Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Locutus

#1Sep 27th, 2012

A Nova Scotia teenager has won the right to remain anonymous in a court battle against a cyberbully, but the Supreme Court of Canada rejected her request for a publication ban on some details of her case.

The 17-year-old high school student, identified in court documents as A.B., and her father were asking Canada's top court to protect their identity in a court order that would force an internet company to reveal the identity of the person who created a fake Facebook account with her likeness.

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Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous, court rules - Politics - CBC News

earth_as_one

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 27th, 2012

We have some cyber bullies around here too.

B00Mer

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 27th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_one

We have some cyber bullies around here too.

oh boo hoo.. you mean not everyone agrees with your weird sense of how humanity should be governed.

I'm not sure what kind'a drugs you're on, but I think your need to share. You're tripping.

earth_as_one

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 27th, 2012

I don't see the point in cyber bullying or bullying in general.

I have no problems with anyone because they disagree with me. I have a problem with the rudeness, taunts, insults, name calling, trolling... because I think this forum should have higher standards and bad behavior is contagious (encourages bad behavior in response)

Last edited by earth_as_one; Sep 27th, 2012 at 12:45 PM..

lone wolf

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 27th, 2012

Cyber bullies twist words to fit their agendas too. Sound familiar?

EagleSmack

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 27th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_one

We have some cyber bullies around here too.

We sure do. ahem

Locutus

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 27th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_one

I think this forum should have higher standards

Perhaps you should consider putting your name forward as a Moderator or some such position.

Anyway, you cannot argue with yourself. Those that succumb to or are unwilling to back away from (what we all know will certainly amount to a CAPS match, vulgarity orgy or simple nit nattery) the obvious, are beyond assistance. Anyone with enough time on internet forums or even 5 minutes on 4Chan know what's coming down the pike. No need for the Amazing Randy to warn us eh.

That is what the famous Ignore Function is for. It's built into your control panel dontcha know.

Quite frankly, I've been around enough to realize that hand-holding, coddling and constant interference does nothing to improve anybody's standards. It becomes busybodyism, post suffocation and is just plain unwelcome by folks. They are adults and with that comes choice, common sense and wisdom. At least that is my own flavor of moderific participation. Others have theirs and that's cool too.

But when critics slag a site, my response has been known to be kinda like:

Don't let the door hit ya. If ya know what I mean Vern.

karrie

#8 Top Rated Post

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 27th, 2012

I can NOT believe that anyone would have the nerve to compare voluntarily bumping up against trolls in a forum where you are anonymous, with the creation of dummy accounts with someone's real name, that effects them in real life. Seriously, grow up and realize the difference.

CDNBear

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 27th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_one

We have some cyber bullies around here too.

You being an excellent example thereof.

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_one

I don't see the point in cyber bullying or bullying in general.

Then why do you do it?

Quote:

I have no problems with anyone because they disagree with me.

Yes you do. You call them names, almost instantly upon disagreeing with you and showing the error in your propaganda.

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I have a problem with the rudeness, taunts, insults, name calling, trolling...

And yet you do it all the time.

You are the epitome of hypocrite.

Quote:

... because I think this forum should have higher standards and bad behavior is contagious (encourages bad behavior in response)

Most of us are already aware of your faulty logic.

Quote: Originally Posted by karrie

I can NOT believe that anyone would have the nerve to compare voluntarily bumping up against trolls in a forum where you are anonymous, with the creation of dummy accounts with someone's real name, that effects them in real life. Seriously, grow up and realize the difference.

Some people are just that kind of stupid.

EagleSmack

#10

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus

Perhaps you should consider putting your name forward as a Moderator or some such position.

Dude he'd be trying to ban everyone who disagrees with him.

IdRatherBeSkiing

#11

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by karrie

i can not believe that anyone would have the nerve to compare voluntarily bumping up against trolls in a forum where you are anonymous, with the creation of dummy accounts with someone's real name, that effects them in real life. Seriously, grow up and realize the difference.

+1000

Praxius

#12

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 28th, 2012

Is it just me, or does it seem like most of the members in these forums have gotten way too wound up over the last few months / year?

