Toronto- Miller - Versus Ford


Goober
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Toronto- Miller - Versus Ford
A thread where the policies - the screw ups- the whatever your opinion is regarding Miller and the shortened
(under appeal) Ford.

And yes the people in areas around and in TO have a tad more weight. Why- They are impacted by TO taxes - policies - grants from the Prov Govt.

What did they do - where did they mess up.
 
CDNBear
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#2
This sums it up nicely...

Rob Ford vs. David Miller. Left vs. right. Subways vs. Island Bridge. The Facts. « The Urban Daddy
 
SLM
#3
Oh Toronto, Toronto, Toronto!

When is some judge going give the boot to my mayor?

 
Risus
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#4
Miller wanted to give the taxpayer's money away, Ford wanted to save the taxpayer's money
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by RisusView Post

Miller wanted to give the taxpayer's money away, Ford wanted to save the taxpayer's money

Miller was an idjit- Opps - is an idiot- I am sure he has not changed - Bought off the unions -
how did that work out when they went on strike. Same as McSuinty.
 
Spade
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Miller was an idjit- Opps - is an idiot- I am sure he has not changed - Bought off the unions -
how did that work out when they went on strike. Same as McSuinty.

My gawd, Goober, you've sold your soul to the dark side!
 
Goober
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

My gawd, Goober, you've sold your soul to the dark side!

Ford was his own worst enemy- he could have prevented this but stubborn as a mule - The Judge nailed it with his sense of entitlements- - Miller- well he was a tax now and perhaps we can find out how to pay later.

Excellent commentary from the NP - The Paper from the Dark side
Typically unhelpful Doug Ford sets course for the Twilight Zone | Full Comment | National Post

After his brother Rob Ford was booted from office (probably) on Monday, Councillor Doug Ford came out swinging in defence of the mayor. An obviously dismayed Doug Ford hit the airwaves on Toronto’s talk stations, and did a passable job sticking up for his brother. I heard a few minutes of the Councillor’s efforts last night when he hit the talk radio circuit. He did an OK job, at first. Then, predictably, he went off the rails and, if you’ll forgive the mixed metaphor, set a course for the Twilight Zone, at warp factor eight.

But then he immediately veered back off into some crazy alternate universe where he and his brother are permanent victims who’ve never done anything wrong. Early in the conversation, Doug bemoaned the fact that apparently his brother is being punished for “raising money for kids.” He returned to that theme later in the conversation when he was asked by John Tory whether he felt the Municipal Conflict of Interest Act needed to be amended to give judges more discretion in determining sentences. “I think it’s in need of review, John,” Doug Ford replied, “if you can’t raise money to help underprivileged kids.”
Bzzz. Sorry. Thanks for playing, but that is not the correct answer.

Rob Ford has taken criticism for how much time he spends coaching his football team. But, contrary to History as Told by Doug Ford, no one is saying that Rob Ford should not “raise money to help underprivileged kids.” Certainly, Justice Charles Hackland never said that. Nor has anyone on council. He can, and by all means should, raise money for kids.

But what he cannot do is use city resources to do so, as he did in 2010. And he certainly cannot then vote to absolve himself of that earlier finding, which he did earlier this year. Ford could raise a bajillion dollars for charity and not one of his critics would have a leg to stand on if they complained … unless Ford violated the city’s rules, twice … which he did.

As much as Doug Ford and other allies of the mayor may like to pretend this is about charity, it really isn’t. He’s proving, yet again, that when Justice Hackland wrote that the mayor had a “stubborn sense of entitlement,” he knew what he was talking about, and that it isn’t confined to just one Ford. The Fords are entitled to their day in court, to an appeal and to make their case to the public.

But they’re not entitled to their own facts. Any suggestion that Ford got in trouble for raising money is bogus. Full stop. Maybe in some other parallel dimension, but not this one.
 
damngrumpy
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Late today I was listening to radio in the truck. it says Ford apologise for statements
about this being a left wing plot and he respects the decision of the judge. If we take
the case apart it is clear that this clown engaged in a conflict of interest.
Now it would appear that if there is a by election Ford can't run. This is a good thing he
engaged in a mockery of justice. The deliberations were about the old money he was
supposed to pay back, as he used the mayors letter head in the process.
Clearly this has nothing to do with left, right it has to do with integrity and stupidity and
it appears the mayor may have made himself a victim of both.

If they are talking about your transgression you can't sit there and vote you must recuse yourself.
He didn't and he stayed for the debate and the vote clearly a conflict of interest.
 
Goober
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Late today I was listening to radio in the truck. it says Ford apologise for statements
about this being a left wing plot and he respects the decision of the judge. If we take
the case apart it is clear that this clown engaged in a conflict of interest.
Now it would appear that if there is a by election Ford can't run. This is a good thing he
engaged in a mockery of justice. The deliberations were about the old money he was
supposed to pay back, as he used the mayors letter head in the process.
Clearly this has nothing to do with left, right it has to do with integrity and stupidity and
it appears the mayor may have made himself a victim of both.

If they are talking about your transgression you can't sit there and vote you must recuse yourself.
He didn't and he stayed for the debate and the vote clearly a conflict of interest.

He had 2 chances- but stubborn as a mule- He brought this mess upon himself. But I do like some of what he has done or tried to do in TO.
 
Spade
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Excellent commentary from the NP - The Paper from the Dark side.

The NP is the dark side's dark side.
For balance, see the Asia Times.
 
damngrumpy
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#11
Isn't it funny how we demand that our politicians be accountable and when we find a politician
who did not exercise accountability we defend him and state that we are being dictated to by
some conspiracy. Well there was no conspiracy left, right or anything else. We are witnessing
a fool playing the part of a fool and now its time to pay the piper and some people still hang
onto the concept that conflict of interest should be over looked.
 
Spade
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Isn't it funny how we demand that our politicians be accountable and when we find a politician
who did not exercise accountability we defend him and state that we are being dictated to by
some conspiracy. Well there was no conspiracy left, right or anything else. We are witnessing
a fool playing the part of a fool and now its time to pay the piper and some people still hang
onto the concept that conflict of interest should be over looked.

Well said.
 
CDNBear
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Isn't it funny how we demand that our politicians be accountable and when we find a politician
who did not exercise accountability we defend him and state that we are being dictated to by
some conspiracy.

Who said he shouldn't have been held accountable?

Quote:

Well there was no conspiracy left, right or anything else.

No, not a conspiracy, just a concerted effort, and an amount of energy not expended on politicians of the same bent.

Quote:

We are witnessing a fool playing the part of a fool and now its time to pay the piper and some people still hang
onto the concept that conflict of interest should be over looked.

Who said that?
 

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