
+1
#12
You can douse a cigarette in virtually any flammable liquid. It's the fumes above the liquid that are the big concern.
 
Curious Cdn
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by MurphyView Post

You can douse a cigarette in virtually any flammable liquid. It's the fumes above the liquid that are the big concern.

I used to fill up a Zippo with JP-5. It worked okay ...was a bit smoky and it left a rectangular rash behind my pocket but it burned real good.
 
Murphy
#14
According to the weather computer, it's been about 1/2 hr since sunrise in Nangarhar province. The forecast is for sun, but apparently it's hazy out. I know there are a bunch of generals, impatiently waiting to find out what happened on the ground at the target site.
 
Curious Cdn
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by MurphyView Post

According to the weather computer, it's been about 1/2 hr since sunrise in Nangarhar province. The forecast is for sun, but apparently it's hazy out. I know there are a bunch of generals, impatiently waiting to find out what happened on the ground at the target site.

Whoops ... another school ...
 
Cliffy
+1
#16
Oh the wonders of war. Sounds like a bunch of guys on here get a proxy erection from Trump's big orgasm last night. Y'all be sickos.
 
MHz
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

Whoops ... another school ...

They also misspelled 'glow' as 'haze'. Perhaps the blood dripping out of their noses onto the keyboard is messing up their spelling and other shit keyboards do.
 
Ludlow
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Oh the wonders of war. Sounds like a bunch of guys on here get a proxy erection from Trump's big orgasm last night. Y'all be sickos.

I hate violence Cliffy.
 
MHz
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Oh the wonders of war. Sounds like a bunch of guys on here get a proxy erection from Trump's big orgasm last night. Y'all be sickos.

I'm not sure if firing all your bullets off in the first volley is the smart thing to do. If he treats other nations like this is Disneyland then once he gets focused on the homeland thing might go better. Name lthe Pentegram Syria on his maps and say 'go' to town after announcing a special holiday

Quote: Originally Posted by LudlowView Post

I hate violence Cliffy.

One side is way worse than the other.
 
Murphy
#20
It's 0645 hrs in Nangarhar now. The intel should be flowing. I hope they release some information before bedtime. Drones, helicopters, satellites, observation a/c and whoever they have on the ground that can get close.

Too early still to get reliable news, but this is what's floating around at this hour. A little tidbit that has not been confirmed.
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The US has currently declined to give any details on the result of the MOAB bombing in Afghanistan.

The target was said to be an ISIS base and tunnels in the east of Afghanistan.

But Independent Journal Review, a US news website, is reporting that at least 100 ISIS fighters have been killed. This is based on a report with freelance journalist Ahmad Wali Sarhadi in Afghanistan.

He told the IJR: “ISIS’s biggest complex in Afghanistan is destroyed.

“They say more than 100 ISIS members are killed. The casualties may get higher.”
(Higher causalities? Pretty fair assumption. - murphy)

Live updates as US 'in position to launch preemptive strike against North Korea' after MOAB attack in Afghanistan - Mirror Online (external - login to view)
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(Freelance Journalist) Sarhadi gave us a report from the local officials in Nangarhar:

"Yeah, I am on the line with local officials of Nangarhar. They say a big complex of ISIS has been destroyed by the dropping of the bomb from the U.S.! ISIS's biggest complex in Afghanistan is destroyed. They say more than 100 ISIS members are killed. The casualties may get higher."

Sarhadi also noted that while there are no official reports on civilian casualties yet, an official has said that they're still possible.

While other information on the attack will surface in the coming hours, this is one of the first reports on known casualties.

According to this initial casualty estimate, this would be one of the most effective military strikes against ISIS yet.
 
Johnnny
+1
#21
36 dead....
 
B00Mer
#22
Now wait for the Terrorist Attack on US soil as retaliation..

Maybe a truck slamming into a crowd, or even worse..

Donald Trump warns North Korea 'NEXT' after dropping MOAB on Afghanistan | Daily Star (external - login to view)
 
Tecumsehsbones
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

... fuel-air bomb as I recall.

You recall wrong. Not that it matters.

Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Now wait for the Terrorist Attack on US soil as retaliation..

Maybe a truck slamming into a crowd, or even worse..

Donald Trump warns North Korea 'NEXT' after dropping MOAB on Afghanistan | Daily Star (external - login to view)

You mean, they're gonna terror-strike us for this, but the hundreds if not thousands of ISIS boys we've killed over the last couple of years are no biggie?

Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnnyView Post

36 dead....

That's about 500 lbs of explosive per.

I'm not sure we're getting the optimum bang for our buck.

Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Oh the wonders of war. Sounds like a bunch of guys on here get a proxy erection from Trump's big orgasm last night. Y'all be sickos.

But if it weren't for us, what would you have to be a snide little haemorrhoid about?

Quote: Originally Posted by MurphyView Post

It used a fuze extension which set off the explosive train on impact.

In other words, it had a pipe attached to the nose of the bomb with the fuse in the end of the pipe, so the bomb falling nose-down would go off a coupla feet above the ground.
 
Danbones
+1
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnnyView Post

36 dead....

