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Cause other than rich government employees few can afford to retire at 55. The job situation in the rest of Canada is such that many are forced to commute to Alberta to finish out their work career.
 

JLM

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Cause other than rich government employees few can afford to retire at 55. The job situation in the rest of Canada is such that many are forced to commute to Alberta to finish out their work career.

From what I can gather from the news, Sask. or Newfy may be the place to go, Alison is screaming "poverty".
 

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From what I can gather from the news, Sask. or Newfy may be the place to go, Alison is screaming "poverty".

A self-imposed poverty of royalty structures, the flat tax, and no sales tax.

Also
"Western Canada Select traded $42.50 a barrel less than U.S. crude on Dec. 14, the most since Bloomberg began keeping records. Canadian companies are forgoing about C$2.5 billion a month because of the lower prices, according to an estimate by Houston-based investment bank PPHB Securities LP. The differential is costing the Canadian economy C$27 billion a year, Horner said. "
-BloombergBusiness Week
 

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A self-imposed poverty of royalty structures, the flat tax, and no sales tax.

Also
"Western Canada Select traded $42.50 a barrel less than U.S. crude on Dec. 14, the most since Bloomberg began keeping records. Canadian companies are forgoing about C$2.5 billion a month because of the lower prices, according to an estimate by Houston-based investment bank PPHB Securities LP. The differential is costing the Canadian economy C$27 billion a year, Horner said. "
-BloombergBusiness Week

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A self-imposed poverty of royalty structures, the flat tax, and no sales tax.

Also
"Western Canada Select traded $42.50 a barrel less than U.S. crude on Dec. 14, the most since Bloomberg began keeping records. Canadian companies are forgoing about C$2.5 billion a month because of the lower prices, according to an estimate by Houston-based investment bank PPHB Securities LP. The differential is costing the Canadian economy C$27 billion a year, Horner said. "
-BloombergBusiness Week

And the oil is landlocked- Pipelines or bust is what it comes down to.


No a duplicate post on over 55 aged workers
 

karrie

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Most people I know over 55 still choose to work. Do people have so little faith in the intelligence and wherewithal of 'the old folks' as to think the government runs their lives?

Hubby's dad is a prime example. He retired at 60, and now works three jobs by choice. He's enjoying this form of retirement more than he ever enjoyed working before, because he can afford to tell his employers to pound sand at any given moment. He sets his own hours, his own limits, and does only the jobs he wants to do. For example, he's on 'days off' from the lumber yard right now because it's winter and he doesn't want to work the winter there.

He takes home a pay cheque, pays taxes, and shows up on these stats. That doesn't mean he 'has' to work.

My dad's gearing up for his 60th birthday, and aiming for a similar retirement for sanity and health sake. With arthritis in his back and hands, it's healthier than sitting at home, where he knows he won't move enough to keep ahead of the stiffness.
 

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Hypothetical argument #1
If I were over 55, I would continue working because I am the only one on this planet who could do my job. However, that is not the case for all seniors of retirement age. Do you not think the elders are robbing youth of their rightful patrimony?
 

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Hypothetical argument #1
If I were over 55, I would continue working because I am the only one on this planet who could do my job. However, that is not the case for all seniors of retirement age. Do you not think the elders are robbing youth of their rightful patrimony?

I will be 56 in Mar. Plan is for my wife to retire earlier than I- And like you i am the only one on the planet that can do my job.
And I like staying busy. So if my health stays OK I will be working well into my 60's. Pending a large Lotto Win.
 

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I will be 56 in Mar. Plan is for my wife to retire earlier than I- And like you i am the only one on the planet that can do my job.
And I like staying busy. So if my health stays OK I will be working well into my 60's. Pending a large Lotto Win.

And, there's the key. Money is freedom; work is slavery.
 

JLM

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Hypothetical argument #1
If I were over 55, I would continue working because I am the only one on this planet who could do my job. However, that is not the case for all seniors of retirement age. Do you not think the elders are robbing youth of their rightful patrimony?

First of all no one has an automatic "right" to a job. That comes through successful competition. I doubt if there is any right or wrong answer. If you can provide a service better than anyone else then hanging in there is justified. Quite often an older person can afford to work cheaper than a younger person. However I would add that if a person is working solely because he/she is bored not working, they have a problem.
 

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First of all no one has an automatic "right" to a job. That comes through successful competition. I doubt if there is any right or wrong answer. If you can provide a service better than anyone else then hanging in there is justified. Quite often an older person can afford to work cheaper than a younger person. However I would add that if a person is working solely because he/she is bored not working, they have a problem.

Hypothetical #2
Suppose the old curmudgeon has a pension and therefore can work for less than a youth with family. Is that not like financial ethnic cleansing?
 

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Most people I know over 55 still choose to work. Do people have so little faith in the intelligence and wherewithal of 'the old folks' as to think the government runs their lives?

Hubby's dad is a prime example. He retired at 60, and now works three jobs by choice. He's enjoying this form of retirement more than he ever enjoyed working before, because he can afford to tell his employers to pound sand at any given moment. He sets his own hours, his own limits, and does only the jobs he wants to do. For example, he's on 'days off' from the lumber yard right now because it's winter and he doesn't want to work the winter there.

He takes home a pay cheque, pays taxes, and shows up on these stats. That doesn't mean he 'has' to work.

My dad's gearing up for his 60th birthday, and aiming for a similar retirement for sanity and health sake. With arthritis in his back and hands, it's healthier than sitting at home, where he knows he won't move enough to keep ahead of the stiffness.

Good for both of them, Karrie. I'll be turning 64 in a couple of months and have my own house-cleaning and house-sitting business. The cleaning gets me out and exercising and the house-sitting gives me a chance to help others - both provide me with a decent wage.