Ottawa: murder/suicide


Sal
#1
Here we go again with a mum killing her kids. They haven't released much at this time except that the dad found them.

Ottawa police are investigating what appears to be a double murder and suicide after the bodies of a woman and her two children were found in the basement of their west Ottawa home.
Police were called to the home at 25 Granite Ridge Dr. in the community of Stittsville at about 5:30 p.m. ET, according to a media release.
The father of the children found the bodies, police sources told CBC News, and was later questioned by police.
Investigators suspect the mother — identified by acquaintances as Alison Easton, though police sources say she also sometimes went by the name Alison Corchis — was responsible for the deaths of the couple's son Alex, 10, and daughter Katy, 6.


Apparent murder-suicide leaves 3 dead in Ottawa community - Ottawa - CBC News
 
Walter
+3
#2
Good thing she didn't have a gun.
 
Sal
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Good thing she didn't have a gun.

Yes because although she appeared nice she obviously was not stable.
 
Nuggler
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

Yes because although she appeared nice she obviously was not stable.


WHY would you say that ?
 
Sal
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by NugglerView Post

WHY would you say that ?

just a guess
 
EagleSmack
+3
#6
I think we must ban mothers from their children.
 
Cliffy
+3
#7
Abort parents at birth.
 
karrie
+1
#8
That's really not normal. Yeah people fall into pits of depression and kill their kids, but women typically smother, drown, gas, or poison their kids. They virtually never stab them. And yes, I get how sad it is that it happens often enough for red flags to go off over how she killed them.
 
Sal
+1
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

That's really not normal. Yeah people fall into pits of depression and kill their kids, but women typically smother, drown, gas, or poison their kids. They virtually never stab them. And yes, I get how sad it is that it happens often enough for red flags to go off over how she killed them.

It isn't normal and it would appear as though it came out of nowhere because there is little information and they usually try to give some kind of info just to calm the public and neighbours.

use of a knife usually indicates extreme rage... use of a gun, gives distance...a knife is up close and very personal so right off, it lends deep emotion to the act. I wonder if there was a note.
 
EagleSmack
+5
#10  Top Rated Post
We have to restrict mothers from being with their children... it is the only way we can be assured of safety.
 
L Gilbert
+2
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

Here we go again with a mum killing her kids. They haven't released much at this time except that the dad found them.

Ottawa police are investigating what appears to be a double murder and suicide after the bodies of a woman and her two children were found in the basement of their west Ottawa home.
Police were called to the home at 25 Granite Ridge Dr. in the community of Stittsville at about 5:30 p.m. ET, according to a media release.
The father of the children found the bodies, police sources told CBC News, and was later questioned by police.
Investigators suspect the mother — identified by acquaintances as Alison Easton, though police sources say she also sometimes went by the name Alison Corchis — was responsible for the deaths of the couple's son Alex, 10, and daughter Katy, 6.


Apparent murder-suicide leaves 3 dead in Ottawa community - Ottawa - CBC News

F'n sad.
I still think if someone's having noggin problems and need to vent by killing something, it shouldn't be kids. It should be politicians.
 
Sal
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

F'n sad.
I still think if someone's having noggin problems and need to vent by killing something, it shouldn't be kids. It should be politicians.

lol I like your thinking. We need more facts to emerge before we can even hazard a guess as to what happened and the motive behind it.
 
WLDB
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

F'n sad.
I still think if someone's having noggin problems and need to vent by killing something, it shouldn't be kids. It should be politicians.

No shortage of those in Ottawa.
 
taxslave
+5
#14
We must register all mothers immediately.
 
WLDB
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

We must register all mothers immediately.

Arent all people registered already through IDs birth certificates etc?
 
55Mercury
+2
#16
I think he means they should be licensed... and they should have a carry/conceal permit for their (omg) v a g i n a s ... and they should never transport them loaded.
Last edited by 55Mercury; Jan 16th, 2013 at 02:10 AM..Reason: omg, de he say *gasp* va gi nas??? heavens to murgatroide!!!
 
EagleSmack
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

We must register all mothers immediately.

Do you think that is enough?
 
BruSan
+2
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Do you think that is enough?

