Scarborough shootings: Two killed, 19 injured


Locutus
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A teenage girl and a man in his early 20s are dead and 19 people wounded after bullets flew at a large barbecue party in Scarborough.

“This is the worst incident of gun violence anywhere in North America. It’s very shocking. A lot of innocent people were injured tonight,” Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair said at the scene, his voice wavering.

“Tonight’s event is unprecedented. It’s going to be shocking to everyone in Toronto, to everyone in Canada.”

A suspect was hospitalized and is in police custody, Blair said, addressing the media early Tuesday morning. Police are still looking for other suspects.

Hundreds of young people were outdoors at the barbecue outside 193 Danzig St. when gunfire broke out just before 11 p.m. Monday.

Police say the 21 victims, one a toddler under 3, were rushed to emergency rooms across the city.

“Some of them are very young. Very young,” said Tony Iagallo, an EMS spokesperson.

A teenage girl and a man believed to be in his early 20s, were pronounced dead at the scene, Blair said.

Other victims suffered injuries from trampling and were treated in a paramedic bus.

Witnesses in the residential neighbourhood say they heard six or more shots coming from the barbecue on Danzig St., in the Morningside Ave. and Lawrence Ave. E. area

Ambulances, police cruisers and medical buses lined the street as hundreds of people sat outside their homes. Police dogs prowled the area as officers searched for suspects.

Police requested a paramedic bus to hold the less seriously injured victims.

A handgun was recovered nearby.

Claudia Wilson said her 20-year-old daughter was at the barbecue when the shooting took place.

“Suddenly she was dodging bullets over there,” said Wilson, her daughter crying nearby.

“They were all in one place and all of a sudden the shots were fired, no one knows where they came from.”

One woman reportedly hit by a bullet was carrying a baby.

A woman said her 17-year-old niece was shot in the arm and was in one of the medic buses.

Others in the neighbourhood were shocked and frightened by the chaos.

“I came out and there were bodies and stretchers everywhere,” said one woman on the scene.

Victims range in age from infancy to mid-20s, police said.

“This is senseless. This is ridiculous,” said Sharon Reynolds, who has lived her whole life on the street.

Leighton Robinson said his nephew’s girlfriend, in her early 20s, was shot in the arm.

He said he got a call from his niece and she told him about the injury.

She said, “Uncle Leighton, what’s going on?”

Robinson said he’s lived in Toronto since 1970 and thinks things are getting worse in the city.

“Basically it sickens me. . . . It never used to be this way,” he said. “The new players in the game are playing it wrong.”

Renald Mars heard loud bangs, perhaps six or seven, as he was riding his bike past the area. Then he saw police cruisers roaring by.

“I saw that and thought, ‘Wow, this is serious.’ ”

Some people at the scene expressed anger at what they called the slow response time by the police.

There were six shootings in the 43 Division before Monday’s gunfire, Blair said. These are the city’s 27th and 28th homicides of the year.

This is the second time innocent bystanders were wounded in crossfire in recent weeks. On June 2, several bystanders were hit by rogue bullets after a gunman opened fire in a crowded food court at Toronto's Eaton Centre. One man was killed in that incident and another died of his injuries days later.


Scarborough shootings: Two killed, 19 injured as bullets fly at barbecue - thestar.com
 
relic
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Somebody didn't get breast fed long enough,didn't get medals for participation,didn't get their own parking space.There are lots of valid reasons for this kind of behaviour,there should be a long period of evaluation of the alleged perp before the authorities do anything rash.
 
captain morgan
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Maybe the perp ought to at least get some recognition for the amazing restraint they displayed by not doing this years sooner and more often.

It takes an awful lot of fortitude and character to bounce back from not getting all those participation medals
 
taxslave
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I wish I knew how to write in purple. But I'm going to be the first any way.

Its all Harpers fault.
There now we got that out of the way.
 
captain morgan
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Thanks for providing that service to all of us at CC. Now we know the true reason behind the shootings
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

I wish I knew how to write in purple. But I'm going to be the first any way.

Its all Harpers fault.
There now we got that out of the way.

Happened in Ontario so not Harper's Fault but Harris's.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Happened in Ontario so not Harper's Fault but Harris's.

No reason it can't be both.
 
Cabbagesandking
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I would say that Ford takes more of the blame. His cuts to policing and services to vulnerable communities did not help. Different name; same ideology.

It does, of course, go much deeper than Harper's encouragement of a gun culture and Ford's stupidity. It goes to 30+ plus years of tac cuts and service reductions. It foes to 30+ years of Right wing ideology that has seen the growth of poverty and the end of work for many.

Gangs and violence are spawned in that vast underclass where hopelessness has become endemic. That is not a creation of Harper and Harris but of the whole ideology that begat them. We are slowly returning to a nineteenth century social division.
 
shadowshiv
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I wonder if this will reopen the "handgun ammo ban" discussion? I doubt the ammo was gotten legally, and I don't think that a ban would have made any difference at all to be honest.
 
