Higher wages for foreign workers


JLM
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Jason Kenney set to introduce new temporary foreign worker rules - Politics - CBC News

What a crock of friggin' bullsh*t! Jason Kenney is out of his gourd. There should be three criteria for filling jobs at Big Macs. Competence, a work ethic and first choice to local residents. If no locals apply, then hire the foreigners. It's not f**king rocket science! You don't pay people more based on ethniticity.
 
taxslave
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The whole point of TFWs was to fill gaps in the labour force. It only makes sense to make it more expensive than training Canadians.
 
captain morgan
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I'm guessing that the TFWs also don't get a free pass on healthcare or social services.
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Jason Kenney set to introduce new temporary foreign worker rules - Politics - CBC News

What a crock of friggin' bullsh*t! Jason Kenney is out of his gourd. There should be three criteria for filling jobs at Big Macs. Competence, a work ethic and first choice to local residents. If no locals apply, then hire the foreigners. It's not f**king rocket science! You don't pay people more based on ethniticity.

If you make it more expensive to hire temporary foreign workers, companies will be less likely to hire them. It's not f**king rocket science!
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

If you make it more expensive to hire temporary foreign workers, companies will be less likely to hire them. It's not f**king rocket science!

There's nothing wrong with hiring foreign workers if there is no other choice!
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

There's nothing wrong with hiring foreign workers if there is no other choice!

If you want to make sure that companies are actually giving first priority to local workers, making it more expensive to hire foreign workers will definitely do that.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

If you want to make sure that companies are actually giving first priority to local workers, making it more expensive to hire foreign workers will definitely do that.

The only thing that will do is to piss the locals off. Just watch what happens when there's a dozen locals and one or two others receiving higher pay! There's going to be blood shed.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

If you want to make sure that companies are actually giving first priority to local workers, making it more expensive to hire foreign workers will definitely do that.

I agree with you but would do it as a tax. Get some extra government revenue and avoid more anomosity between Canadian workers and foreign ones. I also think they should shore up their process that shows there are no Canadian's available.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

There's nothing wrong with hiring foreign workers if there is no other choice!

Such a Tea Bagger!

LOL... I LOVE IT!

It doesn't get better.

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

The only thing that will do is to piss the locals off. Just watch what happens when there's a dozen locals and one or two others receiving higher pay! There's going to be blood shed.


That's impossible! You guys are too polite and welcoming to all immigrants and cultures!
Last edited by EagleSmack; May 16th, 2014 at 11:27 AM..
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

The only thing that will do is to piss the locals off. Just watch what happens when there's a dozen locals and one or two others receiving higher pay! There's going to be blood shed.

Why are the companies going to hire foreign workers if there are locals willing to work for less?
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

That's impossible! You guys are to polite and welcoming to all immigrants and cultures!

It's a trap, in the fine print it says the only jobs they are suitable are as prison guards because they cannot understabd the inmates and so they cannot be successfully bribed, like in the past. That'll show 'em who is the big boss man.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Such a Tea Bagger!

LOL... I LOVE IT!

It doesn't get better.



That's impossible! You guys are too polite and welcoming to all immigrants and cultures!

If you think about it for a minute there, Einstein, (with the exception of the aboriginals) we are all immigrants or descendants of immigrants.

Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

Why are the companies going to hire foreign workers if there are locals willing to work for less?

Lots of reasons a couple would be more experience at the job, better work ethics, better employment record.
 
Twila
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If they are forced to pay foreign workers more there is no reason to NOT pay local Canadian workers more.

One of the excuses these companies have used is that they are unable to find workers willing to work. Clearly those unwilling to work see no point in slaving away for peanuts.

Now, they just need to work on ensuring that those that are brought into this country to work will know their rights and NOT be treated as slaves.
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Lots of reasons a couple would be more experience at the job, better work ethics, better employment record.

If that is the case then why shouldn't they get paid more?

Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

If they are forced to pay foreign workers more there is no reason to NOT pay local Canadian workers more.

One of the excuses these companies have used is that they are unable to find workers willing to work. Clearly those unwilling to work see no point in slaving away for peanuts.

You guys need to have more faith in the intelligence of business owners. Why would they pay a foreign worker more if they could get a Canadian worker to do the job for less money(and a hell of a lot less paperwork and red tape).

Raising the cost of temporary workers will reduce the number of cases where people are using temporary workers just because they don't want to pay competitive wages to local workers, and help ensure that people only use them in the event that they actually can't find anyone local to do the job.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

If that is the case then why shouldn't they get paid more?

Normally I would agree and it would be workable IF you have one or two local hires that you are justified in paying more so no one can make an ethnic issue out of it.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

If you think about it for a minute there, Einstein, (with the exception of the aboriginals) we are all immigrants or descendants of immigrants.

