RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Goober

#1 Top Rated PostSep 24th, 2012

RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

About time- If these women disappeared in middle- high income residential areas this would have been investigated for the get go-

RCMP to announce

The RCMP are planning to Tuesday announce a “significant development” in an ongoing probe into the Highway of Tears case that has since more than two dozen women killed or go missing since the late 1960s.

Tuesday’s announcement involves the 18 of these cases that have been investigated by RCMP under the name Project E-PANA.

RCMP announced Monday they will be announcing the development in the case, and also seek assistance from British Columbians, Canadians and Americans.

Families of victims have been notified, police said but did not provide any other details on the news conference announcement issued Monday.

RCMP also said in the statement that a representative of the United States would be among the participants in Tuesday’s news conference. A family member of one of the victims will also speak to the media.

Global BC has reported that the RCMP will announce one person is responsible for one of the 18 murders along the highways of northern B.C., and that the same individual may have committed or be a suspect in murders across Canada, along the coast and into the United States – possibly as far away as Los Angeles.

B00Mer

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 24th, 2012

WOW!! I just hope the USA prosecutes this person in a state that has the death sentence.. no sense in Canada's liberal justice system giving this sick fukker free room and board till he dies.

Goober

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer

WOW!! I just hope the USA prosecutes this person in a state that has the death sentence.. no sense in Canada's liberal justice system giving this sick fukker free room and board till he dies.

Police set to link deceased man to B.C.

B00Mer

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Goober

Police set to link deceased man to B.C.

Hope he died of **** Cancer or something along those lines.. what was he a trucker.. says Canadian customs failed at keeping this ex-con out of Canada..

Poor, poor girls.. this is the last ugly mug they see before dieing. geez.

oh update, he died died in May 2006 of lung cancer.. lol

Hope it was slow and painful..

Goober

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Deceased U.S. convict linked to 3 B.C. cold cases - British Columbia - CBC News

RCMP in B.C. are asking the public to help reconstruct the movements of a U.S. convict who may be responsible for the deaths of three or more women in the B.C. Interior during the early 1970s.

Police say the DNA of American convict Bobby Jack Fowler was found on the body of Colleen MacMillen, 16, who was last seen alive hitchhiking in 1974 along Highway 97 near Lac La Hache, B.C., south of Prince George, on her way to see friends. She was found dead off a logging road 46 kilometres south of where she was last seen.

SLM

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Goober

Deceased U.S. convict linked to 3 B.C. cold cases - British Columbia - CBC News

RCMP in B.C. are asking the public to help reconstruct the movements of a U.S. convict who may be responsible for the deaths of three or more women in the B.C. Interior during the early 1970s.

Police say the DNA of American convict Bobby Jack Fowler was found on the body of Colleen MacMillen, 16, who was last seen alive hitchhiking in 1974 along Highway 97 near Lac La Hache, B.C., south of Prince George, on her way to see friends. She was found dead off a logging road 46 kilometres south of where she was last seen.

It will be fantastic if they can conclusively tie him to those cases, after all this time there needs to be some closure, not only for the families but for the nation.

This really creeps me out though.

Quote:

RCMP in B.C. say they do not believe a single serial killer is behind the 18 cases.

It as though having gone on for so long,decades, and all unsolved, it's like it's attracted them to the area. Easy pickings. Gives me shivers.

CDNBear

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Sounds like a nice neat ending to a TV crime drama.

I don't necessarily buy it.

SLM

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

Sounds like a nice neat ending to a TV crime drama.

I don't necessarily buy it.

I don't think one, or the possibility of three max, out of eighteen over the past 40 years is neat and tidy at all. I think it sounds like a long shot suspect that paid off, which does happen on occasion.

CDNBear

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by SLM

I don't think one, or the possibility of three max, out of eighteen over the past 40 years is neat and tidy at all. I think it sounds like a long shot suspect that paid off, which does happen on occasion.

Just sayin'. I see him getting pegged with more than a couple, when all is said and done.

SLM

#10

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

Just sayin'. I see him getting pegged with more than a couple, when all is said and done.

Well, maybe but, just taking it at face value, if there is one that is linked conclusively with DNA, I wouldn't be too surprised to see a couple more. From what I understand of the serial killer, they'll return to 'good hunting grounds', so to speak. I'd be a little suspicious if there was a link to all of them of course, but same 'type' of victim (age, similar look etc), same area is not too much of a stretch I don't think.

