Of all the crass ignorance, this takes the cake. It's exactly the same as when the father tells the child "no", so it runs to the mother and she says "yes".
Trudeau allowing illegal refugees...........it's Bull sh*t!
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Absolutely- Trudeau should be charged with international interference!This is horrible and needs to be dealt with immediately.
so, what should be done with them?
After they've been healed from their frost bite and hypothermia? Send them back to the US?
Send them back to their country of origin? Who's going to pay for that?
What about our policy on refugees, should be just say f'eck it and let them starve, die, etc at the border?
They are not our problem. Trudeau doesn't give a damn about the indigenous people freezing in Attawapiskat, so why get excited about refugees. Look after our own.
Aiding and abetting the disobedience of another country's regulations! Didn't think that was hard to grasp!
Back to the USA is good. The USA is not a totalitarian dictatorship which is persecuting their citizens despite what some want to have you believe.
Cheaper to send them away than keep them.
Very few of them will qualify for refugee status, the US is pretty careful on who they let in and they check before hand to give themselves some reassurance they can't/won't apply for refugee status in the US. If they don't qualify in the US, chances are they won't qualify in Canada. But they only think they have a better chance in Canada.
But yes, we will pay to have them shipped back home. Some effort will be made to recover their flight costs but that's usually hopeless.
The gov will leave them here and ask them to leave voluntarily at first, then later, if we find them, Canada will pay to ship them home.
The first thing we should do is give them a work visa right away. That way at least some of them will be able to find work and so support themselves. In fact, if they prove able to support themselves, they shouldn't even need to apply for refugee status and we could fasttrack their permanent resident status.
As for the rest who depend on social assistance, if we can prove on a balance of probabilities that they are not Convention refugees, we should send them back home unless they can support themselves before we have the chance to send them back home. This would put pressure on them to find work, and find it fast.
Good idea maybe we could give all the refugees a reserve up in northern Sask . Free food and lodging ,bingo Wednesday and Saturday .
According to Eagle refugees have life pretty good in the States , I guess they heard it's even easier here .
It must be if they are willing to cross the prairies in a winter blizzard , yikes .
This is absolutely stupid. This would only intice a flood of people to try their luck here.
Canadian jobs are for Canadians, stupid.
Refugee status should only be applied for from outside the country.
Sometimes refugees don't have time to apply from home if they must leave pronto before the government authorities get to them. For example, I remember an engineer friend years ago who described his departure from Iran soon after the Islamic Revolution. He'd showed up to work one day and was informed that he was fired. He went to the office to pick up his last pay but was informed that they can't pay Baha'is. So that very day he went home, told his wife and kids to take what they could fit into their car along with themselves and they drove across the border into Pakistan and abandoned all of their other possessions. That's what being a refugee looks like.
As for jobs, they belong to everyone. If you can't get a job because foreign nationals are more competent than you are, then go out and upgrade your skills through education like everyone else.
Your Iranian friend is a coward. If jobs are for everyone, he should have stayed their and fought for it. Going to Pakistan is another useless country occupied by useless lazy and stupid people.
I'm not here to look after all the scum, they have to learn to look after themselves or die according to natures natural laws.
Got it!!
So you can all be updated on just who these people are willing to risk life and limb to leave the USA for Canada
There’s no question what’s driving them,” says Paul Caulford, a doctor at the Canadian Centre for Refugee and Immigrant Healthcare outside Toronto. “Virtually every person who’s crossed, from pregnant women in the back of trucks to those sheparding their children to safety, have said to us that the United States is no longer a safe country for them to be in.”
He’s talking about the executive orders President Donald Trump has issued that make it harder for people to qualify for refugee status. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police say they’ve seen a spike in illegal immigration to Canada in the month since Trump has been in office. At Caulford’s clinic they’ve seen the number of people coming to them for help double. Most have walked across the unfenced, minimally patrolled, open border. Sometimes they’re dragging suitcases. Often they’re wearing clothes that offer little protection from the freezing temperatures.
"All of the people we've seen have been women and children,” says Caulford, who treats migrants who show up with blue hands frostbitten to the bone. “They've all had cold journeys in the back of trucks to save their lives literally but fleeing from, if you can believe this, from the United States.”
Most of the migrants who’ve arrived at Caulford’s clinic are from the West African nation of Nigeria. They fear being deported under Trump’s policies, and sent back to places where they’d be killed by warlords or gangs, or they would be forced to circumsize their daughters.