So what are you whining about in your previous posts Einstein?

Did you just have an epiphany and all of these immigrants getting higher wages are OK?
 
JLM
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My contention has always been you always pay a worker the maximum you can justify as it often works out that when you pay him an extra $ he'll make you 11/2 or 2 in return. This of course only works at jobs involving production, NOT bureaucrats!
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Normally I would agree and it would be workable IF you have one or two local hires that you are justified in paying more so no one can make an ethnic issue out of it.

Why does that matter? If they are qualified enough that companies are willing to pay more for them, why should anyone stand in their way.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Jason Kenney set to introduce new temporary foreign worker rules - Politics - CBC News

What a crock of friggin' bullsh*t! Jason Kenney is out of his gourd. There should be three criteria for filling jobs at Big Macs. Competence, a work ethic and first choice to local residents. If no locals apply, then hire the foreigners. It's not f**king rocket science! You don't pay people more based on ethniticity.

Tea Bagger!

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

The only thing that will do is to piss the locals off. Just watch what happens when there's a dozen locals and one or two others receiving higher pay! There's going to be blood shed.

Conservative!
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

Why does that matter? If they are qualified enough that companies are willing to pay more for them, why should anyone stand in their way.

In matters pertaining to labour common sense doesn't apply.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Tea Bagger!



Conservative!

Sorry to disappoint you but in matters political I'm NON partisan. I vote for whatever WORKS. -
 
Twila
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

If that is the case then why shouldn't they get paid more?



Raising the cost of temporary workers will reduce the number of cases where people are using temporary workers just because they don't want to pay competitive wages to local workers, and help ensure that people only use them in the event that they actually can't find anyone local to do the job.


Yeah, that's what I said. Not sure why I was grouped with the "you guys"
 
coldstream
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It's time to mandate that all companies hire Canadians FIRST if they are equally qualified for the job.. AND that ALL workers receive the SAME salary and benfits for similar work.. respecting minimum wage laws. Otherwise industries will find ways to scam the system and bring in foreign workers at low price.. and with no options to organize unions or move to other employers.

The whole program is sell-out to Corporate Canada's willingness to shunt its national employees in the name of profit by hiring cheap, indentured labour.. AND by moving industry off shore without any restriction on moving that same product back.. at First World Prices.. without any requirement to support that economy with their payrolls.

It's Free Trade in action.. and its driving us into an economic collapse.
Last edited by coldstream; May 16th, 2014 at 01:05 PM..
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post


Sorry to disappoint you but in matters political I'm NON partisan. I vote for whatever WORKS. -

Ahhhh... the conversion of Canada. Finally recognizing who they really are!
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

In matters pertaining to labour common sense doesn't apply.

I really can't see what sort of "common sense" you are working off here.

You listed three points in your first post. You want workers to be judged on competence, work ethic, and ensure that local people have first dibs.

Raising the cost of temporary foreign workers addresses all of those concerns. Obviously companies are going to look for local workers first if it costs them more to bring in foreign workers. If foreign workers cost more and they can get local workers for cheaper, they would never pay the higher foreign worker rates unless the foreign worker is better at the job in some way. All else the same, they would always go with the local worker since it would be cheaper and there would be less red tape.

Where do you see an issue in this?
 
Count_Lothian
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There are benefits to to hiring foreign workers.
Imposable to unionize them.
No need for medical benefits such a dental plan.
Pensions, you don't get no stinkin pensions.

It's popping up all over the place about abuse issues, especially when it comes to overtime pay.

Wet backs just don't have the same rights as us real people.
 
EagleSmack
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Oh look... did the incestuous tard get mad?



LMAO
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by Count_LothianView Post

There are benefits to to hiring foreign workers.
Imposable to unionize them.
No need for medical benefits such a dental plan.
Pensions, you don't get no stinkin pensions.

It's popping up all over the place about abuse issues, especially when it comes to overtime pay.

Wet backs just don't have the same rights as us real people.

Actually there are a lot of extra costs associated with hiring these workers.

The employer has to pay for private medical insurance for the worker until they live here long enough to qualify for provincial health coverage.

They need to pay for travel to and from their home country.
 
EagleSmack
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"Imposable" to unionize them.... lmao
 
Nuggler
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Such a Tea Bagger!

LOL... I LOVE IT!

It doesn't get better.



That's impossible! You guys are too polite and welcoming to all immigrants and cultures!

Nope, our Con govt. wants to glean votes from the DP's. that is all.
 
Count_Lothian
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

Actually there are a lot of extra costs associated with hiring these workers.

The employer has to pay for private medical insurance for the worker until they live here long enough to qualify for provincial health coverage.

They need to pay for travel to and from their home country.

Under the revised rules now that the Canadian government was caught with their pants down.
 
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