What was the deal with this Mohammad plane thief?

Locutus

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RCMP investigated Peterborough plane crash as ‘national security issue’

RCMP investigated Peterborough plane crash as ‘national security issue’ | Globalnews.ca


"Mental health issues" - Small Dead Animals


Flight Path - Small Dead Animals


 

Locutus

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A fart upwind is terrorism to they who want to see it

yeah, don't even worry about that yet man.

William | August 19, 2016 1:17 AM | Reply

A piper tomahawk is a light 2 seat trainer. I have flown small aircraft, including that type, for thirty years, and keep IFR current. Credibility established!

No amount of flight sim ground training will allow a person to take off / land a small aircraft. You will almost certainly be unable to even start it. It isn't a car. Fuel valves must be set, pumps activated and shut off, engine primed, mixture full rich, magneto set to the impulse mag only, throttle cracked, and press the starter. Once it fires you advance the throttle to about 800 rpm, switch to both mags, and then lean the mixture. Every aircraft is also slightly different due to the accumulation of little changes over time. Some of these little trainers are fourty or more years old.

If that young, allegedly mentally ill, man managed to get that far in the dark with no hands on training it borders on miraculous. Just taxiing in the dark is unbelievably disorienting, let alone taking off into the dark. Fully trained and experienced daytime VFR pilots won't even attempt it, and for good and lethal reasons, without some sort of in the aircraft training.

Small airfields have no security at all. People generally lock the doors as the avionics are expensive, and take the mag key home to prevent accidents. This one was stolen from a shop, which was almost certainly locked, while it was undergoing its annual inspection. Per a video of the owner that I saw it wasn't even fully serviceable yet - even more amazing that it flew at all. Any persons car is far more dangerous than a light aircraft. Nice, for example...

While I can speculate as to the intentions of an allegedly mentally ill man with a history of attempted crime named Mohammed, as can anyone with a lick of cmmon sense, I can provide a solid opinion on the practicality of an untrained person stealing an airplane and successfully flying it any distance in the dark.

It is so unlikely (flat out impossible is closer to the truth) that it might just be true.

Or ... He had some training that his dad was unaware of, or unwilling to admit to knowing of.
 

lone wolf

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You guys actually LIKE looking over your shoulders all the time? You're nuttier than the terrorists ... and you'll walk into something sooner or later in your destractions


Or is it the hate you love?
 

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maybe he was like that small plane pilot in the states that crashed into an IRS building with a light aircraft a yaer or two ago:
the IRS had ILLEGALLY screwed him silly and he snapped and made a point
 

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You guys actually LIKE looking over your shoulders all the time? You're nuttier than the terrorists ... and you'll walk into something sooner or later in your destractions


Or is it the hate you love?
I haven't had a flat tire in 20 years but still carry a spare in my car.....
It's like the old scout motto "Be ready"
 

lone wolf

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I'll bet you carry bullshyte repellent too

Whatever can one "ready" themselves with by spewing their fear all over the Internet ... aside from letting the feared know they're doing their jobs properly?
 
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Poor conbots.

They lost on the economy, so all they have left is fear and terror.
 

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maybe he was like that small plane pilot in the states that crashed into an IRS building with a light aircraft a yaer or two ago:
the IRS had ILLEGALLY screwed him silly and he snapped and made a point

or maybe he wasn't a pilot and plane owner like your guy. because he wasn't.

seems pretty fantastical that this kid could start, taxi, navigate and fly (in the dark mind you) the one in the OP. something ain't being told to us peons and/or the media ain't doing their job to find out.
 

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or maybe he wasn't a pilot and plane owner like your guy. because he wasn't.

seems pretty fantastical that this kid could start, taxi, navigate and fly (in the dark mind you) the one in the OP. something ain't being told to us peons and/or the media ain't doing their job to find out.
It can be done. Even when drunk. A few years ome kid in Regina stole a plane while drunk and flew around but crashed upon trying to land.
 

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But the remarkable drunken landings of Tommy Fitz have all but slipped into oblivion. The pilot, Thomas Fitzpatrick, turned a barroom bet into a feat of aeronautic wonder by stealing a plane from a New Jersey airport and landing it on St. Nicholas Avenue in northern Manhattan, in front of the bar where he had been drinking.

As if that were not stupefying enough, the man did nearly the exact same thing two years later. Both landings were pulled off in incredibly narrow landing areas, in the dark – and after a night of drinking in Washington Heights taverns and with a well-lubricated pilot at the controls. Both times ended with Mr. Fitzpatrick charged with wrongdoing.

The first of his flights was around 3 a.m. on Sept. 30, 1956, when Mr. Fitzpatrick, then 26, took a single-engine plane from the Teterboro School of Aeronautics in New Jersey and took off without lights or radio contact and landed on St. Nicholas Avenue near 191st Street.

The New York Times called it a “fine landing” and reported that it had been widely called “a feat of aeronautics.”

The second flight was on Oct. 4, 1958, just before 1 a.m.

Again he took a plane from Teterboro and this time landed on Amsterdam and 187th Street in front of a Yeshiva University building after having “come down like a marauder from the skies,” in the words of Ruben Levy, the magistrate at Mr. Fitzpatrick’s ensuing arraignment. Newspapers reported that Mr. Fitzpatrick jumped out of the landed plane wearing a gray suit and fled, but later turned himself in.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2...n-uptown-street-thats-where-the-bar-was/?_r=0

My guess is Mohammed (what else) had more nefarious things in mind, but who knows?
 

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Sounds like he was off his meds had some type of eureka moment where he stole and flew a plane, came back down after the adrenaline faded, panicked cause how is he going to land and got scared to land, crashed



Poor conbots.

They lost on the economy, so all they have left is fear and terror.

This year up until june hasn't started off too well....