Former Lostprophets lead singer Ian Watkins jailed for 35 years for child sex abuse


Blackleaf
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The former leader singer of Welsh rock band Lostprophets has been jailed for 35 years today for child sex offences, including against two babies.

Mr Justice Royce at Cardiff Crown Court told Watkins, 36, that he will have to serve 29 years without parole and the remaining six years on licence. He will be in his mid sixties when he is released.

His two co-defendants, who were MOTHERS of two of the abused children, were jailed for 14 and 17 years. One of them gave Watkins her young son to abuse and the other gave him his young daughter.

Watkins admitted the attempted rape and sexual assault of a child under 13 but pleaded not guilty to rape.

Police said Ian Watkins used his celebrity status to abuse young children.

He also admitted conspiring to rape a child, three counts of sexual assault involving children, seven involving taking, making or possessing indecent images of children and one of possessing an extreme pornographic image involving a sex act on an animal.

Watkins also held a massive amount of child born on his computer. The amount of data involved - 27 terabytes - was FIVE time the size of the databases held by the entire South Wales Police. Police had to search through his huge banks of computer storage to find his sick child porn stash - then turned to the Government's top computer specialists at GCHQ (Britain's equivalent of the NSA) to crack his encryption codes.

During sentencing, Mr Justice Royce said the case "plunged into new depths of depravity".

Meanwhile, South Wales Police are investigating whether Watkins also committed offences in Germany and America and the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has confirmed it was investigating three police forces over the case.


After Watkins's guilty plea, ex-bandmates Luke Johnson, Jamie Oliver, Lee Gaze, Stuart Richardson and Mike Lewis released a statement condemning his behaviour.

'Many of you, understandably, want to know if we knew what Ian was doing. To be clear: We did not,' they said.

'We knew that Ian was a difficult character. Our personal relationships with him had deteriorated in recent years to a point that working together was a constant, miserable challenge.

'But despite his battles with drugs, his egotistic behaviour and the resulting fractures and frustrations within our band, we never imagined him capable of behaviour of the type he has now admitted.'

It was revealed during the trial that Watkins would book into hotel rooms after performing with the band to sexually abuse children.


Lostprophets' Ian Watkins sentenced to 35 years over child sex offences


Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins accepted he was a 'determined and committed paedophile'


Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins has been sentenced to 35 years for child sex offences including the attempted rape of a baby.

Watkins, 36, from Pontypridd, pleaded guilty to 13 child sex offences at Cardiff Crown Court in November.

He will spend 29 years of his sentence in jail with a further six years on licence.

His two co-defendants, mothers of the abused children, were also jailed for 14 and 17 years.

Speaking before he sentenced the three defendants, Mr Justice Royce said the case broke "new ground" and "plunged into new depths of depravity".

Watkins, who will be eligible for parole after serving two thirds of his prison term, was sentenced alongside the two women known as Woman A and Woman B who also pleaded guilty to child abuse charges.

Woman A was jailed for 14 years and Woman B was sentenced to 17 years in prison.

Watkins admitted the attempted rape and sexual assault of a child under 13 but pleaded not guilty to rape.

Prosecution: Cardiff Crown Court heard that Watkins was 'a determined and committed paedophile engaged in serious sex offences involving of two babies'


He also admitted conspiring to rape a child, three counts of sexual assault involving children, seven involving taking, making or possessing indecent images of children and one of possessing an extreme pornographic image involving a sex act on an animal.

During sentencing, Mr Justice Royce said the case "plunged into new depths of depravity".

"Those who have appeared in these courts over many years, see here, a large number of horrific cases," he said.

"This case breaks new ground. Any decent person... will experience shock, revulsion and incredulity."

He added it was a "classic case that the evidence was so overwhelming" there should not be credit given.

The judge said Watkins had a "corrupting influence", and had shown a "complete lack of remorse". He also said Watkins posed a significant risk to the public in particular to women with young children.

He told Woman A: "What you were both doing is both sickening and incomprehensible" and said to Woman B that she did not regard her child as a human being.

Earlier on Wednesday, defending barrister Sally O'Neill QC told how Watkins "belatedly realised the gravity of what happened" and was "deeply, deeply sorry".