B00Mer
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Every day occurrence in the USA, not even news.. makes the news here in Canada because of it's rarity. Thank God we live in Canada.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by CabbagesandkingView Post

I would say that Ford takes more of the blame. His cuts to policing and services to vulnerable communities did not help. Different name; same ideology.

It does, of course, go much deeper than Harper's encouragement of a gun culture and Ford's stupidity. It goes to 30+ plus years of tac cuts and service reductions. It foes to 30+ years of Right wing ideology that has seen the growth of poverty and the end of work for many.

Gangs and violence are spawned in that vast underclass where hopelessness has become endemic. That is not a creation of Harper and Harris but of the whole ideology that begat them. We are slowly returning to a nineteenth century social division.

It's sad when sarcasm turns to reality.
 
skookumchuck
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It is not only good but PC to accuse the larger numbers of hunters and sport shooters that are, by known percentage, to nearly never be involved in incidents of this nature, of being a danger to society given that they are not protected by their skin color or "culture".
It is obviously the fault of "Harper's gun culture".
No reason at all to screen immigrants.

If socialism is the answer why are socialists terrified of firearms?

No story here, move along folks.
 
bill barilko
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Jamaicans and people with tattoos on their necks-you can bet on it.
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Every day occurrence in the USA, not even news.. makes the news here in Canada because of it's rarity. Thank God we live in Canada.

Still makes the news and it's not an everyday occurrence.
At least 17 injured in shooting at downtown Tuscaloosa bar | al.com (external - login to view)
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by CabbagesandkingView Post

I would say that Ford takes more of the blame. His cuts to policing and services to vulnerable communities did not help. Different name; same ideology.

It does, of course, go much deeper than Harper's encouragement of a gun culture and Ford's stupidity. It goes to 30+ plus years of tac cuts and service reductions. It foes to 30+ years of Right wing ideology that has seen the growth of poverty and the end of work for many.

Gangs and violence are spawned in that vast underclass where hopelessness has become endemic. That is not a creation of Harper and Harris but of the whole ideology that begat them. We are slowly returning to a nineteenth century social division.

Oh it goes further back than all that...

All the way to several flawed immigration policies c/o PET.

Enjoy.
 
karrie
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

A teenage girl and a man in his early 20s are dead and 19 people wounded after bullets flew at a large barbecue party in Scarborough.

“This is the worst incident of gun violence anywhere in North America. It’s very shocking. A lot of innocent people were injured tonight,” Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair said at the scene, his voice wavering.

Uhm, really?

How soon we forget hey?

From Wiki in regards to the Montreal Massacre....

"After claiming that he was "fighting feminism", he shot all nine women in the room, killing six. He then moved through corridors, the cafeteria, and another classroom, specifically targeting women to shoot. Overall, he killed fourteen women and injured ten other women and four men in just under twenty minutes before turning the gun on himself.[1] (external - login to view)[2] (external - login to view)"

And that's just one horrific incident that pops into my head.

Of course, I'm sure the incident you see first hand will always be the worst, but geez.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

Uhm, really?

How soon we forget hey?

From Wiki in regards to the Montreal Massacre....

"After claiming that he was "fighting feminism", he shot all nine women in the room, killing six. He then moved through corridors, the cafeteria, and another classroom, specifically targeting women to shoot. Overall, he killed fourteen women and injured ten other women and four men in just under twenty minutes before turning the gun on himself.[1] (external - login to view)[2] (external - login to view)"

And that's just one horrific incident that pops into my head.

Of course, I'm sure the incident you see first hand will always be the worst, but geez.

You'll have to excuse Blair. He's a Millerite idiot.

And only goes to show how far over his head he really is.
Last edited by CDNBear; Jul 17th, 2012 at 04:00 PM..
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Still makes the news and it's not an everyday occurrence.
At least 17 injured in shooting at downtown Tuscaloosa bar | al.com (external - login to view)

Yes, yes... it makes the news... but it doesn't really make the news.. and yes, it's an every day occurrence in the USA Walter.

19 people killed in Toronto, it will be front page.. on CBC and every other channel..

Now for the USA.. just Google it.. (example below..)

https://www.google.ca/search?q=road+...ient=firefox-a (external - login to view)

When I lived in Texas, hearing about someone getting shot.. it just wasn't as sensationalized as here in Canada. Just another day..
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

19 people killed in Toronto, it will be front page.. on CBC and every other channel.

Correction, 19 wounded, 2 killed.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Correction, 19 wounded, 2 killed.

ooops, there's going to be some pissed of survivors.. finding out their dead already.

Guess I'm dyslectic today..
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Every day occurrence in the USA, not even news.. makes the news here in Canada because of it's rarity. Thank God we live in Canada.

