Bankrupt AK-47 Maker Puts Hope in New Guns

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"Optimists these days learn English, pessimists learn Chinese, but realists learn how to operate an AK-47."


The Russian company that manufactures the legendary Kalashnikov assault rifle has fallen on hard times. A halt in orders from the Russian military and a flood of cheaper knockoffs have driven it into bankruptcy. But the firm hopes to revive its fortunes with new models and a global branding campaign.

Dmitry Rogozin, the deputy prime minister in charge of Russia's defense industry, likes to toss out pithy statements while traveling and making public appearances, ones meant to revive Russians' pride in their country.

Rogozin often draws on anecdotes from his time as Russia's ambassador to NATO. In Brussels, he says, he heard the following more than once from his Western colleagues: "Optimists these days learn English, pessimists learn Chinese, but realists learn how to operate an AK-47." It's the umpteenth rehashing of an ancient joke, and it wouldn't be entirely off-base to suspect Rogozin came up with the line himself. But the bon mot went over particularly well during Rogozin's visit to the Izhmash factory in the western Russian city of Izhevsk, where he intended it as balm for the souls of local workers. Indeed, employees here have an interest in the fate of the AK-47 assault rifle because behind Izhmash's harmless-sounding company name stands Russia's largest arms manufacturer -- and the birthplace of the famous Kalashnikov.

This automatic weapon, known in Russian simply as an "avtomat," even receives the highest praise from Americans, Rogozin reported. Elite US military units use it, he added, even though the US Congress generally prefers to purchase only American-made weapons. Private collectors have also come to embrace this assault rifle, he continued, noting that US sales of the weapon jumped by 50 percent last year. He also mentioned how Afghanistan is still asking Moscow for Kalashnikovs "even though they have 140,000 well-armed NATO soldiers within their borders."


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shadowshiv

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Wow! With the amounts of AK-47s that I've seen in the news, or carried by various military/rebel personnel, I am surprised that they are going bankrupt!
 

shadowshiv

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Hows that even possible, someone fu&ked up on that patten.

In some of the countries where the knockoffs are made/used, I don't think they care about someone else's patents. Heck, how many times do you see spam regarding cheap knockoffs for shoes, purses, viagra, etc?8O
 

MapleDog

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About the AK47,i've heard its the only assault rifle that does not jam.
I'm saying this cause the weapon the gu used in montreal tuesday night,is allegedly an AK 47,and they said the weapon jammed,either it is an AK,or a cheaper imitation.
 

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About the AK47,i've heard its the only assault rifle that does not jam.
I'm saying this cause the weapon the gu used in montreal tuesday night,is allegedly an AK 47,and they said the weapon jammed,either it is an AK,or a cheaper imitation.


AKs are famous for being dependable........as are most modern military rifles. The reputation for dependability was earned when military autos were not so apt to work.

The AK has lousy sights, lousy balance, lousy accuracy, and lousy ergonomics. BUT it works, every time.

The rifle used in Montreal Tuesday night was NOT an AK, but a CZ 58. Different animal altogether, despite their similarity in appearance.

Which market, the legal one,or the black market?

Any and all.....
 

MapleDog

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AKs are famous for being dependable........as are most modern military rifles. The reputation for dependability was earned when military autos were not so apt to work.

The AK has lousy sights, lousy balance, lousy accuracy, and lousy ergonomics. BUT it works, every time.

The rifle used in Montreal Tuesday night was NOT an AK, but a CZ 58. Different animal altogether, despite their similarity in appearance.
Thats what i thought,but as usual the "journalists/reporters" still say AK47,when someone doesn't know what type of weapon was used,he should just say "gun"


Remind me about something funny i've heard that was said during the first gulf war in 1991,when talking about B52s bombers,the news chick apparently said "Why don't the land on carriers" :lol:
 

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AKs are famous for being dependable........as are most modern military rifles. The reputation for dependability was earned when military autos were not so apt to work.

The AK has lousy sights, lousy balance, lousy accuracy, and lousy ergonomics. BUT it works, every time.

The rifle used in Montreal Tuesday night was NOT an AK, but a CZ 58. Different animal altogether, despite their similarity in appearance.



Any and all.....

I know the sten gun was not the same quality as the AK but it was very cheap and with the 32 round clip you could put a lot
of bullets somewhere near the target. We used to fire them at the range until they were absolutely hot and they still kept going
 

relic

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And hey would keep going if you dropped them,as a buddy of my brother found out in Egypt,when he dropprd one in an apc.