South Wales Police Det Ch Insp Peter Doyle said his officers were working with police in Germany and the US

She told the court how he had developed an "obsession" with filming himself having sex and had become addicted to drugs at the age of 30.

She said Watkins had no memory of the crime involving Woman A and her son, where he admitted to the attempted rape of a baby.

"Because he had no memory he could not believe he had done that," she said, adding he had now "confronted reality" over what he had done.

Watkins was on 15-minute suicide watch while on remand, the court heard.

Jonathan Fuller QC, defending for Woman A, said she felt genuine remorse and was devastated by what she had done.


Joanne Mjedzelics says she repeatedly reported Watkins to police

Christine Laing QC, defending Woman B, said she was clearly remorseful for her behaviour and the loss of her child was her punishment.

Meanwhile, South Wales Police are investigating whether Watkins also committed offences in Germany and America and the IPCC has confirmed it was investigating three police forces over the case.

Detective Chief Inspector Peter Doyle, senior investigating officer, said the sentences reflected the gravity of the crimes and the investigation uncovered "the most disturbing child abuse evidence" he had seen in his 28 years as an officer.

"Today's sentence does not mark the end of our investigations and we will work tirelessly to identify any other victims or witnesses and seek the justice they deserve.

"In the last few weeks we have received further information that will now be looked at by the investigation team."

Earlier he said the investigation was large scale because the amount of data involved - 27 terabytes - was "four or five times" the size of the databases held by South Wales Police.

And he said how he was sure there were other child victims.

Suzanne Thomas, Senior Crown Prosecutor at CPS Wales, said Watkins was the ringleader and the defendants conspired to commit "appalling crimes of abuse against young and defenceless victims".

She added: "He is a highly dangerous and manipulative individual who preyed on his victims in a calculated manner.

"The other two defendants were active participants in the most shocking abuse of their own children. They too have received sentences that reflect their admissions of guilt for these offences.

"It is incomprehensible that adults would commit such appalling acts against children and young people and our thoughts remain with the victims and those close to them."




Watkins with his former bandmates, who have urged other victims to come forward


After Watkins's guilty plea, ex-bandmates Luke Johnson, Jamie Oliver, Lee Gaze, Stuart Richardson and Mike Lewis released a statement condemning his behaviour.


'Many of you, understandably, want to know if we knew what Ian was doing. To be clear: We did not,' they said.

'We knew that Ian was a difficult character. Our personal relationships with him had deteriorated in recent years to a point that working together was a constant, miserable challenge.

'But despite his battles with drugs, his egotistic behaviour and the resulting fractures and frustrations within our band, we never imagined him capable of behaviour of the type he has now admitted.

'We are heartbroken, angry and disgusted at what has been revealed.

'Our hearts go out to Ian's family, the fans and friends he betrayed and, most importantly, the victims of his crimes and others like them.

'We hope for justice but also that Ian will truly take responsibility for what he's done.

'We would urge any other victims to contact the authorities.'



IPCC INVESTIGATION

Police watchdog the IPCC is investigating three forces over their handling of allegations made about Ian Watkins between 2008-2012.

South Yorkshire, Bedfordshire and South Wales are being investigated over information received about Watkins prior to his arrest in December 2012.

Three other forces, Essex, West Yorkshire and the Metropolitan Police, also supplied information that they had been given about Watkins for the inquiry but are not currently under investigation.

An officer from South Wales is the focus of the IPCC probe there.

Three reports were made to South Yorkshire between March and May 2012 relating to Watkins.

A member of the public reported an allegation of child abuse against Watkins in October 2012 to Bedfordshire Police.


PAEDOPHILE'S COMPUTER HAD MORE STORAGE THAN POLICE


GCHQ

Paedophile rockstar Ian Watkins had more computer data than the police force who investigated his evil crimes, it emerged today.

The shamed Lostprophets singer stored depraved images on dozens of laptops and hard drives - giving him a massive 27 terabytes of storage.

Police had to search through his huge banks of computer storage to find his sick child porn stash - then turned to the Government's top computer specialists at GCHQ to crack his encryption codes.