“They made their claims, or were planning to make their claims to asylum, in the US,” Caulford says. “And they have learned very quickly from media ... that [the US] is now a changed nation.”
These families aren’t using the regular routes into Canada, through an official border crossing, because of an agreement between Canada and the US. It says that anyone who’s already claimed asylum in the US can’t also apply in Canada.
But, there’s a loophole. If there’s no record of a family crossing the US-Canada border, and they just show up in Canada, the family can apply for refugee status. So Caulford says migrants pay what they call “agents” to smuggle them across the border. The smugglers often abandon families in parks, or by the side of a highway. Caulford recalls one mother who didn’t understand what the cold could do — she had never been in a climate like this before. She didn’t understand how frozen her arms were until she dropped her baby.
Stories like that make Brad Sinclair, the clinic’s executive director, say that no matter what policies Trump implements, Canadians will be ready.
“The world will unfold as it unfolds. We’re not going to be able to have any influence on what happens in the US, or the EU, or in sub-saharan Africa,” he says. “But I do know that the implications of that is that people are going to be arriving here who are sick. And we’re going to be there to give them help. Because that’s what we do in Canada.”
No one at the clinic would admit they crossed the border from the US into Canada. And the clinic staff protect their patients fiercely. They know people who Canadian authorities have arrested and deported. Just one patient from Nigeria agreed to speak. She wouldn’t give her name, and she wouldn’t say how she got to Canada. She chews her gum and nervously snaps and unsnaps her coat button. When asked if she came through the US, she says quickly and emphatically — no.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-02-17/refugees-are-freezing-flee-us-canada
There’s no question what’s driving them,” says Paul Caulford, a doctor at the Canadian Centre for Refugee and Immigrant Healthcare outside Toronto. “Virtually every person who’s crossed, from pregnant women in the back of trucks to those sheparding their children to safety, have said to us that the United States is no longer a safe country for them to be in.”
He’s talking about the executive orders President Donald Trump has issued that make it harder for people to qualify for refugee status. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police say they’ve seen a spike in illegal immigration to Canada in the month since Trump has been in office. At Caulford’s clinic they’ve seen the number of people coming to them for help double. Most have walked across the unfenced, minimally patrolled, open border. Sometimes they’re dragging suitcases. Often they’re wearing clothes that offer little protection from the freezing temperatures.
"All of the people we've seen have been women and children,” says Caulford, who treats migrants who show up with blue hands frostbitten to the bone. “They've all had cold journeys in the back of trucks to save their lives literally but fleeing from, if you can believe this, from the United States.”
Most of the migrants who’ve arrived at Caulford’s clinic are from the West African nation of Nigeria. They fear being deported under Trump’s policies, and sent back to places where they’d be killed by warlords or gangs, or they would be forced to circumsize their daughters.
“They made their claims, or were planning to make their claims to asylum, in the US,” Caulford says. “And they have learned very quickly from media ... that [the US] is now a changed nation.”
These families aren’t using the regular routes into Canada, through an official border crossing, because of an agreement between Canada and the US. It says that anyone who’s already claimed asylum in the US can’t also apply in Canada.
But, there’s a loophole. If there’s no record of a family crossing the US-Canada border, and they just show up in Canada, the family can apply for refugee status. So Caulford says migrants pay what they call “agents” to smuggle them across the border. The smugglers often abandon families in parks, or by the side of a highway. Caulford recalls one mother who didn’t understand what the cold could do — she had never been in a climate like this before. She didn’t understand how frozen her arms were until she dropped her baby.
Stories like that make Brad Sinclair, the clinic’s executive director, say that no matter what policies Trump implements, Canadians will be ready.
“The world will unfold as it unfolds. We’re not going to be able to have any influence on what happens in the US, or the EU, or in sub-saharan Africa,” he says. “But I do know that the implications of that is that people are going to be arriving here who are sick. And we’re going to be there to give them help. Because that’s what we do in Canada.”
No one at the clinic would admit they crossed the border from the US into Canada. And the clinic staff protect their patients fiercely. They know people who Canadian authorities have arrested and deported. Just one patient from Nigeria agreed to speak. She wouldn’t give her name, and she wouldn’t say how she got to Canada. She chews her gum and nervously snaps and unsnaps her coat button. When asked if she came through the US, she says quickly and emphatically — no.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-02-17/refugees-are-freezing-flee-us-canada
You'd have them patched up first. Aw shucks, you do have a heart. Might it be the White Christian in you?
No, I have absolutely NO heart when it comes to people who try to take advantage of my good nature and fair treatment of respectable people.