NO! Their magazines should be restricted to 7 also. Any more than 7 and you're obviously in assault mode.
 
no more drugs
#19
Has anyone wondered if antidepressants aka psychotropic drugs were being taken or if she had stopped taking them? A known sude effect of these drugs are induced suicidal and homicidal ideation. I noticed some articles stated she was depressed which leads me to wonder. Deepression has been around forever but the legal mind altering drugs have been around only for a few decades. Depression has been around forever but these violent homicidal/suicidal tragedies seem to be rampant. I saw many reporters questioning neighbors about her, but I didnt hear one ask anyone if they knew of any meds being taken
 
petros
#20
SSRIs need to be banned ASAP!
 
no more drugs
+1
#21
Petros,

Is it just my imagination or have you noticed that the media doosnt seem to ask the "MED" questions to people they interview? I read of numerous interviews where it was stated in the article that there was a history of depression yet not one journalist mentioned if they even asked anyone if anyone know of the mother having benn on meds... Of course a person doesnt have to answer but I would like to know if the question was even posed. SSRI's are a co0mmon thread in these type of killings. People need to have the facts if we are to make good decisions for ourselves and our families. These black box warnings should be on every billboard on every major street. I really think there many average people in society, who are normal, good people, parents, and community people who really have no clue about the side effects of these drugs. Its all over the net.

Petros

Please google these 4 words

" Felia Boots " "children" "antidepressants" "murder"

The courts found the SSRI's (or withdrawing from them) were the cause of her induced suicidal/homicidal ideation. Allegedly Felicia survived her own suicide attempt but sadly her children didnt survive.
 
petros
+1
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by no more drugsView Post

" Felia Boots " "children" "antidepressants" "murder"

The courts found the SSRI's (or withdrawing from them) were the cause of her induced suicidal/homicidal ideation. Allegedly Felicia survived her own suicide attempt but sadly her children didnt survive.

I'm fully aware of the horror stories in graphic detail.

My wife works in mental health. I've known alllll about SSRIs for about 15 years now.

Hundreds of thousand of lives wasted and familes destroyed, specialized teams in maternity wards that deal with nothing but babies who spend the first weeks of their live going through a living hell of SSRI withdrawl and their lives forever destroyed all in the name of profit.

Hey! There is no such thing as SSRI withdrawl, it is just discontinuation syndrome.

I'd add an LOL but there is nothing funny about it.

Keep spreading the word.
 
no more drugs
#23
Another murder suicide.. this time a 15 year old boy killed his family in New Mexico the other day... So far no reports of meds... but that doesnt mean anything.. the media doesnt seem to want to ask the question... and in so many of these horrific tragedies, the tox reprts dont get released. I just recently learned that if the klller is dead , then no chrges get laid, and if no charges get laid no reports are public (Canada and the US) and if the killer lives many times the medical reports and toxicology reports are sealed..... The public keeps being robbed of the information on these drugs ..

Look up in google

"seth Ottenbriet" antidepressant" "winnipeg"

this poor boy was a victim murder. He was killed by his friend who was suffering the side effects of an SSRI or antipsychotic ..

What I dont understand is that the side effects of these drugs are written insode the box. (homicidal ideation) ....

Do you think the majority of society does in fact know that these side effects are known by the pharmaceutical companies?

Its not a secret.. the leaflets with the warning is right inside every box..

Then theses horrific tragedies happen and many smart people write off the tragedy to "mental illness" and not to the drug that is known to cause the suicidal ideation..
 
petros
+1
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by no more drugsView Post

Another murder suicide.. this time a 15 year old boy killed his family in New Mexico the other day... So far no reports of meds... but that doesnt mean anything.. the media doesnt seem to want to ask the question... and in so many of these horrific tragedies, the tox reprts dont get released. I just recently learned that if the klller is dead , then no chrges get laid, and if no charges get laid no reports are public (Canada and the US) and if the killer lives many times the medical reports and toxicology reports are sealed..... The public keeps being robbed of the information on these drugs ..

Look up in google

"seth Ottenbriet" antidepressant" "winnipeg"

this poor boy was a victim murder. He was killed by his friend who was suffering the side effects of an SSRI or antipsychotic ..

What I dont understand is that the side effects of these drugs are written insode the box. (homicidal ideation) ....

Do you think the majority of society does in fact know that these side effects are known by the pharmaceutical companies?

Its not a secret.. the leaflets with the warning is right inside every box..

Then theses horrific tragedies happen and many smart people write off the tragedy to "mental illness" and not to the drug that is known to cause the suicidal ideation..

Pick a cable news channel, ANY cable news channel and count the Pharmaceutical ads played in just one hour and it becomes clear why the question of "meds" is never asked.
 
no more drugs
#25
Dear Petros,

You are so right about the antidepressant ads paying for the media ..

