Why ISIS atrocities will destroy it

[Northboy]

William Saletan: ISIS has burned itself with its latest atrocity | National Post




Now that a Muslim Nation has effectively declared war on ISIS let's see how things will play out.

 

[WLDB]

Now that a Muslim Nation has effectively declared war on ISIS let's see how things will play out.

I think Iraq and Syria were already at war with ISIS. Iran more or less is too just not very actively. Jordan is just the latest.

 

[B00Mer]

I think Iraq and Syria were already at war with ISIS. Iran more or less is too just not very actively. Jordan is just the latest.

UAE backed out of air strikes after the release of the video.

The city of Raqqa in Syria needs to be leveled.. everyone living there killed. It's their stronghold.

Then if the Arab nations send in troops the war would last about 2 weeks and be done.

 

[WLDB]

UAE backed out of air strikes after the release of the video.

Meh, Saudi Arabia and Jordan are between them so they dont have much to worry about anyway. They can just sit back and let others deal with it.

Then if the Arab nations send in troops the war would last about 2 weeks and be done.

Phase one maybe. They may decide to redraw the middle east. The way it was carved up after WW1 was never very popular with the locals.

 

[B00Mer]

Phase one maybe. They may decide to redraw the middle east. The way it was carved up after WW1 was never very popular with the locals.

...and they should.

 

[Northboy]

Meh, Saudi Arabia and Jordan are between them so they dont have much to worry about anyway. They can just sit back and let others deal with it.



Phase one maybe. They may decide to redraw the middle east. The way it was carved up after WW1 was never very popular with the locals.

Maybe the map of the Middle East needs to be redrawn. As you say, the present boundaries haven't been popular with the locals.

 

[WLDB]

I doubt Iran, Kuwait or a big chunk of Iraq do.

Maybe the map of the Middle East needs to be redrawn. As you say, the present boundaries haven't been popular with the locals.

I agree. And it should be those living there who decide. Not the west. That will only antagonize them more.

 

[Northboy]

I doubt Iran, Kuwait or a big chunk of Iraq do.



I agree. And it should be those living there who decide. Not the west. That will only antagonize them more.

I'm not sure a western style democracy will work for the region. I think we'll end up seeing small quasi independent states that are tied together in a confederation. Not like Iraq, something different.

 

[MHz]

William Saletan: ISIS has burned itself with its latest atrocity | National Post




Now that a Muslim Nation has effectively declared war on ISIS let's see how things will play out.

By Passover, the one based on the new moon being part of winter months rather than the first one after the spring equinox for the next 6 lotto wins of my choice.

Course if I won I wouldn't be here to do a play by play of something that only makes certain people nervous. Where would the fun be in that, mild annoyance is no reason to ratched anything up.

 

[BaalsTears]

I'm not sure a western style democracy will work for the region...

Democracy isn't in the cards for the peoples of the middle east.

 

[Cliffy]

Democracy isn't in the cards for the peoples of the middle east.

Cuz they don't want it. It's a cultural thing. They aren't stupid either. They can see how it doesn't work in the west. They see how corrupting it is.

 

[MHz]

Nor should it be, it hasn't worked as advertized anyplace. Give all the citizens of a nation on of those phones that can be(okay are) tracked and the voting in those (lets use) 10 new republics that just happen to 'be readily available' that unite and have a pis spot full of money, OPEC is a drop as the money is the usury collected over the last 100 years so there is the 'flash money' and the real money that is required to grease all the wheels that see things improve dramatically. I have no issue with that at all, sooner the better. 7 years leaves a lot of room for errors.

UN Constitution and referendum votes on all issues and no subs on constitutional issues. . . . check.

 

[BaalsTears]

Cuz they don't want it. It's a cultural thing...

I agree. Democracy requires a context that has only existed in a few eras in only one civilization. A democracy or democratic republic can only exist in the soil of civic virtue, and then only for a specific group. The democracy of Classical Athens is an example. It was limited to certain classes, and to the original pre-Delian League territory of Athens. The Roman Republic is another example. Citizenship was a precious thing limited to the patrican and plebian classes of Rome and then the Italian Peninsula from the period beginning with the end of the period of Roman Kings and continuing until the end of the First Punic War imo. Other people think that the Roman Republic continued until the rise of Octavian, but civic virtue was a memory by that time imo.