CDNBear

#11

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by SLM

Well, maybe but, just taking it at face value, if there is one that is linked conclusively with DNA, I wouldn't be too surprised to see a couple more. From what I understand of the serial killer, they'll return to 'good hunting grounds', so to speak. I'd be a little suspicious if there was a link to all of them of course, but same 'type' of victim (age, similar look etc), same area is not too much of a stretch I don't think.

Meh, the whole announcement about a forthcoming announcement, all sounds like a great big "Look at us, we're doing sumfin".

The RCMP is looking to save some face these days.

SLM

#12

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

Meh, the whole announcement about a forthcoming announcement, all sounds like a great big "Look at us, we're doing sumfin".

The RCMP is looking to save some face these days.

Are you thinking the whole thing is a fabrication? I can buy them overstating the finding, but DNA is DNA. The play up on it is the 'packaging' as far as I'm concerned. No different than the special graphics and specially composed music on any news report, lol. You got to look through that to the meat and potatoes of the whole thing.

Mind you, it would have been better had something been done before 18 women died, but to be fair there have been tons of serial killers that have gotten away with it for many, many years. And only are caught/identified through fluke or stroke of luck of the investigators.

CDNBear

#13

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by SLM

Are you thinking the whole thing is a fabrication?

Not necessarily. Or maybe not yet.

It wouldn't be the first time a law enforcement agency, under pressure, found someone to pin a lot of cold corpses on.

At least in this case they can't send an innocent man to prison.

Maybe I'm being to cynical.

SLM

#14

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

Not necessarily. Or maybe not yet.

It wouldn't be the first time a law enforcement agency, under pressure, found someone to pin a lot of cold corpses on.

At least in this case they can't send an innocent man to prison.

Maybe I'm being to cynical.

I don't necessarily think it's completely out of the question, certainly people have been 'framed' before. But we're dealing with law enforcement agencies from different jurisdictions, different nations even. The more people you need to comply with a 'conspiracy' (of any kind) means the less likelihood that it is a conspiracy in the first place. The bigger the chain, the greater the chance of weak links, lol. So I think at least the initial DNA match is probably a good one. We'll need to see how much further it actually goes though, and how far of a stretch it is should they find plausible links to more than one murdered girl.

But I've been wrong before, so who the hell knows.

JLM

#15

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by SLM

I don't necessarily think it's completely out of the question, certainly people have been 'framed' before. But we're dealing with law enforcement agencies from different jurisdictions, different nations even. The more people you need to comply with a 'conspiracy' (of any kind) means the less likelihood that it is a conspiracy in the first place. The bigger the chain, the greater the chance of weak links, lol. So I think at least the initial DNA match is probably a good one. We'll need to see how much further it actually goes though, and how far of a stretch it is should they find plausible links to more than one murdered girl.

But I've been wrong before, so who the hell knows.

We have D.N.A. evidence connected to a man who typically committed this type of crime. What more do we need? GUILTY! (I know there will always be a lawyer who says this guy assaulted her and someone else killed her) Who cares?

CDNBear

#16

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

We have D.N.A. evidence connected to a man who typically committed this type of crime. What more do we need? GUILTY! (I know there will always be a lawyer who says this guy assaulted her and someone else killed her) Who cares?

What about the guy that had consensual sex with her, before she was murdered?

JLM

#17

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

What about the guy that had consensual sex with her, before she was murdered?

If you can find someone to buy it. From all reports she was an innocent 16 year old girl, and if she was going to have consensual sex, do you really think she'd pick that guy and then after that some murderer arrives on the scene and kills her. Nah, can't buy that one, Bear. You've been reading too much Ripley!

Goober

#18

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

What about the guy that had consensual sex with her, before she was murdered?

Is that a fact?

CDNBear

#19

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

If you can find someone to buy it. From all reports she was an innocent 16 year old girl, and if she was going to have consensual sex, do you really think she'd pick that guy and then after that some murderer arrives on the scene and kills her. Nah, can't buy that one, Bear. You've been reading too much Ripley!

How do we know?

Quote: Originally Posted by Goober

Is that a fact?

It was a general hypothetical. Which is why I used "How about the guy that" Not "What if he".

SLM

#20

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

How do we know?

It was a general hypothetical. Which is why I used "How about the guy that" Not "What if he".

Wasn't that how they, erroneously as it turns out, convicted that guy in Toronto who's girlfriend died, when it turns out Bernardo did it?

Or maybe I'm thinking about something else.

earth_as_one

#21

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

cbc:
police investigators have been working to establish a 40-year timeline of Fowler's movements, but are seeking more information about his time in B.C. from the public.

"Our challenge has been determining with certainty Fowler’s history here in British Columbia," Shinkaruk said.

