Pope Says Gay Marriage Poses A Threat To 'Justice And Peace'

[B00Mer]

Pope Says Gay Marriage Poses A Threat To 'Justice And Peace' In World Day Of Peace 2013 Address

Pope Benedict XVI said this week that gay marriage poses a threat to "justice and peace." The 85-year-old religious leader went on to suggest that same-sex marriage is "unnatural."

According to the Associated Press, the head of the Roman Catholic Church kicked off the Christmas season on Friday with the traditional lighting of the tree in Vatican City's St. Peter's Square. On the same day, the Holy See released the Pope's message for World Day of Peace 2013.

As Gay Star News reports, the Pope, in his annual address, said that same-sex marriage is "unnatural" and "against human nature."

"There is…a need to acknowledge and promote the natural structure of marriage as the union of a man and a woman in the face of attempts to make it juridically equivalent to radically different types of union," the Pope said, according to ANSA.

"Such attempts actually harm and help to destabilize marriage, obscuring its specific nature and its indispensable role in society. These principles are not truths of faith, nor are they simply a corollary of the right to religious freedom. They are inscribed in human nature itself, accessible to reason and thus common to all humanity," he continued.

The Pope went on to suggest that support of gay marriage "constitutes an offense against the truth of the human person, with serious harm to justice and peace."

According to AP, the Pope said abortion is also a threat to peace.

This is not the first time that Pope Benedict has vocally opposed same-sex marriage.

Earlier this year, the Associated Press reported that the religious leader had denounced gay marriage as being "insidious and dangerous." Previously, he had called same-sex unions "a threat to humanity."

Source: Pope Says Gay Marriage Poses A Threat To 'Justice And Peace' In World Day Of Peace 2013 Address

 

[Niflmir]

The pope is the bigger threat to justice and peace. Perhaps we could have contained and reversed the AIDS pandemic by now if not for the perverse anti-condom stance of the Catholic church. To think that they are given tax breaks to spread such a dangerous and inhumane message.

As a married man with no plans to have children, I cannot help but feel personally offended by the pope's words. Does my marriage pose a threat to justice and peace? Is a relationship based solely on love and respect somehow destructive to the pope's vision of society? Is my own marriage harming and destabilizing the institution of marriage for others because of my steadfast refusal to have children? Heck, some gays will adopt and I will not. Don't these people deserve marriage more in the eyes of the pope than me and my wife?

As for the unnatural bit, haven't we uncovered enough evidence to show just how natural homosexuality is?

 

[petros]

The pope is the bigger threat to justice and peace. Perhaps we could have contained and reversed the AIDS pandemic by now if not for the perverse anti-condom stance of the Catholic church. To think that they are given tax breaks to spread such a dangerous and inhumane message.

Really? They may so no condom but it's not a sin to not wear a condom is it?

 

[Niflmir]

Really? They may so no condom but it's not a sin to not wear a condom is it?

When you have AIDS and you know that you have AIDS and you do not wear a condom because infecting a person is not a mortal sin while wearing a condom is... that is the bigger threat to justice and peace than two homosexuals getting to see each other in the hospital.

 

[petros]

When you have AIDS and you know that you have AIDS and you do not wear a condom because infecting a person is not a mortal sin while wearing a condom is... that is the bigger threat to justice and peace than two homosexuals getting to see each other in the hospital.

Wearing a condom isn't the sin. Sex before marriage is and why they promote abstinence.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Huh...I though the sin was the 'condom equivalent' of "casting your seed upon the ground"
sort'a thing.

Personally, not only do I have no issue with gay marriage, but I really don't understand why
it's even an issue, to be perfectly honest.

 

[lone wolf]

It poses a threat to the collection plate.

 

[captain morgan]

The pope is the bigger threat to justice and peace. Perhaps we could have contained and reversed the AIDS pandemic by now if not for the perverse anti-condom stance of the Catholic church. To think that they are given tax breaks to spread such a dangerous and inhumane message.

The Pope is somehow responsible for the AIDS epidemic because he has articulated the Church's position on contraception? I never knew that he, personally, went around and put a gun to the heads of anyone that considered using condoms.

BTW - the Church also supports the idea that pre-marital and extra-marital sex is frowned upon.... So, if your argument is that Catholics are not using condoms because the Pope demands it, how do you answer for the additional lack of discipline amongst Catholics on the pre/extra marital issue?

Does my marriage pose a threat to justice and peace? Is a relationship based solely on love and respect somehow destructive to the pope's vision of society?

Did the Pope break down your door and demand you have kids?

 

[Ron in Regina]

It poses a threat to the collection plate.

I'm assuming this might sound like a dumb question, but, "how so?"

I'm also assuming, like any other segment of the general population,
that a certain percentage are going to be religiously observant, and
will chuck their change in the plate along with everyone else as long
as the doors are open for them to participate just like everyone else.

I know I'm making many assumptions here, as I'm on the outside looking
in on the issue, but I still don't really understand why it even is an issue.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Well, what would you expect from a guy whose world view is based on a text generated by a credulous, superstitious, pre-scientific, and largely pre-literate society?

 

[gerryh]

There has already been a couple of good reply's on this but I think I'll wade in and answer the stupidity too.

The pope is the bigger threat to justice and peace. Perhaps we could have contained and reversed the AIDS pandemic by now if not for the perverse anti-condom stance of the Catholic church. To think that they are given tax breaks to spread such a dangerous and inhumane message.