Detective Super Inspector Peter Doyle, who led the investigation, said: 'Watkins' data storage size was 27 terabytes - which is five times the size of South Wales Police systems in storage capacity.

'Not all of it was illegal material - but if you need 27 terabytes then you're clearly into that kind of world.'


Watkins, of Pontypridd, South Wales, spent a lot of his Lostprophets' fortune on 'computing and multimedia devices'.

The singer used his technology to record music and design his band's album art and tour posters.

But he also kept indecent images of children including a video of him attempting to rape a baby.

Watkins tried to cover his tracks by using off-site 'cloud' storage - he also used passwords including one: 'If***kids'.


But it was cracked by GCHQ.




BBC News - Lostprophets' Ian Watkins sentenced to 35 years over child sex offences
Last edited by Blackleaf; Dec 18th, 2013 at 01:18 PM..
 
damngrumpy
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Good God this guy should never see the light of day ever again.
This is beyond the pale. How could someones conscience
abandon them to such a degree?
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Good God this guy should never see the light of day ever again.
This is beyond the pale. How could someones conscience
abandon them to such a degree?


He doesn't have a conscience, and neither do those two "mothers".
 
shadowshiv
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Thirty five years is better than what he would probably get in Canada for similar crimes. That being said, I wish that he was imprisoned for the rest of his life, as he can still reoffend when he gets out. He'd only be in his 60s!
 
tay
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Ian Watkins: Justice Royce' sentencing remarks

Any decent person looking at and listening to the material here will experience shock; revulsion; anger and incredulity. What you three did plumbed new depths of depravity.






I came across the Court Records of this case.


I couldn't finish reading it because the rage in my sensibilities as a human wouldn't let me..................
 
Blackleaf
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Ian Watkins and Ronnie Biggs assessed by press

Two very different criminals take up many column inches in Thursday's papers.



The life of Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs - which ended on Wednesday - fascinates the press to the end, while there is only disgust at the actions of Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins, who's been jailed for child sex offences.

The Sun quotes a "sickening" phone call during which the rocker described his actions as "mega lolz" - shorthand for "laughing out loud" - and said he didn't know why people were so "freaked out" by his 13 offences, including the attempted rape of a baby.

However, the Daily Mail focuses on two women he manipulated into allowing him to abuse their children by asking: "How could any mother be so evil?"

Entrepreneur Shazia Awan, reviewing the papers for the BBC News Channel, described the latter as a "shocking headline", saying the paper should have been focusing on Watkins. However, political blogger Susie Boniface said: "It's mainly women who buy the Mail, so they're talking to their demographic," before adding that - judging by the front page - readers could be "forgiven for thinking the pop star hadn't done very much at all".


On its front page, the Sun quotes the phrase - "It was mega lolz" - used by Lostprophets star Ian Watkins in a "sickening" phone call, ahead of his sentencing for sexually abusing babies.



The Daily Mail covers the court hearing by asking, in relation to Watkins' two co-defendants who allowed the singer to assault their children: "How could any mother be so evil?"

BBC News - Ian Watkins and Ronnie Biggs assessed by press
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

The former leader singer of Welsh rock band Lostprophets has been jailed for 35 years today for child sex offences, including against two babies.

BC News - Lostprophets' Ian Watkins sentenced to 35 years over child sex offences


Cut the F**ker's nuts off.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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I've never heard of the Lost Prophets so just out of interest I thought I'd sample a bit of their music. It's amazing that someone could be so talented and so disgusting. Maybe he'll get shanked in jail.
 
WLDB
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I find it odd that he was referred to as a rock star just because he was in a band. I hadnt heard of him. I dont know anyone who has either. Given his age, crime and sentence I doubt he will ever get out which is good.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

I've never heard of the Lost Prophets so just out of interest I thought I'd sample a bit of their music. It's amazing that someone could be so talented and so disgusting. Maybe he'll get shanked in jail.

Yeah. It's one thing being a bank robber in prison, but quite another being a child sex abuser. They are the most hated and despised of all the prisoners in the nick. He'll have to spend the next 30 years making sure nobody has put broken glass in his food. He'll have to sleep with one eye open every night for the next three decades to make sure his cellmate doesn't slash his throat with a razorblade as he sleeps.