"We believe there are people out there who employed Fowler, worked with him, socialized with him or even waited on him while he was in British Columbia. We are asking you to think back to the 70s, 80s and 90s and your own memories of that that time period, then have a look at his photos, and please call us with any information you may have about him."

Police say Fowler worked for Happy's Roofing, a Prince George roofing company that is now out of business, in 1974.

They describe Fowler as an itinerant traveller, sometimes charming and often violent, who took odd jobs, lived in hotels, drove cheap cars, picked up hitchhikers and hung out in small-town bars.

"He believed that the vast majority of women that he met in those places not only desired to be sexually assaulted, but desired to be violently sexually assaulted," Shinkaruk said.
Deceased U.S. convict linked to 3 B.C. cold cases - British Columbia - CBC News

Bobby Jack Fowler, (June 12, 1939 - May 2006) was an American serial killer and rapist active in the United States and Canada. He died in prison of lung cancer during a 16 year sentence following a conviction for rape, kidnapping and attempted rape in Newport, Oregon, in 1996 (for an attack that took place in 1995.

He was also suspected of four local murders in Lincoln County, Oregon.

On 25 September, 2012 the the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and Lincoln County District Attorney Rob Bovett named Bobby Jack Fowler as the suspect in 20 murders.
Suspected Victims

[1]May 3, 1992, just after midnight, around 1:00 a.m. Sheila Swanson, 19 and Melissa Sanders, 17 were last seen making a call from a payphone near the Beverly Beach State Park where they had been camping[2]. Their bodies were later discovered on October 10, 1992, by hunters in a wooded area near Eddyville, Oregon.

[3] January 28, 1995 just after midnight, around 1:00 a.m. Jennifer Esson, 16 and Kara Leas, 16 are last seen walking on NW 56th Street in Newport, Oregon walking toward Highway 101 near Moolack Beach after leaving a friends house. Their strangled bodies were later discovered on February 15, 1995, by loggers in a wooded area, covered up with brush.

On June 28, 1995, Fowler is arrested following an incident which involved a woman jumping out of a Tides Inn motel in Newport, Oregon motel window with a still rope tied to her ankle. She survived the attack and reported her harrowing tale to the local police.

On January 8, 1996, Fowler is convicted of Kidnapping in the 1st Degree, Attempted Rape in the 1st Degree, Sexual Abuse in the 1st Degree, Coercion, Assault in the Fourth Degree, and Menacing. He is sentenced to 195 months (16 years, 3 months) with the possibility of parole.

On September 25, 2012 it was announced that Fowler's DNA had been confirmed linked to 3 murders[4] and could be as many as 20[5] more though some have already been ruled out. Canadian victims include mostly First Nation Canadian girls reported missing from Highway 16, a 724 KM roadway dubbed Highway of Tears[6] due to the high number of murders and disappearances of young women beginning in the 1970's: Lana Derrick, 19, Nicole Hoar, 25, Alicia Germaine, 15, Aielah Saric-Auger, 14,her body was found on 10 February 10 2006, in a ditch along Highway 16 approximately 15 kilometers East of Prince George Tamara Chipman, 22, Roxanne Thiara, 15, Ramona Wilson, 16, Delphine Nikal, 16, Cicilia Anne Nikal, Monica Ignas, 15, whose partially nude body was found in a gravel pit on April 6, 1975 strangled and Alberta Wiliams, 24 whose body found in September 1989.
Bobby Jack Fowler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CDNBear

#22

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by SLM

Wasn't that how they, erroneously as it turns out, convicted that guy in Toronto who's girlfriend died, when it turns out Bernardo did it?

Or maybe I'm thinking about something else.

I think that's the case that was going through my head.

SLM

#23

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

I think that's the case that was going through my head.

LOL! Are you scared yet?

CDNBear

#24

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by SLM

LOL! Are you scared yet?

Nope, great minds and all that, lol.

SLM

#25

Re: RCMP to announce ‘significant development’ in Highway of Tears case

Sep 25th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

Nope, great minds and all that, lol.

That's good, I like a man that doesn't scare easy, lol.

Back to the topic though, I did notice where they said the reason this individual had gone undetected by them for so long is that Canada/US did not share their database information on convicted felons. I would sincerely not be surprised to see a lot of old cold cases on both sides of the border possibly get solved. When you think of how much of our population is within driving distance of the U.S. and, prior to 911, travel was virtually unhindered.

DNA in and of itself is not always indicative of guilt of course, like the Bernardo example we somehow psychically channeled, lol, but if the individual was a stranger, or perhaps is someone with priors, it can be pretty conclusive. You still need other evidence though, even if circumstantial in nature.

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