The Church has a very clear stance on sexual relations and on contraception. If a Catholic follows the Catholic stance, then the chance of getting OR spreading AIDS/HIV is zero/nil/nada. The Catholic stance, when followed, is a hell of a lot better than anything the "scientific" community has come up with.

When you have AIDS and you know that you have AIDS and you do not wear a condom because infecting a person is not a mortal sin while wearing a condom is... that is the bigger threat to justice and peace than two homosexuals getting to see each other in the hospital.

Having pre or extra marital sex is also a "sin", but that sure didn't stop them. So how about you lay the spread at the feet of those that are/were truly responsible. Those that made the choice to have sex when infected without protection. The Church had nothing to do with either choice.

Huh...I though the sin was the 'condom equivalent' of "casting your seed upon the ground"
sort'a thing.

Just proves that it's not only the rank and file that like to wade into a topic when they don't have a clue.

Wearing a condom isn't the sin. Sex before marriage is and why they promote abstinence.

Kudos.

 

[coldstream]

Good for Papa.. of course he's right.. its an attack on the core structure of civilized society.. it will undermine social equity, justice and peace.

Our language has become so infused with moral relativity now that we can no longer express, certainly in political forums.. what this really is.. an assault of reason.. a grotesque absurdity.. an abomination.

We've become so 'nice' and so 'non-judgemental' that we allow a beastial presence into our homes.. those of the nation.. without realizing its intent is only to inflict mayhem on the civil order.

 

[WLDB]

The head of an organization which protects child molesters and rapists is lecturing us on justice? Thats kind of funny.

 

[gerryh]

The head of an organization which protects child molesters and rapists is lecturing us on justice? Thats kind of funny.

What's funny is that you can type complete sentences.

 

[coldstream]

The Catholic Church is a prime example of what can happen when homosexuality is downplayed as an irrelevant 'lifestyle' choice.

The strictures prohibiting homosexuality in the priesthood were ignored, in many cases.. many seminaries became saturated with homoerotic cultures.. and the results for the Church were catastrophic.

Sadly the first victims of homosexuality are those who get drawn into the dissolution of the homosexuality... but like all human conditions predicated on misery, gratification and exploitation.. it lashes out.. and seeks other victims for 'company'.

 

[Spade]

Clerical sexual abuse is not a question of homosexuality or heterosexuality. It is an issue of celibacy in the Latin Rite. And, an issue of concealment as practised by the hierarchy.

By the way, the Pope can say anything he wishes to the faithful. The faithful have every right to ignore him. And, you know...

 

[gerryh]

The Catholic Church is a prime example of what can happen when homosexuality is downplayed as an irrelevant 'lifestyle' choice.

The strictures prohibiting homosexuality in the priesthood were ignored, in many cases.. many seminaries became saturated with homoerotic cultures.. and the results for the Church were catastrophic.

Sadly the first victims of homosexuality are those who get drawn into the dissolution of the homosexuality... but like all human conditions predicated on misery, gratification and exploitation.. it lashes out.. and seeks other victims for 'company'.

You're an idiot. Homosexuality has absolutely nothing to do with pedophilia or sexual abuse. YOU are no better than the as*holes that blame the "Church" for what a few priests have done.

 

[captain morgan]

The head of an organization which protects child molesters and rapists is lecturing us on justice? Thats kind of funny.

I'm very much looking forward to reading your strong remarks that mirror the above with respect to other religions and walks of life..

So how about it? Are you ready to launch into other identifiable groups based on heinous over generalizations?

I'll help get you started... Each year, we frequently hear about:

1. Teachers having sex with students
2. Doctors having relations with patients (psychiatrists are the easiest target)
3. Those that practice polygamy (many very young girls as wives - you ought to get huge mileage outta this one)... Ohhh, you can use some practitioners of Islam in this too!
4. Domestic violence in identifiable cultural groups

So, lets hear it. Rape, statutory rape (or child molester as you prefer), child abuse all manner of breech of trust and ethics, sexual assault, battery and molestation to name a few.

Looking forward to reading you objective condemnation on this!

By the way, the Pope can say anything he wishes to the faithful. The faithful have every right to ignore him. And, you know...

I'm guessing that you're not Catholic, so what do you care?

Don't you think you'd be better served in strengthening or promoting the philosophy that you follow as opposed to sniping at others for no real gain?

 

[Dexter Sinister]

The Catholic Church is a prime example of what can happen when homosexuality is downplayed as an irrelevant 'lifestyle' choice.

Pedophilia is not homosexuality. Moving and protecting pedophiles is not downplaying homosexuality. The Catholic Church has never downplayed homosexuality. Your argument is irrelevant to the point you think you're making.

 

[damngrumpy]

First of all the church is a bigger threat than the gays or almost anyone else.
Churches preach we have all the answers and if you follow us with collective
thinking instead of your own thinking.
This is why I gave up on churches long ago they tell you what to think and how
you are going to and how much you are going to pay to have the church tell you
what you should think.
This coming from the very religion that has more sex problems than almost any
other. From a personal point of view I have little in common with the Catholic
Church, I used to go to Mass every Sunday but I haven't gone for years except
for weddings and funerals. The reason? They are stuck in the seventeenth
century. We are living in modern times and science has proved so much of the
belief system to be in error. Minor things like

1 the earth is round
2 the earth revolves around the sun
3 The Pope is not always right

The church does provide some comfort to people and I applaud them for that but
when they start telling me what to think when it comes to the issues of the day I
just move on, I am capable of thinking for myself.