This made news in the USA too. This scale of shooting does not happen everyday anywhere in North America.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

This made news in the USA too. This scale of shooting does not happen everyday anywhere in North America.

OH??

The following are the main mass shootings that have occurred in the United States since 1999.

-- In April 1999, two teenage schoolboys shot and killed 12 schoolmates and a teacher at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, before killing themselves.

-- In July 1999, a stock exchange trader in Atlanta, Georgia, killed 12 people including his wife and two children before taking his own life.

-- In September 1999, a gunman opened fire at a prayer service in Fort Worth, Texas, killing six people before committing suicide.

-- In October 2002, a series of sniper-style shootings occurred in Washington DC, leaving 10 dead.

-- In August 2003 in Chicago, a laid-off worker shot and killed six of his former workmates.

-- In November 2004 in Birchwood, Wisconsin, a hunter killed six other hunters and wounded two others after an argument with them.

-- In March 2005, a man opened fire at a church service in Brookfield, Wisconsin, killing seven people.

-- In October 2006, a truck driver killed five schoolgirls and seriously wounded six others in a school in Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania before taking his own life.

-- In April 2007, a student shot and killed 32 people and wounded 15 others at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia, before shooting himself, making it the deadliest mass shooting in the United States after 2000.

-- In December 2007, a 20-year-old man killed nine people and injured five others in a shopping center in Omaha, Nebraska.

-- In December 2007, a woman and her boyfriend shot dead six members of her family on Christmas Eve in Carnation, Washington.

-- In February 2008, a shooter who is still at large tied up and shot six women at a suburban clothing store in Chicago, leaving five of them dead and the remaining one injured.

-- In February 2008, a man opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, Illinois, killing five students and wounding 16 others before laying down his weapon and surrendering.

-- In September 2008, a mentally ill man who was released from jail one month earlier shot eight people in Alger, Washington, leaving six of them dead and the rest two wounded.

-- In December 2008, a man dressed in a Santa Claus suit opened fire at a family Christmas party in Covina, California, then set fire on the house and killed himself. Police later found nine people dead in the debris of the house.

-- In March 2009, a 28-year-old laid-off worker opened fire while driving a car through several towns in Alabama, killing 10 people.

-- In March 2009, a heavily-armed gunman shot dead eight people, many of them elderly and sick people, in a private-owned nursing home in North Carolina.

-- In March 2009, six people were shot dead in a high-grade apartment building in Santa Clara, California.

-- In April 2009, a man shot dead 13 people at a civic center in Binghamton, New York.

-- In November 2009, U.S. army psychologist Major Nidal Hasan opened fire at a military base in Fort Hood, Texas, leaving 13 dead and 42 others wounded.

-- In January 2011, a gunman opened fire at a public gathering outside a grocery in Tuscon, Arizona, killing six people including a nine-year-old girl and wounding at least 12 others. Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was severely injured with a gunshot to the head.


This doesn't include the daily shootings on the streets of Philadelphia, Chicago, DC, Houston, Miami, and so on, that are drug related, robbery, cold blooded murder or just random.

...and how did my original post to this get so twisted around that members are defending the US crime rate, rather than being greatful we live in Canada where this is not such a common occurrence.

 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

...and how did my original post to this get so twisted around that members are defending the US crime rate, rather than being greatful we live in Canada where this is not such a common occurrence.

Your post said these incidents didn't even make the news...if that was the fact you wouldn't be able to google these events.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Your post said these incidents didn't even make the news...if that was the fact you wouldn't be able to google these events.

geeez Walter, are you board.. it was clearly an analogy to the fact that in the U.S. shootings are so frequent that they are generally unimportant.

Look I am not bashing the U.S., I lived in Texas for 15 years as well Long Beach, CA for 2 years and a few other places. I was a truck driver and a cab driver for a year in LA.

I look back at those days as an education.. and good reason why I am back living in Canada.
 
JLM
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Time to bring back the rope!
 
B00Mer
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Walter, The USA - IS - the best country in the world to live.... *




* ... if you're Rich, White and Republican.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Walter, The USA - IS - the best country in the world to live.... *




If you are a U.S. citizen, no doubt it is!
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

If you are a U.S. citizen, no doubt it is!

huh?

...are you saying you would prefer to be living in the USA vs Canada - if you were a US Citizen?
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

huh?

...are you saying you would prefer to be living in the USA vs Canada - if you were a US Citizen?

More than likely, probably having been born and raised there.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

More than likely, probably having been born and raised there.

Aaagh! yeah, suppose so.. but I think if people wanted to live in the sun, there are better places to immigrate to that the USA.

There are plenty of countries that have British Common Law and speak English.. where you can "buy" a passport, a reference used for Economic Citizenship.

St. Kitts Economic Citizenship (external - login to view)

Belize- Immigration and Permanent Residency Requirements (external - login to view)

Belize is my favorite, I like the Spanish culture, food and people.
 
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