Well, these insane f-tards are gonna have to work really hard to keep up to the 500,000 children the US offed in Iraq

oooops
did I say insane f-tards?
I meant cowardly, insane, bent over, ZIONIST RUN, SLAVE f-tards
who still haven't won the war(S) they lied to start in the first place
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tay
#25
As many as 36 suspected Islamic State militants were killed in Afghanistan when the United States dropped "the mother of all bombs," one of the largest non-nuclear devices ever unleashed in combat, the Afghan defense ministry said on Friday.

The deaths have not been independently verified, but ministry spokesman Dawlat Waziri said no civilians were harmed in the massive blast that targeted a network of caves and tunnels.

"No civilian has been hurt and only the base, which Daesh used to launch attacks in other parts of the province, was destroyed," Waziri said in a statement.

At a village about 3 miles (5 km) from the remote, mountainous area where the bomb was dropped, witnesses said the ground shook, but homes and shops appeared unaffected.

"Last night's bomb was really huge, when it dropped, everywhere, it was shaking," said a resident, Palstar Khan, adding that he believed no civilians were in the area hit.

Other residents said they saw militants climbing up and down the mountain every day, making occasional visits to the village.

"They were Arabs, Pakistanis, Chinese and local insurgents coming to buy from shops in the bazaar," said resident Raz Mohammad.

On Friday, the village was swarming with Afghan and international troops, as helicopters and other aircraft flew overhead.

The strike was part of a joint operation by Afghan and international troops, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani's office said in a statement.

"Afghan and foreign troops closely coordinated this operation and were extra cautious to avoid any civilian casualties," it said.
Former Afghan president Hamid Karzai condemned the use of the weapon on Afghan soil.

"This is not the war on terror, but the inhuman and most brutal misuse of our country as testing ground for new and dangerous weapons," he said on social media network Twitter.

The Taliban condemned the use of the bomb, saying in a statement, "Using this massive bomb cannot be justified and will leave a material and psychological impact on our people."

U.S.'mother of all bombs' killed 36 Islamic State militants in Afghanistan | Reuters (external - login to view)
 
darkbeaver
+1
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by DanbonesView Post

Well, these insane f-tards are gonna have to work really hard to keep up to the 500,000 children the US offed in in Iraq

oooops
did I say insane f-tards?
I meant cowardly, insane, bent over, ZIONIST RUN, SLAVE f-tards
who still haven't won the war they lied to start in the first place

Workin it permanently is the only win. Of course there's only ever one exponent that wins and it has religious and cultural exemptions from prosecution for war crimes oweing to it's uniqueness on the homosapien tree.
 
Danbones
+1
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnnyView Post

36 dead....

The MOAB cost more than $300 million to develop and each bomb is estimated to cost $16 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43...ance_Air_Blast (external - login to view)

Well, ain't that debt effective spending
about $37,000 per bod, plus storage and delivery

bankers love indebting the grand children of tomorrow to kill their enemies today
total dummies love spending their grandchildren just to see things go boom on TV

Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Workin it permanently is the only win. Of course there's only ever one exponent that wins and it has religious and cultural exemptions from prosecution for war crimes oweing to it's uniqueness on the homosapien tree.

you left off the negative sign on that exponent

just sayin
 
Murphy
+1
#28
It will be interesting to get the story on how they came up with 36 dead. To produce any count suggests that someone was there on the ground.

More importantly, how much damage was caused by the explosion, how large was the affected area? Where possible, the tunnels and caves will need to be examined. I believe it is too early to get an accurate assessment.

Then there is the effect of the strike itself on ISIS. How much equipment, wpns and people were taken out?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by MurphyView Post

It will be interesting to get the story on how they came up with 36 dead. To produce any count suggests that someone was there on the ground.

Well, actually we have forces on the ground in the area. This is a Sooper Seekrit known only to eight members of the National Security Council, six senior officers at the Pentagon, three special operatives in the intelligence community. . .

and the Washington Post.

Quote:

More importantly, how much damage was caused by the explosion, how large was the affected area? Where possible, the tunnels and caves will need to be examined. I believe it is too early to get an accurate assessment.

Correct. It'll take awhile.

Quote:

Then there is the effect of the strike itself on ISIS. How much equipment, wpns and people were taken out?

And how will the damage hinder their planned and future operations?

This was an infrastructure strike, like bombing bridges and rail lines in a conventional war. The purpose wasn't so much to kill people, it was to degrade enemy capabilities.
 
Murphy
#30
I am not aware of the number and location of friendly forces on the ground. That would be confidential, but the number isn't important. The information that they gather is. Given the short amount of time after the strike and the terrain involved, assessment will take more than a few hours. And of course, there is the question of what will be released to the public.

I am not disputing the number of dead - 36. The count is not as important as the effectiveness of the MOAB itself. Personally, I think that it will be difficult to come up with an accurate number of ISIS killed. Analysts will want intel on its destructive capabilities, radius for the terrain, which would include any caves or tunnels. And the secondary effects - morale of ISIS, the reaction of certain countries.

More in the coming days.
 

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