Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Locutus

#1Oct 20th, 2012

EDMONTON—An Edmonton judge has ruled there is enough evidence to extradite a Canadian citizen to the United States to face charges of conspiracy to kill Americans.

Sayfildin Tahir Sharif is also accused of supporting a terror group that took part in a 2009 suicide bombing in his native Iraq that killed five U.S. soldiers.

The judge has yet to rule on the evidence related to the second charge.

The Crown says intercepted phone and Internet conversations show Sharif helped jihadists contact members of a terror network as they made their way from Tunisia to Iraq to make the attack.

The judge says the recorded phone calls and emails went far beyond religious enthusiasm.

Sharif, who is 40, became a Canadian citizen after arriving in this country in 1993 and was arrested at an Edmonton apartment 19 months ago.

Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge, judge rules - thestar.com

JLM

Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus

EDMONTON—An Edmonton judge has ruled there is enough evidence to extradite a Canadian citizen to the United States to face charges of conspiracy to kill Americans.

Sayfildin Tahir Sharif is also accused of supporting a terror group that took part in a 2009 suicide bombing in his native Iraq that killed five U.S. soldiers.

The judge has yet to rule on the evidence related to the second charge.

The Crown says intercepted phone and Internet conversations show Sharif helped jihadists contact members of a terror network as they made their way from Tunisia to Iraq to make the attack.

The judge says the recorded phone calls and emails went far beyond religious enthusiasm.

Sharif, who is 40, became a Canadian citizen after arriving in this country in 1993 and was arrested at an Edmonton apartment 19 months ago.

Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge, judge rules - thestar.com

Exactly the way it should be.

damngrumpy

Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Looks pretty clear to me, we have to start acting and not just talking.
The other thing that bothers me is, how did he get in here? Did
anyone look into the kind of person he was and let him into our midst?
I think it should be incumbent on people to prove they are worthy of
being Canadians, and that means we should not have to prove they are
whack jobs they should prove they are not.
Still the only clear way to prevent immigrants from the Middle East for
at least a decade, or until this religious fervor has passed.

In Between Man

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Now extradite him IMMEDIATELY just like how the UK extradited the blind guy to the US mere hours after the extradition ruling. No appeals.

Niflmir

Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Was the conspiracy to murder committed in Canada? Then he should be tried here.

Was it committed in the US? Then why is this news?

A person should never be extradited to a country for an act not committed there. I don't know if that is what this is, but if it is not then this isn't really news.

WLDB

Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

Exactly the way it should be.

Im alright with it if it works both ways. Americans are really reluctant to extradite their own citizens to anyone. It should be both ways or not at all. If there's evidence we can always try them.

Quote: Originally Posted by Niflmir

A person should never be extradited to a country for an act not committed there.

There's that issue too.

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man

No appeals.

Appeals exist for a reason. Get rid of all of them and you guarantee innocent people will get screwed over. Not just with extraditions, but with prison sentences, trials and in the US - executions.

B00Mer

Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Sayfildin Tahir Sharif AKA ??

You ever wonder if anyone like this, or maybe Sayfildin Tahir Sharif posted here, or posts here??

I mean, we come here and people have their opinions.. some a little radical towards Jews and the Western society we so much enjoy.

I'm not saying names.. but you have to wonder in the back of your head sometimes.. members you meet here, people you meet on the street, at work, wherever, could be a terrorist sympathizer here in Canada.

I mean this guy looks pretty normal.. wouldn't think twice if I walked into a store, restaurant or business and was served by this guy here in Alberta.

Sorta makes you wonder what our government is letting into this country..

BTW, good riddance to this Muslim Terrorist nut bar and hope that Canada can strip him of his Canadian citizenship as well.

In Between Man

Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer

Sorta makes you wonder what our government is letting into this country..

We shouldn't be allowing any Muslims into Canada. They should be excluded based on the overwhelming proof that their religion is hate-filled, violent and incompatible with western values. Not all cultures are equal, and anyone who thinks so is living on another planet.

Sign the petition to stop Muslim immigration to Canada

Last edited by In Between Man; Oct 20th, 2012 at 06:23 PM..

JLM

Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man

We shouldn't be allowing any Muslims into Canada. They should be excluded based on the overwhelming proof that their religion is hate-filled, violent and incompatible with western values.

Sign the petition to stop Muslim immigration to Canada

I hear you, but I think it's probably only the worst 1% of Muslims that come to our attention. There is also many "Christians" who are real bastards!

In Between Man

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

I hear you, but I think it's probably only the worst 1% of Muslims that come to our attention. There is also many "Christians" who are real bastards!

Christians don't hijack commercial airplanes and fly them into buildings to attempt to kill as many innocent civilians as possible.

