Life is longer not necessarily healthier!


JLM
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Average Canadian will spend a decade suffering from serious illness | Health | Life | National Post

We are living longer but for many what's the point? Physical health is just one part of the equation, overall I'd say generally speaking we are declining when it comes to mental health.......... We are quickly approaching the end of our financial ability to look after every one.
 
petros
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When I'm completly spent, which will only be another 10-15 years ( I was recently diagnosed with MS) I'm going to get drunk and pass out in a snowbank
Last edited by petros; Mar 15th, 2013 at 08:07 AM..
 
SLM
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Well that's chipper news for a Friday morning.

It's not surprising as we seem to have a tendency to reach for quantity before quality, just something inherent in the human animal I suppose. We can keep people alive, but should we? I wouldn't relish living to a grand age if living that life was about suffering.

Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

When I'm completly spent, which will only be another 10-15 years ( I was recently diagnosed with MS) I'm going to get druink and pass out in a snowbank

I'm sorry to hear that, my mother has MS. It's not fun.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Average Canadian will spend a decade suffering from serious illness | Health | Life | National Post

We are living longer but for many what's the point? Physical health is just one part of the equation, overall I'd say generally speaking we are declining when it comes to mental health.......... We are quickly approaching the end of our financial ability to look after every one.

We aren't if the government would stop p i ss ing away our money on graft and other fraudulent wasteful activities.

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The results underline that the health-care system must not just “mop up” acute disease, then abandon the patient to chronic illness, said Prof. Bondy. Instead of simply saving the life of someone who has a heart attack, for instance, the system should also provide rehabilitation and other care afterward to ensure the patient lives the rest of his life in better shape, she said.

But then there is this: Even after Canadians aged 50 and older are diagnosed with a chronic condition like heart disease or diabetes, they rarely make lifestyle changes that could improve quality of life or prolong their lives, a report suggests.

Thus we also have a huge part in this because of lifestyle choice which comes down to diet and exercise which we fail to comply with even after diagnosis.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

Thus we also have a huge part in this because of lifestyle choice which comes down to diet and exercise which we fail to comply with even after diagnosis.

You certainly have that right.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

I'm sorry to hear that, my mother has MS. It's not fun.

For years the doc thought it was frostbite that made my foot numb and neuropathy issues until the other foot went numb. Walking is a real bitch these days.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

For years the doc thought it was frostbite that made my foot numb and neuropathy issues until the other foot went numb. Walking is a real bitch these days.

Hang in there, there's many advances in modern medicine these days.
 
Sal
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Aging in general sucks.

Just throwing it in here because it's a thread about our health. I bought a NutriBullet yesterday. They have been unavailable since Christmas. Hopefully it will make it much easier to get my 10 servings of veggies/fruit a day.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

Aging in general sucks.

Just throwing it in here because it's a thread about our health. I bought a NutriBullet yesterday. They have been unavailable since Christmas. Hopefully it will make it much easier to get my 10 servings of veggies/fruit a day.

10 servings? Are you part horse?
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

10 servings? Are you part horse?

I've never been called a horse before. A bitch maybe but I think they are mostly carnivores. Oh wait, I've been called a cow... I think their four stomachs hold a lot of veggie material.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

I've never been called a horse before. A bitch maybe but I think they are mostly carnivores. Oh wait, I've been called a cow... I think their four stomachs hold a lot of veggie material.

Eat lots of carrots and get a job as a seeing eye bitch.
 
taxslave
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As long as we are willing to finance the lifestyles of an excessive number of doctors this will continue. SOmehow our society has come to feel that we must live forever no matter the cost or quality.
 
petros
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Their lifestyles? Can you expand on that?
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

For years the doc thought it was frostbite that made my foot numb and neuropathy issues until the other foot went numb. Walking is a real bitch these days.

If you haven't done so yet, I would seriously, seriously recommend contacting the MS Society. There are a plethora of symptom mitigating treatments out there and the society is often more on top of them than the doctors and clinics are.

Just a suggestion.
 
Nuggler
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

When I'm completly spent, which will only be another 10-15 years ( I was recently diagnosed with MS) I'm going to get drunk and pass out in a snowbank


New drugs and therapies for MS. Saw a doc on it other night. Not the crippling disease it once was..............so they say.

One of my uncles had MS. Died of old age. 90. The disease did slow down his mental acuity, but only in the last 2-3 years.

See all the specialists you can, Petros. They CAN help. Things have changed for the better.

I have wet AMD, and if there was no treatment for that, I'd be joining you in the snowbank real soon like.

