Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB
Good luck getting that through seeing as there are already quite a few here. They'd never let it pass. Plus many of them vote Conservative.
What do you mean "they'd never let it pass"? Who made 2 percent of the population in charge?
Timothy McVeigh and Breivik were Christians. You can say they're not "real christians" but thats how they identify. Just as many Muslims say the terrorists and suicide bombers are not "real muslims."
Just saying "I'm a Christian" doesn't make you a Christian, just like "I'm an atheist" proves nothing. What counts is what you believe, not hollow words.
McVeigh also identified as "agnostic". (source
) So which is it? Was he a Christian or agnostic? See the problem?
Breivik identified himself as a "cultural Christian" not someone who has be born-again (spiritual rebirth) through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and "Darwinian". (His manifesto takes to long to load on my work PC, but I'm pretty sure it's page 1304 or 1305 of his manifesto where he states this)
He also states in his manifesto that he has doubts about God's existence, does not pray, and that Nordic Pagan culture has just as much primacy as Europe's "Christian culture".
Doesn't sound like a Christian to this cat.
, let the chips fall where they may. Some people who have committed horrible acts are now
Christians, only because they REPENTED and BELIEVED in Jesus Christ, not because they say "I'm a Christian".
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
Wasn't it a "Christian" who tried to blow up Poland, Czechoslavakia, France, England and several other countries?
Don't even go there. Hitler's heavy involvement in the occult is very well documented. Further, under Hitler's regime Christians DIED who refused to go along with his BS when he tried to rewrite the bible to jive with his "superior race" nonsense. (source
Why would a "Christian" persecute Christians? Doesn't jive.