U.S. drops in press freedom ranking, to #46 out of 180 countries measured


Locutus
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Reporters Without Borders' World Press Freedom Index measures the state of the free press in countries around the world. The U.S. fell 13 places to No. 46 thanks to the conviction of a WikiLeaks' informant, the effort to track down and punish NSA leaker Edward Snowden and the Justice Department's monitoring of reporters.





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U.S. drops in press freedom ranking, to #46 out of 180 countries measured - NY Daily News
 
mentalfloss
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Every ranking list is basically telling people to move to Norway.
 
MHz
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As soon as I get authorization from Ottawa I'm going to comment on this.
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

As soon as I get authorization from Ottawa I'm going to comment on this.

Why? Canada is ranked very highly.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Every ranking list is basically telling people to move to Norway.

****ty place.

Freezing cold; snow; ice; dangerous polar bears; boring; empty; dark; socialist; trolls (real ones, not computer ones); and a few million lazy people who eat rotten fish.
Last edited by Blackleaf; Feb 13th, 2014 at 08:21 AM..
 
mentalfloss
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There must be some good reason to move there if it's constantly rated #1.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote:

mentalfloss;1868920]There must be some good reason to move there if it's constantly rated #1.

If there were good reasons for moving there, then there would be people moving there in their droves.

The fact that Norway has just 5 million people (compared to the 7 million people who live in the North West England Region of the EUSSR Motherland) in a land area 1.5 times bigger than that of the whole of the UK shows what the rest of the world thinks about living Norway.

The only good things about Norway are that it gives Britain a Christmas tree for Trafalgar Square every year to thank us for liberating them from the Hun during the War and that it isn't in the EU.
 
mentalfloss
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I'm pretty sure Norway doesn't want too many people living there either. I think most people just can't deal with the cold.
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

There must be some good reason to move there if it's constantly rated #1.

It's called pity for living in a climate colder than Canada's.
 
BaalsTears
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Obama has had a chilling effect on press freedom. He investigates reporters like James Rosen. Obama is the imperial president.
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

****ty place.

Freezing cold; snow; ice; dangerous polar bears; boring; empty; dark; socialist; trolls (real ones, not computer ones); and a few million lazy people who eat rotten fish.

Sounds like a place where many Canadians would fit in.

Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

The only good things about Norway are that it gives Britain a Christmas tree for Trafalgar Square every year to thank us for liberating them from the Hun during the War and that it isn't in the EU.

Liberated? Ha. Its not like there was much of a struggle. The Nazis in Norway surrendered without a fight when the war ended. They were pretty well ignored for the last year or so of the war.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

Obama has had a chilling effect on press freedom. He investigates reporters like James Rosen. Obama is the imperial president.

Not to mention calling in the press after the disastrous Obamacare roll out.

"We need to get this thing under control."

The began the propaganda machine.... Millions enrolled! All are Happy! Republicans are racist!
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

Obama has had a chilling effect on press freedom. He investigates reporters like James Rosen. Obama is the imperial president.

A number of his predecessors were as well. Damn near every one from 1800 til the west was settled was "Imperial." They expanded the borders with or without approval from congress, ignored the people who happened to be living there whether it be the natives, Mexicans or Spanish. In Jackson's case he ignored the Supreme Court to do whatever he wanted. Lincoln had members of the press arrested and got rid of habeas corpus. Compared to back then the US is doing alright freedom wise. Particularly if you are a woman or racial minority.
 
damngrumpy
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Russia is experiencing a conservative adrenalin rush it actually comes from a
flip flop. they went from Communist repression to the new Russian Orthodox
repressive religious conservative message.. As for America they have two
problems. One the newsrooms are now entertainment redistribution centers
and have more to do with opinion than information. Second to that the ultra
conservatives and ultra liberal elements have taken charge of the agenda.
Its also why more and more people are watching entertainment.
The trouble is there is no substance to the news we are getting in many cases
not all cases though
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

It's called pity for living in a climate colder than Canada's.

They are warmer. Their average is 7.7C ours is 2.5C
 
BaalsTears
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDBView Post

A number of his predecessors were as well. Damn near every one from 1800 til the west was settled was "Imperial." They expanded the borders with or without approval from congress, ignored the people who happened to be living there whether it be the natives, Mexicans or Spanish. In Jackson's case he ignored the Supreme Court to do whatever he wanted. Lincoln had members of the press arrested and got rid of habeas corpus. Compared to back then the US is doing alright freedom wise. Particularly if you are a woman or racial minority.

The ends do not justify the means. Take that to heart as a rule to live by.

What importance is individual liberty? Individual liberty is guaranteed by restrictions on the accumulation of power. That's why the US Constitution created such a cumbersome apparatus for governance.

Only a moral relativist would ignore the historical process. You excuse Obama's present violation of the checks and balances of the US Constitution, designed to protect American citizens from overreach by any branch of the federal govt., to actions taken long ago against peoples who were not considered at the time to be American citizens. In doing so you make an error in the nature of the polity and how it has been shaped by historical evolution. Do not attempt to hold the past to today's standards. Doing so can easily be used to discredit all of the past of every civilization.

Don't attempt to play the "women and minorities" argument where it has no place. Never before in American history has the executive branch attempted to permanently govern without the cooperation of Congress. Obama has even admitted he intends to govern unilaterally without recourse to Congress. This approach has never been attempted before, and threatens to change the very character of the polity from that of a representative republic to that of an autocracy. This is very similar to what occurred at the end of the Roman Republic when the two Roman Consuls became mere figureheads as complete power passed to the emperors. That break signified the change in the essence of the polity. A change for the worse as both plebians and the equestrian order became less free.

Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Russia is experiencing a conservative adrenalin rush it actually comes from a
flip flop. they went from Communist repression to the new Russian Orthodox
repressive religious conservative message.. As for America they have two
problems. One the newsrooms are now entertainment redistribution centers
and have more to do with opinion than information. Second to that the ultra
conservatives and ultra liberal elements have taken charge of the agenda.
Its also why more and more people are watching entertainment.
The trouble is there is no substance to the news we are getting in many cases
not all cases though

Imo those two faults are mere symptoms of the underlying malady. I think it's necessary to look at process. Start with the American public school system.
 

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