Further, don't the "moderate" Muslims have a responsibility to purge these a ssholes from their ranks? So far, they're not doing a very good job.

B00Mer

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Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

I hear you, but I think it's probably only the worst 1% of Muslims that come to our attention. There is also many "Christians" who are real bastards!

I can think of one... Terry Jones

Good news he was denied entry to Canada.. LOL

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windso...-services.html

WLDB

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Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man

We shouldn't be allowing any Muslims into Canada. They should be excluded based on the overwhelming proof that their religion is hate-filled, violent and incompatible with western values. Not all cultures are equal, and anyone who thinks so is living on another planet.

Good luck getting that through seeing as there are already quite a few here. They'd never let it pass. Plus many of them vote Conservative.

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man

Christians don't hijack commercial airplanes and fly them into buildings to attempt to kill as many innocent civilians as possible.

Timothy McVeigh and Breivik were Christians. You can say they're not "real christians" but thats how they identify. Just as many Muslims say the terrorists and suicide bombers are not "real muslims."

JLM

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man

Christians don't hijack commercial airplanes and fly them into buildings to attempt to kill as many innocent civilians as possible.

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Wasn't it a "Christian" who tried to blow up Poland, Czechoslavakia, France, England and several other countries?

Goober

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Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man

Christians don't hijack commercial airplanes and fly them into buildings to attempt to kill as many innocent civilians as possible.

Further, don't the "moderate" Muslims have a responsibility to purge these a ssholes from their ranks? So far, they're not doing a very good job.

They sure killed a huge number of Muslims in the Balkans.

taxslave

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Niflmir

Was the conspiracy to murder committed in Canada? Then he should be tried here.

Was it committed in the US? Then why is this news?

A person should never be extradited to a country for an act not committed there. I don't know if that is what this is, but if it is not then this isn't really news.

Marc Emery got shipped off to the US for non crimes not committed in the US.

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man

Christians don't hijack commercial airplanes and fly them into buildings to attempt to kill as many innocent civilians as possible.

Further, don't the "moderate" Muslims have a responsibility to purge these a ssholes from their ranks? So far, they're not doing a very good job.

But they have been known to blow up buildings for no good reason.They have also been known to murder people based on skin color in the US.

Goober

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man

We shouldn't be allowing any Muslims into Canada. They should be excluded based on the overwhelming proof that their religion is hate-filled, violent and incompatible with western values. Not all cultures are equal, and anyone who thinks so is living on another planet.

Sign the petition to stop Muslim immigration to Canada

In your opinion considering there are over 1 Billion Muslims - How many - percentage are what you refer to as good Muslims- Those that are Secular in their outlook

DaSleeper

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

No wonder you guys like Obama so much.....

He apologizes to muslims.......

You apologize for muslims......

Goober

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper

No wonder you guys like Obama so much.....

He apologizes to muslims.......

You apologize for muslims......

Am I apologizing?

In Between Man

#19

Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB

Good luck getting that through seeing as there are already quite a few here. They'd never let it pass. Plus many of them vote Conservative.

What do you mean "they'd never let it pass"? Who made 2 percent of the population in charge?

Quote:

Timothy McVeigh and Breivik were Christians. You can say they're not "real christians" but thats how they identify. Just as many Muslims say the terrorists and suicide bombers are not "real muslims."

Just saying "I'm a Christian" doesn't make you a Christian, just like "I'm an atheist" proves nothing. What counts is what you believe, not hollow words.

McVeigh also identified as "agnostic". (source) So which is it? Was he a Christian or agnostic? See the problem?

Breivik identified himself as a "cultural Christian" not someone who has be born-again (spiritual rebirth) through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and "Darwinian". (His manifesto takes to long to load on my work PC, but I'm pretty sure it's page 1304 or 1305 of his manifesto where he states this)

He also states in his manifesto that he has doubts about God's existence, does not pray, and that Nordic Pagan culture has just as much primacy as Europe's "Christian culture".

Doesn't sound like a Christian to this cat.

But, let the chips fall where they may. Some people who have committed horrible acts are now Christians, only because they REPENTED and BELIEVED in Jesus Christ, not because they say "I'm a Christian".

Son of Whom - YouTube

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

Wasn't it a "Christian" who tried to blow up Poland, Czechoslavakia, France, England and several other countries?

Don't even go there. Hitler's heavy involvement in the occult is very well documented. Further, under Hitler's regime Christians DIED who refused to go along with his BS when he tried to rewrite the bible to jive with his "superior race" nonsense. (source)

Why would a "Christian" persecute Christians? Doesn't jive.

