Israel takes control of pro-Palestinian activist ship with Canadian aboard


B00Mer
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Israeli soldiers commandeered a vessel carrying pro-Palestinian activists destined for Gaza on Saturday, cutting off communications and steering it from international waters toward the Jewish state.

The ship was the latest in a series of activist-manned vessels challenging Israel’s blockade on the territory, imposed when the militant group Hamas seized the coastal strip in 2007.

Six Israeli naval vessels stopped the Estelle as it was about 30 nautical miles from Gaza, with masked soldiers boarding the ship and ordering it to sail to Israel’s Ashdod port, said a Victoria Strand, a spokeswoman for the activists.

The Swedish-owned, Finnish-flagged ship left Naples, Italy, on Oct. 7 with about 30 people from eight countries, including lawmakers from Norway, Sweden, Greece and Spain, as well as Israeli activists and a 79-year-old former legislator from Canada.

The Estelle’s sail marked the latest attempt to break Israel’s tight restrictions on access to Gaza. Israel, aided by Egypt, imposed a full border closure by air, land and sea after Hamas took it over and drove out forces loyal to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.

Israel eased restrictions on the territory after an Israeli raid of a Turkish-led blockade-busting flotilla in 2010 left nine activists dead and sparked international condemnation. Still, Israel continues to block sea access to Gaza and severely restricts its ability to export goods and import raw materials.

Israeli military spokeswoman Lieutenant Avital Leibovich accused the activists of staging a provocation and said the naval blockade was necessary to safeguard Israel’s security. Israel fears that unfettered access by sea would allow the Islamic militant Hamas to smuggle weapons.

“We have this blockade because there are constant smuggling attempts of weapons, munitions that eventually reach the hands of terror organizations inside Gaza,” she said.

Ms. Strand said the takeover of the Estelle by Israeli forces was a “demonstration of ruthlessness.”

The ship carried cement, basketballs and musical instruments. It was emblazoned with “Ship to Gaza” on one side, and also flew the colorful red, green, black and white Palestinian flag.

Activists say the blockade amounts to collective punishment of Gaza’s 1.6 million residents, denying them the chance to trade and travel freely. Neighbouring Egypt continues to impose restrictions at its passenger crossing with Gaza.

“It’s hard to imagine what threat one sailboat, loaded with humanitarian supplies and a small number of people, could do to” Israel’s mighty military, said Eva Manly, the wife of former Canadian parliamentarian James Manly. She said she lost contact with her 79-year-old husband early Saturday.

Israeli Defence Ministry spokesman Joshua Hantman said the goods onboard would be checked before entering Gaza through an Israeli-controlled land crossing. Hantman said militants have attempted in the past to smuggle weapons by sea.

source: Israel takes control of pro-Palestinian activist ship with Canadian aboard - The Globe and Mail

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LOL they captured darkbeaver.. Please keep him Israel, we don't want him back.

... or maybe it was Angstrom, either way.. please keep him.

oh I can see the reds now... LOL
 
captain morgan
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When will these pinheads ever learn?
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

When will these pinheads ever learn?

lol you watch O'reilly Factor too, huh
 
captain morgan
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Not for a while now
 
B00Mer
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Pinheads and Patriots.

Every dam night until Nov 6.. I am watching. This election will benefit Canada's economy as well as the USA if Romney wins.

From the Keystone pipeline to a EU style North America between Canada and the USA.
 
captain morgan
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I'll have to tune-in on that
 
The Old Medic
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Israel's very survival is at stake. Damned right they will stop ANY ship attempting to sail to Gaza.

Only the most stupid would think that they can somehow evade this.

Personally, I think the best way to handle this is to confiscate the ship, and force every person aboard to walk out of Israel!
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by The Old MedicView Post

...force every person aboard to walk out of Israel!

or swim.. just chum the waters first.. lol
 
Liberalman
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When Gaza proves itself as a peaceful nation and chases the terrorists out then the blockaid will end.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

From the Keystone pipeline to a EU style North America between Canada and the USA.

Romeny, Obama or Mickey Mouse, it's going to happen regardless.

Why do they block exports?
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by The Old MedicView Post

Israel's very survival is at stake. Damned right they will stop ANY ship attempting to sail to Gaza.

Only the most stupid would think that they can somehow evade this.

Personally, I think the best way to handle this is to confiscate the ship, and force every person aboard to walk out of Israel!

Israels survival means slavery and death to the rest of the planet. Guess what will really happen? Guess who will be responsible? Israel is a lawless state of mad pseudo religious parasitic savages. They'll reap what they've sown. Nature is unforgiving.

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LOL they captured darkbeaver.. Please keep him Israel, we don't want him back.

... or maybe it was Angstrom, either way.. please keep him.

oh I can see the reds now... LOL

The Dung will never take me alive. You and your nest mates (WE) suck big time. Get out of my country.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

The Dung will never take me alive. You and your nest mates (WE) suck big time. Get out of my country.

Which country is that again.. oh yeah, Iran.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Which country is that again.. oh yeah, Iran.

And you're from Israhell I presume.
 
In Between Man
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Which country is that again.. oh yeah, Iran.

