UN group wants Europe's 'baby boxes' banned

gerryh

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SLM

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But they have drawn the attention of human rights advocates who think they are bad for the children and merely avoid dealing with the problems that lead to child abandonment.
So don't avoid dealing with the problems that lead to child abandonment then. It's not as we don't know what those issues are.

In my opinion, I'd rather hear about a dozen babies being left in these boxes than hear about one newborn found dead in a dumpster somewhere.
 

earth_as_one

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I am having difficulty seeing why people would oppose a safe anonymous way for unwanted babies to enter the adoption system. The baby boxes are supplementary to other ways mothers can give babies up for adoption.
 

gerryh

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I am having difficulty seeing why people would oppose a safe anonymous way for unwanted babies to enter the adoption system. The baby boxes are supplementary to other ways mothers can give babies up for adoption.


because abortion is the prefered method of disposing of unwanted baby's.

Government should give incentives for the mother to keep the baby


Why?
 

Ron in Regina

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Maybe ban the "Baby Boxes" and install "Baby Tubes" like they use in department stores
for money drops? They can do the pilot program in Greece and Germany can pay for it.

Baby Tubes using pnumatic air would get those babies to wherever they're going much
faster.
 

SLM

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Maybe ban the "Baby Boxes" and install "Baby Tubes" like they use in department stores
for money drops? They can do the pilot program in Greece and Germany can pay for it.

Baby Tubes using pnumatic air would get those babies to wherever they're going much
faster.

Oh my God, that made me laugh!!!

 

damngrumpy

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Here is a classic case of we will determine what is going through someones mind or we will
use the law to enforce someone to do something that we believe is natural. Well if we use
the law to enforce a natural feeling it isn't a natural feeling is it? let me explain.
First some are plain and simple against abortion, for one I am not crazy about abortion either
but it is a legal option and most of society has moved on. I think we lose more than we gain
but the law is there. And the reason its there is because we forced women to do something
everyone claimed was natural, in the past.
Remember society of a hundred years ago? Women should be at home having babies that
is natural. Well modern society came along and we found out that is not true, period.
Women should be where they are, determining their own destiny in society taking an equal
part.
Oh I know we will offer money to have mom give up her dream and have children and look
after them, money will be the incentive. Does that sound like its natural?

Then there is the law, we can wield it to force women to have babies and raise them for the
good of the state does that sound natural?

The fact is some women like men like sex, but women can become pregnant men don't so why
is the burden not also applied to men once the child is born? Some women want to have sex
without having or caring for children, and like it or not that is natural in a modern society.
You can't force a parent to be nurturing, oh the necessities of life thing applies but would you
want to be the kid who grew up at the mercy of that parent?
What is natural, reasonable or sane does not enter into reality here, Reality is we are not living
in the days of Charlie ****ens, women have choices, and there are several solutions.
one the parent can have the child and experience the life cycle process and reap its rewards.
two they can simply abort the child and move on, although I don't think for a moment its that easy
for a mother to do.
three they can give them up for adoption and wonder what became of them as many do, I know a
couple of mothers that wonder that.
four they can use the baby boxes and save a child that would stand less of a chance of survival
The entire society should examine its behavior over the last century. If it wasn't for the lifestyle we
live people wouldn't be resorting to choices. People want more toys, and business wants more profit
and we chase each other through the universe, to get more and the reason we so often do this is to
give our children a better life. you know the children who end up in a baby box, or in an abortion
clinic, or ignored at home because every one is too busy working to benefit the child they are ignoring.
Its not just mothers its the whole society that is screwed up
 

gerryh

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Maybe ban the "Baby Boxes" and install "Baby Tubes" like they use in department stores
for money drops? They can do the pilot program in Greece and Germany can pay for it.

Baby Tubes using pnumatic air would get those babies to wherever they're going much
faster.

Oh my God, that made me laugh!!!



I found none of this amusing.



I now wish I hadn't posted the thread.

Just delete it, or move it to the joke forum which is more fitting for every one elses posts.



Don't know why I bothered even asking you to expand on your thoughts or reasons. Once again you reinforce the fact that you are obviously a complete fu cking idiot with no brains or thoughts of your own.
 

earth_as_one

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Obviously abortion is an important issue for gerryH.

I appreciate humor too, especially when the subject is heavy.

I am glad gerryH raised the topic and I believe I agree with him on this topic. Baby boxes are yet another reasonable, humane choice for a woman when faced with an unwanted pregnancy. Taking away the boxes would limit a woman's possible choices.

I disagree with him regarding abortion for the same reason why I agree with him regarding baby boxes. Taking away safe doctor assisted abortions would also limit choice.

I support the right of everyone to choose... up to the point where that choice affects others.

A huge difference between myself and many who oppose abortion under all conditions is that they believe that a fetus is entitled to full human rights. I believe in a graduated increase in rights starting with what we can do with sperm and egg before conception, up until you get full rights (and responsibilities) as an adult. I support abortion as a reproductive choice under three months. From 3-6 months if the pregnancy is a health issue or the result of a crime. After 6 months the baby has the same rights as a new born. At 5 or 6 years a child can start to be be held responsible for their actions. At 16 they are fully responsible. By 19 they can use recreational drugs and make porn movies.

My point is, even people who oppose abortion, believe in a graduated system of rights and freedoms.