Just look what happened to Ian Huntley. The former school caretaker was jailed in 2002 for murdering ten year old girls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in Soham, Cambridgeshire. He was sentenced to serve at least 40 years, with no chance at all of parole until 2042. Since his time in prison a fellow prisoner has tried to gouge Huntley's eye out and someone else threw a pan of boiling water over him as he was working in the kitchen. He's only been in prison for ten years and still has another 30 years to go. I reckon he'll be killed in the nick.

So this is what Watkins has to deal with for the next thirty years.

Quote: Originally Posted by WLDBView Post

I find it odd that he was referred to as a rock star just because he was in a band

He WAS a rockstar. The Lostprophets were big in Britain and Europe and elsewhere. They just hadn't cracked America (as for Canada, nobody's bothered about cracking that). They were formed in 1997 with Watkins originally the turntablist, becoming the lead singer in 1999.

A TOWN CALLED HYPOCRISY (from the 2006 album Liberation Transmission)

This video is now, looking back, rather creepy, with Watkins playing a children's TV show presenter:


Lostprophets - A Town Called Hypocrisy - YouTube



 
karrie
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

(as for Canada, nobody's bothered about cracking that).


And yet, here you are, every day, hanging out with us. Every day, trying to tell us we should like Britain. Odd behaviour if no one cares about our opinions, wouldn't you say?

I can't help but think Canada matters a little more than you want to admit. lol.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

And yet, here you are, every day, hanging out with us. Every day, trying to tell us we should like Britain. Odd behaviour if no one cares about our opinions, wouldn't you say?

I can't help but think Canada matters a little more than you want to admit. lol.


Do you think Canada really gives a rat's a$$ what Blackleaf thinks?
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Do you think Canada really gives a rat's a$$ what Blackleaf thinks?


You lot certainly do.
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H, a singer in the pop group Steps, is angry after a photo of him appeared next to stories about the convicted paedophile Ian Watkins.

H, whose real name is Ian Watkins, was said to be "astonished" that his photo was still being linked to "the appalling crimes of the Lostprophets singer".

Google said it was looking into "layout" issues with its pages.


Ian 'H' Watkins 'angry and upset' at Google News results

By Dave Lee Technology reporter, BBC News
20 December 2013



Ian 'H' Watkins said he was "astonished" by the Google News search result

Lawyers for Steps singer Ian "H" Watkins have approached Google after his image appeared next to stories about convicted paedophile Ian Watkins.

The "furious" singer's management said lawyers were "taking immediate steps to urgently rectify the position".

He was said to be "astonished" that his photo was still being linked to "the appalling crimes of the Lostprophets singer".

Google said it was looking into "layout" issues with its pages.

Mr Watkins won a court apology earlier this week after website E! Online used his picture on a story about the abuse case.

Unlike typical news websites, Google News is not managed by a human editor, instead using complex algorithms to determine the importance and relevance of stories posted on news websites around the world.

Google's algorithm appeared to be unable to differentiate between the two cases, taking a picture - from a BBC News article about the E! apology - and pairing it with a separate article by CBS News about the abuse.

A Google spokesman added: "For some specific searches Ian H Watkins' picture is appearing in our results because he is relevant to the story, having received a court apology.

"We are looking into the issue he raises."


H (second right) with his Steps bandmates

'Angry and upset'


"A publisher's intention is irrelevant to the question of liability for defamation," said Emma Woollcott, media lawyer at Mishcon de Reya.

"What matters is what the ordinary person would understand by what they read.

"If electronic algorithms connect two pieces of information and defamatory inferences arise, there may be potential for liability, even if the connection is inadvertent."

US-based CBS News, which incorrectly received criticism from several users on Twitter because of the mix-up, said it had never had an image of "H" in its system - and was therefore confident it had not made an error.

After being alerted to the problem by one of his fans, Ian 'H' Watkins tweeted angrily about the issue on Thursday, saying: "I can't actually tell you how angry and upset I am right now.... ;0("

He shared a screenshot showing the results of a search for "ian watkins cbs news".


BBC News - Ian 'H' Watkins 'angry and upset' at Google News results
Last edited by Blackleaf; Dec 22nd, 2013 at 12:12 PM..
 

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