Nice genes they pass on to us, eh.

Whut ken ya do.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

If you haven't done so yet, I would seriously, seriously recommend contacting the MS Society. There are a plethora of symptom mitigating treatments out there and the society is often more on top of them than the doctors and clinics are.

Just a suggestion.

Thanks, good idear I will be looking into it.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Thanks, good idear I will be looking into it.

Cool. It's a very strange world to navigate, every individual's MS manifests in such different ways, it can be difficult to wrap your head around it sometimes. But I think the MS Society has a really well organized and vast network, I genuinely feel they are probably one of the better associations dedicated to a specific illness/disease out there. They're not just about raising money for research like a lot of them seem to be, they can be quite helpful in some very real and practical ways.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by NugglerView Post

New drugs and therapies for MS. Saw a doc on it other night. Not the crippling disease it once was..............so they say.

One of my uncles had MS. Died of old age. 90. The disease did slow down his mental acuity, but only in the last 2-3 years.

See all the specialists you can, Petros. They CAN help. Things have changed for the better.

I have wet AMD, and if there was no treatment for that, I'd be joining you in the snowbank real soon like.

Nice genes they pass on to us, eh.

Whut ken ya do.

There are two types of MS, one is Relapse Remitting, the other is full on. I have the full on type.

My cousin was hit with MS 20 years ago and keeps it in check with weed and yoga. He used to work for the actor Steven Seagal who recommended he try the yoga. It worked now he is yoga instructor to the stars and making huge bucks. He's in better health now than ever.

Check out his story.

Courage and Caution -Garth McLeans battle with MS - YouTube



Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

I genuinely feel they are probably one of the better associations dedicated to a specific illness/disease out there. They're not just about raising money for research like a lot of them seem to be, they can be quite helpful in some very real and practical ways.

Arthritis Society is good like that too.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

As long as we are willing to finance the lifestyles of an excessive number of doctors this will continue. SOmehow our society has come to feel that we must live forever no matter the cost or quality.

You'll change your attitude too, as you get close to looking eye to eye with the grim reaper! -
 
karrie
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High blood pressure is one of the chronic illnesses they're discussing.

So do yourself a favour and don't stress about statistical health. You'll give yourself high blood pressure.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

10 servings? Are you part horse?

I generally build a salad comprised of lettuce, tomato, cuke, green peppers, celery, green onions and mushrooms and have a big bowl of that and don't worry too much about the 10 servings. I think one piece of fruit a day is enough, it's got lots of sugar too.

Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

High blood pressure is one of the chronic illnesses they're discussing.

So do yourself a favour and don't stress about statistical health. You'll give yourself high blood pressure.

High blood pressure is not an illness, only a symptom, I've had high blood pressure for years while being perfectly healthy. It can be easily controlled, GENERALLY.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Eat lots of carrots and get a job as a seeing eye bitch.

I like carrots I'm not so good on a leash though.

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I generally build a salad comprised of lettuce, tomato, cuke, green peppers, celery, green onions and mushrooms and have a big bowl of that and don't worry too much about the 10 servings. I think one piece of fruit a day is enough, it's got lots of sugar too.

A good practice. The problem is that as you age your body is not as adept at absorbing the nutrients. I also have to be careful with my blood sugar as it drops. I have done various health kicks along the way, juicing etc. We need to adjust our diets to our personal bodily requirements as we move along.
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High blood pressure is not an illness, only a symptom, I've had high blood pressure for years while being perfectly healthy. It can be easily controlled, GENERALLY.

yes, diet and exercise can make a significant difference with blood pressure.
 
WLDB
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From what Ive read seniors do have the highest suicide rate here. Clearly some people are not choosing quantity over quality. I imagine I'd go that route if my quality of life was gone and not coming back.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDBView Post

From what Ive read seniors do have the highest suicide rate here. Clearly some people are not choosing quantity over quality. I imagine I'd go that route if my quality of life was gone and not coming back.

just make sure you are not surrounded by good intentioned nutbags who will keep people (in their best interests) going forever because Life is Saaaaaaaacrid.
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

just make sure you are not surrounded by good intentioned nutbags who will keep people (in their best interests) going forever because Life is Saaaaaaaacrid.

Oh thats taken care of. As far as I know everyone in my family agrees with me on this issue. Though there's no way to know what any potential children I might have will think. Time will tell. My grandmother is wasting away in a nursing home from Dimentia. Its definitely not a pleasant sight. Thats not life, its just existence. Sitting around waiting to die.
 

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