Took the words right out of my mouth.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

The Dung will never take me alive. You and your nest mates (WE) suck big time. Get out of my country.

It's easy to get kicked out of Israel. Preach Christianity on a street corner and you'll get punted or tossed in the klink.
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

It's easy to get kicked out of Israel. Preach Christianity on a street corner and you'll get punted or tossed in the klink.

Got a link? I believe what you posted is a lie.
 
petros
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A lie huh? Why would I lie about something so serious?

Is your brain broken. Use Joogle and seacrh for anti missionary laws Israel.

They LOVE Christians....


Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

UNHCR | Refworld | Israel: Situation of Christians; anti-missionary legislation and its use in practice; activities of Yad L'Achim in relation to Christians, Jehovah's Witnesses and Messianic Jews
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Got a link? I believe what you posted is a lie.

I am not even checking the links- Petros does not lie about such things- Now I am off to bed and expect to see your apology in the morning
Good Night and God Bless.
 
In Between Man
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Still the safest place in the ME for Christians. Anti-missionary laws or not, what's the worse that can happen if you "open-air preach" in Israel? Someone might spit on you? Ha! People do that here if you preach publicly!

Further, the link you provided says that proselytizing is allowed provided it's "devoid of coercion in the form of economic or emotional incentives". (Whatever the heck that means.)
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

It's easy to get kicked out of Israel. Preach Christianity on a street corner and you'll get punted or tossed in the klink.



Wrong, and the links provided prove the lie.
 
PoliticalNick
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Wow! Some of you are just plain f*ucking stupid. The ship was in international waters. Israel has no jurisdiction to do anything. It was basically an act of war against any nation with people on board.

You guys do make me chuckle with your hypocrisy though. Ranting on about these bad arabs and those bad Muslims all the while supporting illegal wars and illegal actions by Nato, Israel, and the US. Why don't you get a set of morals and stick to them. Either its ok for.all nations to do.something or its not ok for all nations.
 
Durry
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Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNickView Post

supporting illegal wars and illegal actions by Nato,.

How can a war be illegal if its sanctioned by NATO ?
Know much ?
Muslims have yet to gain the respect of all nations. They have a long long way to go.
 
earth_as_one
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Quote: Originally Posted by The Old MedicView Post

Israel's very survival is at stake. Damned right they will stop ANY ship attempting to sail to Gaza.

Only the most stupid would think that they can somehow evade this.

Personally, I think the best way to handle this is to confiscate the ship, and force every person aboard to walk out of Israel!

Explain how a ship filled with humanitarian aid and crewed with lawmakers, peace activists and journalists threaten's "Israel's survival".

IMO the ship is essentially harmless. Its sole purpose is to raise your awareness of the Netanyahu's regime's cruel treatment of millions of fellow human beings. Success!

Now that you are aware that that the Netanyahu regime collectively.punishes millions of people in an attempt to make them suffer poverty and misery, you might also want to know the root cause which is a 60+ year ethnic cleansing war. Guess which side is winning? (Hint its the side armed with nukes)

The usual suspects will of course claim that pointing this out proves I hate Jews and Israelis. But that's simply NOT True! Their purpose is to stifle debate and insult anyone who disagrees with their viewpoint, ... and other noise.

I support anyone who non-violently struggles against injustice and oppression, including the Jewish and Israeli crew members on this ship:.. Who are there to make a point that some Israelis and Jews support freedom and justice:

...The commandos found 17 European activists aboard the ship, including three Israeli peace activists, and several crew members. The ship was towed to Ashdod after the commandos completed the operation with the help of Israeli missile ships which surrounded the Estelle before it was boarded.
Israel Hayom | Israel Navy intercepts Gaza-bound Swedish vessel


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Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

How can a war be illegal if its sanctioned by NATO ?
Know much ?
Muslims have yet to gain the respect of all nations. They have a long long way to go.

NATO does not define international law.

This list of treaties defines the law of war:
Laws of war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wiki about the Canadian on board
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James Douglas Manly (born 29 October 1932 in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan) was a New Democratic Party member of the Canadian House of Commons. He was a clergyman, factory worker and logger by career.

...He has remained active in peace and social justice issues and has engaged in Central American solidarity work on behalf of the United Church.[4] In 1997, he wrote The Wounds of Manuel Saquic : Biblical Reflections from Guatemala. Published by the United Church's publishing arm, the book explored the issues of poverty, justice, solidarity and liberation theology in Guatemala and Central America linking issues with biblical passages.[1] He also served as a member of the United Church's British Columbia task force on residential schools and recommended that the church apologize to aboriginal Canadians for its role in the institutions.[5] ...

James Manly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNickView Post

Wow! Some of you are just plain f*ucking stupid.

No nearly as stupid as your following claim makes you...

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The ship was in international waters. Israel has no jurisdiction to do anything. It was basically an act of war against any nation with people on board.

That stupidity has already been proven wrong by countless legal experts and the UN, lol.

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

Explain how a ship filled with humanitarian aid and crewed with lawmakers, peace activists and journalists threaten's "Israel's survival".