Goober

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Goober

In your opinion considering there are over 1 Billion Muslims - How many - percentage are what you refer to as good Muslims- Those that are Secular in their outlook

Bump

In Between Man

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Goober

In your opinion considering there are over 1 Billion Muslims - How many - percentage are what you refer to as good Muslims- Those that are Secular in their outlook

There's no such thing as a "good Muslim" because there's no such thing as a "good human being".

We all deserve hell.

Quote: Originally Posted by Goober

Bump

I was gettin' to it! Relax! LOL

Goober

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man

There's no such thing as a "good Muslim" because there's no such thing as a "good human being".

We all deserve hell.

Well in my opinion your beliefs are completely opposed to what I as a Christian believe.

JLM

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man

Why would a "Christian" persecute Christians? Doesn't jive.

It happens 24/7, religion isn't the issue, it's control!

In Between Man

#24

Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Goober

Well in my opinion your beliefs are completely opposed to what I as a Christian believe.

If you think God is going to let you into heaven because you're "good", you will be surprised my friend. You're essentially trying to bribe God with your "good deeds".

Does that work for a criminal before a judge? "I know I robbed that bank, but since then I have donated to charity, was kind to my neighbor, and loved my family". Any judge will say "irrelevant! It doesn't wipe away the wrong you committed and justice demands that you be punished!".

God is the same way Goober, that's why you need his grace and mercy to be forgiven. The bible is plain, it is by faith that we are saved, NOT BY WORKS. It is a gift from God. You don't "work" for a gift. (Ephesians 2:8)

Further, if Hitler was here today, he would say "I'm a good person, I purged Germany of Jews. God should let me into heaven".

Everyone is "good" when they conveniently judge themselves by their own standard, but it's not our standard that matters, only God's. You have to be PERFECT to stand before a PERFECT and HOLY God, which you can never do. Too late. Great news: Jesus did it for us!

JLM

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Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man

If you think God is going to let you into heaven because you're "good", you will be surprised my friend. You're essentially trying to bribe God with your "good deeds".

Does that work for a criminal before a judge? "I know I robbed that bank, but since then I have donated to charity, was kind to my neighbor, and loved my family". Any judge will say "irrelevant! It doesn't wipe away the wrong you committed and justice demands that you be punished!".

While I don't think good deed can expunge bad ones I do believe they can offset them.

PoliticalNick

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man

Now extradite him IMMEDIATELY just like how the UK extradited the blind guy to the US mere hours after the extradition ruling. No appeals.

Forget all about that due process BS eh? Why bother with a trial....just hang him now. Which is all good as an attitude til they come for you, then you might have a different view of appeals, due process and constitutional rights.

In Between Man

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

While I don't think good deed can expunge bad ones I do believe they can offset them.

Okay, but even if good deeds offset your bad ones, you acknowledge that this is not the same as expunging them. Therefore, the bad deeds or sin still has to be punished! Offsetting cannot erase what's already been done!

That is why some folks are going to hell sadly, because without receiving Christ and what He did on the cross (took our punishment) they'll have to pay for their sins by themselves.

PoliticalNick

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man

Okay, but even if good deeds offset your bad ones, you acknowledge that this is not the same as expunging them. Therefore, the bad deeds or sin still has to be punished! Offsetting cannot erase what's already been done!

That is why some folks are going to hell sadly, because without receiving Christ and what He did on the cross (took our punishment) they'll have to pay for their sins by themselves.

I would imagine somebody running round telling everyone they are going to hell should be first in line to get in. Me, I don't believe in hell so not a likely candidate to wind up there.

In Between Man

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick

Forget all about that due process BS eh? Why bother with a trial....just hang him now. Which is all good as an attitude til they come for you, then you might have a different view of appeals, due process and constitutional rights.

"Realize what war is. It is brutal & ugly and there are NO RULES to the game....It's WAR, not checkers!"

No appeals for the enemies we're at war with. You got it.

Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick

Me, I don't believe in hell so not a likely candidate to wind up there.

You willing to risk all of eternity on that!

JLM

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Re: Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

Oct 20th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick

Forget all about that due process BS eh? Why bother with a trial....just hang him now. Which is all good as an attitude til they come for you, then you might have a different view of appeals, due process and constitutional rights.

It's not the due process that is the problem, it is the length of the process, stuff that should be done in two or three days often takes years, because it sits on someone's desk.

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man

Okay, but even if good deeds offset your bad ones, you acknowledge that this is not the same as expunging them. Therefore, the bad deeds or sin still has to be punished! Offsetting cannot erase what's already been done!

That is why some folks are going to hell sadly, because without receiving Christ and what He did on the cross (took our punishment) they'll have to pay for their sins by themselves.

I prefer to think in terms of restitution more than punishment. You can punish someone all you want, but it doesn't put things right.

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