Man you guys are taking this internet stuff a bit too seriously, flying off the handle over silly comments you don't agree with, getting upset over situations that don't even directly affect you, not to mention getting upset over stories of people you don't know and have no direct impact on your own lives.

sniping, tossing personal attacks/insults, very little debate....

Take a pill, hug a rainbow, toss a midget, lighten the hell up.... cripes.

If I was still smoking pot, I'd say you guys were killing my buzz..... That's right, I hope you all feel bad.

*points finger*

SHAME! *tisk tisk*

Kakato

#13

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Praxius

Is it just me, or does it seem like most of the members in these forums have gotten way too wound up over the last few months / year?

Man you guys are taking this internet stuff a bit too seriously, flying off the handle over silly comments you don't agree with, getting upset over situations that don't even directly affect you, not to mention getting upset over stories of people you don't know and have no direct impact on your own lives.

sniping, tossing personal attacks/insults, very little debate....

Take a pill, hug a rainbow, toss a midget, lighten the hell up.... cripes.

If I was still smoking pot, I'd say you guys were killing my buzz..... That's right, I hope you all feel bad.

*points finger*

SHAME! *tisk tisk*

It's not just you.
This doesn't surprise me,you cant read body language or emotions very well over the internet like you can face to face.
For example I get pm's telling me to relax and settle down and in reality I haven't got mad at anything or anyone in over ten years.

Life is too short to worry about **** you have no control over.

I just smile and wave.

lone wolf

#14

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 28th, 2012

Some folk feel so much better when they project their inadequacies onto others. They're more to be counselled than arrested

Locutus

#15

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Kakato

It's not just you.
This doesn't surprise me,you cant read body language or emotions very well over the internet like you can face to face.
For example I get pm's telling me to relax and settle down and in reality I haven't got mad at anything or anyone in over ten years.
Life is too short to worry about **** you have no control over.

I just smile and wave.

It's not just you.

Kakato

#16

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus

It's not just you.

Who then?
You? Bear? Ger?

Locutus

#17

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Kakato

Who then?
You? Bear? Ger?

You're not the only one who has received a pm regarding that issue.

Kakato

#18

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 28th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus

You're not the only one who has received a pm regarding that issue.

Like I said,I dont get mad....ever.
That's why I started posting

Some peeps take these forums more serious then they do real life.

shadowshiv

#19

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 29th, 2012

I was very glad to hear this! She deserves to keep her anonymity. It's bad enough the crap that she had to put up with with the cyber-bullying in the first place, and she shouldn't have to have her name made public because the media demands it. Her wellbeing is more important than the media's cries for "full disclosure!".

SLM

#20

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshiv

I was very glad to hear this! She deserves to keep her anonymity. It's bad enough the crap that she had to put up with with the cyber-bullying in the first place, and she shouldn't have to have her name made public because the media demands it. Her wellbeing is more important than the media's cries for "full disclosure!".

Especially when you consider that the perpetrator being under 18 (presumably) is automatically identity protected under legislation.

CDNBear

#21

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

Dude he'd be trying to ban everyone who disagrees with him.

Oh so true.

Quote: Originally Posted by Praxius

Is it just me, or does it seem like most of the members in these forums have gotten way too wound up over the last few months / year?

It's just you.

Quote:

Man you guys are taking this internet stuff a bit too seriously, flying off the handle over silly comments you don't agree with, getting upset over situations that don't even directly affect you, not to mention getting upset over stories of people you don't know and have no direct impact on your own lives.

I have no idea who you're talking about, unless you're projecting.

Quote:

sniping, tossing personal attacks/insults, very little debate....

I've said it many times, though your posts are long, they're oft empty.

Quote:

Take a pill, hug a rainbow, toss a midget, lighten the hell up.... cripes.

Projection.

Quote: Originally Posted by Kakato

It's not just you.
This doesn't surprise me,you cant read body language or emotions very well over the internet like you can face to face.
For example I get pm's telling me to relax and settle down and in reality I haven't got mad at anything or anyone in over ten years.
Life is too short to worry about **** you have no control over.