Did you that after the Newtown shooting the news channels stopped the mind altering ads until the end of Dec?

It is so frustrating remembering the media interviewing in Newtown CT.. the neighbor and the previous babysitter both told the journalist that Lanza was taking meds or had been taking meds.... the journalists changed the subject... Not one major show has discussed the known side affects of these legal mind altering drugs (suicidal and homicidal ideation ) once..

They havent taken any viewer calls that mention psycotropic drugs.. all they have done is distract the public with gun control.

And the vast majority seem to have taken the bait. Not that I condone guns at all, but guns dont have black box warnings with known side affects stating that the gun can cause suicidal homicidal ideation.
 
Walter
+1
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Pick a cable news channel, ANY cable news channel and count the Pharmaceutical ads played in just one hour and it becomes clear why the question of "meds" is never asked.

Doesn't have to be cable news.
 
no more drugs
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

That's really not normal. Yeah people fall into pits of depression and kill their kids, but women typically smother, drown, gas, or poison their kids. They virtually never stab them. And yes, I get how sad it is that it happens often enough for red flags to go off over how she killed them.


Hi Karrie,

Im not sure that the "method" or the "how's" set off any flags for me..

The flags that went off for me was hearing that allegedly she had suffered from depression.

That caused me to wonder if she was taking antidepressants or antipsychotics...

We know that these psychotropic drugs have black box warnings (which are inserted leaflets inside the box) stating side effects:
which are ... agressive and violent behavior , as well as suicidal and homicidal ideation and it also says that it can happen while taking or when withdrawing....

I would really like to know if she was taking or withdrawing from or had a change in dosage in anyone of those types of meds...

God Bless the Corshis' and Easton families
 
no more drugs
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

lol I like your thinking. We need more facts to emerge before we can even hazard a guess as to what happened and the motive behind it.

Sal,

I wish we could rely on our surroundings (media govt law enforcement etc) to bring us the facts.

Sadly, we willnot be brought anything.. No toxicology reports, and no medical history..

I have recenlty learned that if no charges are laid in cases like these the medical history and toxicolgy reports remain with file at law enforcement.

When there are charges lain in cases like this (where the perp lives) then tox reports and the medical history usually become sealed with gag orders ...

I used to wait for things to be written and I finally realized that society has to be more assertive especialy where legal mind altering prescription drugs are concerned.

On account that we already know the adverse side effects can be induced suicide and homicidal ideation, I keep wondering why people arent more worried about these drugs.. but I am starting to see that many people are waiting to be told things and when they arent told, we rest assured..... Instead we need to start asking the questions and stop waiting.
 
damngrumpy
+1
#29
This is why we should allow abortion retroactively.
 
petros
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by no more drugsView Post

Dear Petros,

You are so right about the antidepressant ads paying for the media ..

Did you that after the Newtown shooting the news channels stopped the mind altering ads until the end of Dec?

It is so frustrating remembering the media interviewing in Newtown CT.. the neighbor and the previous babysitter both told the journalist that Lanza was taking meds or had been taking meds.... the journalists changed the subject... Not one major show has discussed the known side affects of these legal mind altering drugs (suicidal and homicidal ideation ) once..

They havent taken any viewer calls that mention psycotropic drugs.. all they have done is distract the public with gun control.

And the vast majority seem to have taken the bait. Not that I condone guns at all, but guns dont have black box warnings with known side affects stating that the gun can cause suicidal homicidal ideation.

If you mention a drug type, you can peg who the manufacturer is. They have no issues about saying somebody was drunk after 24 beer and crashed into a mall full of people because saying beer doesn't put it on a company's head but if you say "so and so who killed 26 people afte rabruptly halting paxil...." you can put GSK in the spotlight.

Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Doesn't have to be cable news.

Not at all no but you'll find far more on cable news than network because cable news in cheaper to advertise on.Cheaper means more frequent and 60sec long winded ads that rattle off the 30 direct effects. Yes direct effects. Side effects is double speak like calling withdrawl discontinuation syndrome.

Quote: Originally Posted by no more drugsView Post

We know that these psychotropic drugs have black box warnings (which are inserted leaflets inside the box) stating side effects:
which are ... agressive and violent behavior , as well as suicidal and homicidal ideation and it also says that it can happen while taking or when withdrawing....

Pssssst they are direct effects not side effects.
 

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