IMO the ship is essentially harmless. Its sole purpose is to raise your awareness of the Netanyahu's regime's cruel treatment of millions of fellow human beings. Success!

Now that you are aware that that the Netanyahu regime collectively.punishes millions of people, you might also want to know the root cause which is a 60+ year ethnic cleansing war. Guess which side is winning? (Hint its the side armed with nukes)

Nice bit of propaganda, lol.
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The usual suspects will of course claim that pointing this out proves I hate Jews and Israelis.

You and your buddies will claim you hate Jews and Israelis?

It would be nice to see you finally admit it.

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But that's simply NOT True!

Yes it is. It's been proven countless times.

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Their purpose is to stifle debate and insult anyone who disagrees with their viewpoint, ... and other noise.

You mean like your use of pedophilia, apologist, supporter of war crimes and crimes against humanity?

Your hypocrisy and double standards have not been a secret for some time.

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NATO does not define international law.

Neither does AI or the Red Cross.
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNickView Post

Wow! Some of you are just plain f*ucking stupid. The ship was in international waters. Israel has no jurisdiction to do anything. It was basically an act of war against any nation with people on board.

You guys do make me chuckle with your hypocrisy though. Ranting on about these bad arabs and those bad Muslims all the while supporting illegal wars and illegal actions by Nato, Israel, and the US. Why don't you get a set of morals and stick to them. Either its ok for.all nations to do.something or its not ok for all nations.

WRONG.

The Israelis have set up a perfectly legal blockade. Under International Law (which is, of course, a joke....but) a blockade is legal if the nation blockaded is involved in hostilities with the nation boarding...........after the initial outrage at the IDF boarding that resulted in a number of idiots dead, it was judged a completely legal boarding.......

BTW, Canadian soldiers have been boarding and searching ships in international waters since 1991.
 
Walter
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Two ultra left sources are very suspect in their veracity.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by In Between ManView Post

Still the safest place in the ME for Christians. Anti-missionary laws or not, what's the worse that can happen if you "open-air preach" in Israel? Someone might spit on you? Ha! People do that here if you preach publicly!

There are oodles of Christians living safer and happier in other ME countries. I've been to Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt where I had the freedom to roam around and climb on things, go camping, eat their foods. We didn't go to Israel/Palestine becaue everything is regimented, no freedom to tour at will and it was freakin' insanely expensive. Would you go see the Holyland if everywhere you went somebody was there watching and your Religion's sacred sights were fortresses with bars and turn styles and metal detectors? Not even close to that in Lebanon and Jordan at the sacred sites.
Quote: Originally Posted by In Between ManView Post

what's the worse that can happen if you "open-air preach" in Israel? Someone might spit on you? Ha! People do that here if you preach publicly!

Spitting is assault in Canada. Loogie or fist it's the same charge. You feel it's okay for Israelis or anyone for that matter to go around assaulting Christians? Why are Christians being assualted in a so-called secular nation? Do think that maybe along with spitting comes other forms of violence and terrorism against the unwanted Christians?

Quote: Originally Posted by In Between ManView Post

Further, the link you provided says that proselytizing is allowed provided it's "devoid of coercion in the form of economic or emotional incentives". (Whatever the heck that means.)

What the heck that means is if I'm talking to a Jew about Jesus and the Jew finds "that joy, joy, joy down in his heart" of Chrisitanity he has been emotionally enticed. If he wants to know more and I give him a Bible (books have monetary value) It's an economic gain.

That's FIVE YEARS in the pokey.

That sounds like something the Nazis would do.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

WRONG.

That goes without saying.

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BTW, Canadian soldiers have been boarding and searching ships in international waters since 1991.

He's going to tell you they're doing it illegally.

Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Two ultra left sources are very suspect in their veracity.

Not that it matter, neither says what he claimed.

Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

There are oodles of Christians living safer and happier in other ME countries. I've been to Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt where I had the freedom to roam around and climb on things, go camping, eat their foods. We didn't go to Israel/Palestine becaue everything is regimented, no freedom to tour at will and it was freakin' insanely expensive. Would you go see the Holyland if everywhere you went somebody was there watching and your Religion's sacred sights were fortresses with bars and turn styles and metal detectors? Not even close to that in Lebanon and Jordan at the sacred sites.

That isn't entirely Israels fault, and has been made a necessity by war factions.

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Spitting is assault in Canada. Loogie or fist it's the same charge. You feel it's okay for Israelis or anyone for that matter to go around assaulting Christians? Why are Christians being assualted in a so-called secular nation? Do think that maybe along with spitting comes other forms of violence and terrorism against the unwanted Christians?

It's not state sanctioned.

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What the heck that means is if I'm talking to a Jew about Jesus and the Jew finds "that joy, joy, joy down in his heart" of Chrisitanity he has been emotionally enticed. If he wants to know more and I give him a Bible (books have monetary value) It's an economic gain.

That's FIVE YEARS in the pokey.

BS.

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That sounds like something the Nazis would do.

You shouldn't lend EAO your account password.
 
petros
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BS?

How so?
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

How so?

Unless you can provide case law to support your claim, it's BS.

There's nothing in either link to support any of your claims.
 
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