I just smile and wave.

Is that why you make up lies, post incredibly ignorant claims and otherwise cry like a bitch, hypocritically?

Quote: Originally Posted by Kakato

Who then?
You? Bear? Ger?

I was just asked to ignore your baiting.

Quote: Originally Posted by Kakato

Like I said,I dont get mad....ever.

Yes you dod, lol.

Quote:

Some peeps take these forums more serious then they do real life.

Yep, you.

Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshiv

I was very glad to hear this! She deserves to keep her anonymity. It's bad enough the crap that she had to put up with with the cyber-bullying in the first place, and she shouldn't have to have her name made public because the media demands it. Her wellbeing is more important than the media's cries for "full disclosure!".

I disagree, she should be identified.

"Right to face your accuser".

TenPenny

#22

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 29th, 2012

I would have to suggest that those who are being accused know who is accusing them, considering the case.

It does bring up an interesting legal argument. Too many cases of the police wanting to seal things so that nobody's feelings get hurt.

IdRatherBeSkiing

#23

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

I disagree, she should be identified.

"Right to face your accuser".

I suspect she would be present in court against her accuser. They will just call her A.B. I don't think her accused needs her name to be faced.

CDNBear

#24

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiing

I suspect she would be present in court against her accuser. They will just call her A.B. I don't think her accused needs her name to be faced.

The article states that her name is already known. The account created to mock her had her name, with a slightly different spelling, as well as a likeness of her.

I'm not even sure why they are attempting to hide something that is already known to the accused.

Although given what I'm sure is rather ignorant material that was posted on the fake page, I can understand the family's wish to keep their daughter distanced from it.

I'm kind of torn here. I believe in the right to face one's accuser, but again, I do understand the sentiment behind the wishes of the family.

SLM

#25

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

I disagree, she should be identified.

"Right to face your accuser".

We are either dealing with one of two things here. Criminal justice or a civil matter.

If it's a civil matter does such a right even exist?

If it's a criminal matter, the accused being under the age of 18 would automatically be barred from having their name printed in the press. Why shouldn't the victim have the same consideration?

And the court order for the news media to not refer to the victim by name has nothing to do with facing your accuser, does it? It's really just about whether the rest of us get to gossip about this girl by given name or pseudonym.

CDNBear

#26

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by SLM

We are either dealing with one of two things here. Criminal justice or a civil matter.

If it's a civil matter does such a right even exist?

If it's a criminal matter, the accused being under the age of 18 would automatically be barred from having their name printed in the press. Why shouldn't the victim have the same consideration?

And the court order for the news media to not refer to the victim by name has nothing to do with facing your accuser, does it? It's really just about whether the rest of us get to gossip about this girl by given name or pseudonym.

The lower Courts had found that they had to be identified in the Court Order against Eastlink.

In youth court, a docket is numbered to protect the identity of the accused. But the Orders must contain the accused's full identity.

The article could be making incorrect statements, based on a lack of knowledge.

Quote:

A judge agreed to A.B.'s request for a court order compelling internet service provider, Eastlink, to identify the owner of the IP address, but stayed the order until A.B. and her father agreed to identify themselves in the order. The judge also rejected their request that the defamatory details of the Facebook page remain secret. A Court of Appeal agreed with the judge's rulings.

Thursday's Supreme Court ruling overturns those lower court decisions and grants A.B. the right to pursue the case using only her initials, but it denied the request to ban details of the Facebook page.

A ban on the presses identification of the victim should have been sufficient.

But again, the article may be wrong, my position based on those facts may also be wrong.

SLM

#27

Re: Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

Sep 29th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

The lower Courts had found that they had to be identified in the Court Order against Eastlink.

In youth court, a docket is numbered to protect the identity of the accused. But the Orders must contain the accused's full identity.

The article could be making incorrect statements, based on a lack of knowledge.

A ban on the presses identification of the victim should have been sufficient.

But again, the article may be wrong, my position based on those facts may also be wrong.

Gotchya.

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