John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

JLM

#1Sep 28th, 2012

Former Vancouver Olympics CEO denies abusing students, vows to launch lawsuit | Canada | News | National Post

Should we perhaps pay attention to what numerous students are allegating?

Locutus

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 28th, 2012

Some former students I know had a teacher of ours charged with plus much more serious s e x ual assault charges dating back to 1966 at CFB Uplands. Shame, guilt and fear were the contributing factors in the main guy launching his complaint but then others came forward. I tend to believe that group.

As far as 'just' physical contact (he kicked them??? or gave a slowpoke a light boot in the ****?) and verbal abuse, I don't see why this is just coming out now. But what do I know about the details other than a couple news reports. There must be more to this. Serious, repeated beatings or some such.

Mowich

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

Former Vancouver Olympics CEO denies abusing students, vows to launch lawsuit | Canada | News | National Post

Should we perhaps pay attention to what numerous students are allegating?

I watched an interview yesterday with a former female student who alleges Mr Furlong sexually abused her..........I have to say I have grave reservations about the veracity of those statements from this woman.

TenPenny

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 28th, 2012

Shouldn't this thread be in the members only area?

JLM

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich

I watched an interview yesterday with a former female student who alleges Mr Furlong sexually abused her..........I have to say I have grave reservations about the veracity of those statements from this woman.

That's good, I sure don't want to see a bad side to Mr. Furlong, but I sure don't want to dismiss allegations made off hand either. Usually if charges are serious they are raised right away, so these allegations are suspect, but as punishment is due on one side or the other, I think a thorough investigation is necessary.

Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny

Shouldn't this thread be in the members only area?

If you've been reading the newspaper or listening to the news I think you would conclude that it falls under the category of "news". But then, I've noticed you can be slow on several issues.

talloola

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 28th, 2012

I don't believe one word of the allegations, and I also watched his statement this morning, and can't

wait for the outcome, because I know he is totally innocent of these charges, his words verified

this for me, so time will tell the truth here.

JLM

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by talloola

I don't believe one word of the allegations, and I also watched his statement this morning, and can't

wait for the outcome, because I know he is totally innocent of these charges, his words verified

this for me, so time will tell the truth here.

He was 18 years old at the time of the alleged allegations. I, too doubt if he did anything very serious, but the school standards in those days were much different from now. Kids actually got severely strapped for telling the teacher to "take a hike". He may have kicked a kid's *** that deserved it.

shadowshiv

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 29th, 2012

I believe I read that the reporter in question had apparently asked for money for this to "quietly go away". If this indeed true, said "reporter" needs to be given the boot.

JLM

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 29th, 2012

B.C. First Nation backs RCMP investigation of Furlong - British Columbia - CBC News

Machjo

#10

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

Former Vancouver Olympics CEO denies abusing students, vows to launch lawsuit | Canada | News | National Post

Should we perhaps pay attention to what numerous students are allegating?

Of course, along with what he's saying. Let the courts decide.

JLM

#11

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo

Of course, along with what he's saying. Let the courts decide.

I definitely think there is something to these allegations, we just don't know how much.

Machjo

#12

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

I definitely think there is something to these allegations, we just don't know how much.

I'm sure there is too. I'd immagine it's extremely rare that a person, let alone a group of persons, make such claims. But presumption of innocence...

gerryh

#13

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Machjo

I'm sure there is too. I'd immagine it's extremely rare that a person, let alone a group of persons, make such claims. But presumption of innocence...

Really?

https://www.google.ca/#hl=en&sugexp=...w=1280&bih=934

CDNBear

#14

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

Really?

https://www.google.ca/#hl=en&sugexp=...w=1280&bih=934

Ya, I was trying to find something with a little more specifics. But that was good.

gerryh

#15 Top Rated Post

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

Ya, I was trying to find something with a little more specifics. But that was good.

How about this.

While only 2%-5% of abuse allegations are false; ones made in bad faith with malice aforethought, another 60% or more are unfounded, or without foundation.

We'll add this one in here too.

False abuse accusations against teachers 'on the rise' - Canada - CBC News

CDNBear

#16

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

How about this.

While only 2%-5% of abuse allegations are false; ones made in bad faith with malice aforethought, another 60% or more are unfounded, or without foundation.

Read more: False Allegations-How do you defend against false allegations of abuse

Oh I have no doubts about the validity of your position, it's sound.

It oft takes but one person to start it, and others just pile on for all manner of reasons.

SLM

#17

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

How about this.

While only 2%-5% of abuse allegations are false; ones made in bad faith with malice aforethought, another 60% or more are unfounded, or without foundation.

Read more: False Allegations-How do you defend against false allegations of abuse

We'll add this one in here too.

False abuse accusations against teachers 'on the rise' - Canada - CBC News

If you add to that the very human propensity towards 'mass hysteria', you can quickly come up large numbers of people who claim the same or similar abuses against one person. And it's counter-intuitive as well, one would usually very reasonably assume that having the numbers means there is more truth to a matter, not less.

It's one of the reasons that it is so important to have people with impeccable integrity, who do not let their emotions get carried away, be the ones who assess, investigate, and judge these matters. That's a difficult task, I couldn't do it.

gerryh

#18

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

Oh I have no doubts about the validity of your position, it's sound.

It oft takes but one person to start it, and others just pile on for all manner of reasons.

I noticed those that used the "if more than one are doing the accusing it must be true" crap, are suddenly very quiet.

Kreskin

#19

Re: John Furlong accused of abuse to students.

Sep 29th, 2012

Back in the 60's nearly every teacher was verbally or physically abusive, because the school system and law condoned it. Even if he did what they say he did it was ok back then. Par for the course. What a bs way to railroad someone.

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