'Dead' baby delivered on Toronto street actually alive

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'Dead' baby delivered on Toronto street actually alive

TORONTO - A young mother gave birth on a North York street in the bitter cold early Sunday only to find out her baby girl was dead.
But two hours later, the tragic story had a happy ending as the woman learned her newborn was actually alive.
Toronto Police say the new mom, 20, was walking to the hospital with her mother around 6 a.m. when she suddenly went into labour near Finch Ave. W. and York Gate Blvd., just west of Jane St.
“The mom wasn’t feeling well, so her mother decided they should go to the hospital,” Const. Wendy Drummond said Monday. “On the way, she ended up giving birth on the street.”
It was a frigid -10C at the time, much colder with the windchill factored in.
Toronto EMS responded to the scene and rushed the baby to nearby Humber River Regional Hospital.
“Doctors worked on her but the baby pronounced dead soon after,” Drummond said.
Two police officers were assigned the task of guarding the newborn’s body until the coroner arrived to pick up the infant.
“Any time there’s a death of a child involved, those are the worst calls officers have to do,” Drummond said.
But this is one story the two officers will never forget.
Around 8 a.m., two hours after the mom gave birth on the street, one of the cops realized the baby wasn’t dead after all.
“The two officers were in a room with the baby,” Drummond explained. “And there was a sheet covering the child.”
“One of the officers noticed the sheet move,” she said, adding the officers subsequently checked the baby and detected a pulse.
The child is now in stable condition. The mother also remains in hospital but is expected to be OK as well.
“This is absolutely a very rare thing,” Drummond said. “These officers will likely never experience something like this again in their careers.”
Neither the officers nor the new mother are talking to the media.
 

Sal

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With the Six Degrees of Separation Theory the baby must be related to that 102 year old in China that woke up at her own funeral.

It kind of makes one ponder, maybe a body should have to rest for a while before embalming...lol
 

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It truly does make one ponder. In the old days, you would be lying at home in bed, they would wash you and dress you and that likely took a few days.

Then wasn't there a tradition of sitting at the grave side "just in case". And something about a bell tied to their finger.

We are just so smug about knowing everything but, this is two cases in two weeks. I can see in China there was likely no doctor but dead looks dead. No breath, no heartbeat...
 

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I f you are dead, how are you going to ask for a second opinion? :p

Lol, I was thinking the surviving family members would be the ones to ask. Or it could just be standard practice. Have one doctor pronounce "dead" and a few hours later a second doctor pronounce "really dead".
 

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It truly does make one ponder. In the old days, you would be lying at home in bed, they would wash you and dress you and that likely took a few days.

Then wasn't there a tradition of sitting at the grave side "just in case". And something about a bell tied to their finger.

We are just so smug about knowing everything but, this is two cases in two weeks. I can see in China there was likely no doctor but dead looks dead. No breath, no heartbeat...

In the good old days of England:

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.
They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up.

Hence the custom; “holding a wake."

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave.

When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive.
So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell.

Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be, “saved by the bell" or was "considered a dead ringer."
 

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In the good old days of England:

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.
They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up.

Hence the custom; “holding a wake."

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave.

When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive.
So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell.

Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be, “saved by the bell" or was "considered a dead ringer."
riiiiiiiiiiiight, saved by the bell...lol.... thanks
 

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Even though he's not mentioned in the article I'm sure the husband of the young mother is very grateful to the police for their alert action.
 

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Even though he's not mentioned in the article I'm sure the husband of the young mother is very grateful to the police for their alert action.
And maybe he isn't mentioned because there isn't one; a fairly common occurrence these days.
 
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Said something on the news about hypothermia slowing down heart and etc., and then they warmed up later..........whatever.
So many articles and papers on this topic of hypothermia….

Seriously makes you wonder about ‘freezing’ many patients of heart problems, etc.. etc..

“Miracle of the frozen baby (Edmonton, Alberta) ’Tuesday, 27 February, 2001, 10:28 GMT 'Frozen' baby comes back to life; Doctors in Canada are wondering how a toddler has survived despite being exposed for several hours in a bitterly cold winter night wearing only her nappy.The 13-month old girl, who has not been identified, is now acting like any normal child of her age, although she was clinically dead when her mother called paramedics on Saturday morning after finding her curled up in the snow.” ‘Hospital launches review after infant wrongly declared dead, Toronto baby born outside in sub-zero weather later found to be alive’; ‘ “When hypothermia is involved, then no one can be pronounced dead until they’re warm and dead, as opposed to being cold and dead," said Dr. Brian Goldman on Monday.; ‘Miracle Baby Thriving After Mom "Frozen" During Pregnancy’; ‘Frozen baby's miracle recovery’ “; and on and on…..

And seriously makes me wonder about ‘freezing’ any patients, heart, liver, maybe cancer…..
 
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Even though he's not mentioned in the article I'm sure the husband of the young mother is very grateful to the police for their alert action.

Oh yes, that is the single most important piece in a story about a newborn baby not dying.