We need bear baiting: Province

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We need bear baiting: Province

George Pollard has lost count of the bears he’s had a hand in killing over the decades — with a personal record of 13 bruins in one day, it’s safe to say his gun could easily boast hundreds of notches.

Now 86-years-old, the retired Alaskan hunting guide is still lamenting the one that got away: Not an animal, but a style of killing that Pollard fought to have banned in his home state.

“It’s lazy and unethical — it’s not hunting at all,” Pollard told the Sun on Wednesday.

He’s talking about bear baiting, and in 2004, Pollard spearheaded a losing battle that resulted in a state-wide vote on the controversial hunting technique.

With nearly 90% of the population in Alaska considered pro-hunting, the practice of luring bears with pungent food and then shooting them as they eat is well known, if not always well liked — even by hunters.

In Alberta, it was almost unknown.

Though legal here, bear baiting is barely heard of outside of hunting circles — or it was, until Vancouver Canucks forward David Booth started bragging this month about killing an Alberta bruin.

“In Alberta trying to kill a few bruins. #unleashthefury” and “Just killed a Chara sized bruin! 7ft black bear - 21in skull” were the tweets that triggered raised eyebrows and a war of words in this province.

Booth’s fame spread the boasting far beyond the hunting community, and when Booth thumbed his nose at disgusted critics by posting a full video of the unsportsmanlike kill, the debate exploded.

It wasn’t the hunting, but the method that most objected to.

People called out the $4.5-million NHL star for taking part in a killing condemned by many as a cowardly, and lazy style of hunting — if sitting in a tree really counts as hunting.

Outlawed in B.C. and banned in 18 of the 26 American states where bear hunting is allowed, bear baiting upsets many because the bear is distracted by an unnatural food supply and then ambushed.

Opponents aren’t just left-wing animal rights activists, as some in the hunting community like to pretend.

Like Pollard, many hunters loathe the practice, too.

“I would hope it’s a matter of time until it’s stopped everywhere,” said Pollard, who scoffs at the notion bear baiting is the only way to ensure a clean kill.

“Wait until the berries are ripe — that’s a pretty good way to hunt them.”

Those who support the practice, which in Booth’s case meant waiting near a bait of oats, molassess and meat, say it ensures sows and cubs aren’t killed because the shooter gets a good look first.

Those who call it unsporting say good hunters do that anyway — and it teaches bears to depend on humans for food while robbing real sportsmen of animals that no longer roam and forage.

The biggest issue though, among hunters and non-hunters, is the fish-in-a-barrel outcome.

“To me shooting any animal over a bait is unethical, at least in a sporting context,” wrote one hunter on an Alberta outdoor forum, where many have debated the issue.

“It gives an unfair advantage to the hunter and assuming the hunter has some minimum level of skill the outcome is somewhat certain.”

In Alberta at least, there’s little the new awareness will do to change the current rules, despite calls from angry citizens outraged over Booth’s smug bragging.

Dave Ealy, spokesman for Alberta Sustainable Resource Development, says with 40,000 black bears in Alberta, all styles of hunting are needed to keep the bear population under control.

“Our main concern is that the kill is made as humanely as possible,” said Ealy. “As to what’s fair, we have hunters out there with greater ability than others.”

Meanwhile, in Michigan, Booth’s family is questioning how fair the attacks on David have been, given that his hunt was perfectly legal.

“No one is able to decide whether it’s right or not, and provinces and states have been debating this for years,” said Michael Booth, David’s father.

David himself is laying low, not falling for the bait of defending his actions in public.

Booth’s dad says his NHL star son shouldn’t have to. “What he was doing was legal — what’s happened since seems not quite fair. It shouldn’t be a story.”

It wouldn’t be, if Booth wasn’t so proud of his questionable kill.

We need bear baiting: Province
 

lone wolf

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Baiting still isn't as bad as releasing a deer to run the gauntlet between hunting stations.

We have bear-baiting around here. It's called the night before Garbage Day
 

talloola

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whatever david booth does in his spare time is his own business, and if he chooses to hunt, and does it

legally that is also his own business, BUT

he represents the vancouver canucks, and the canucks represent b.c., and in b.c. bear baiting is illegal

and according to the hundreds of calls into team 1040, the majority are frowning on booth's tactics.

To make a decision to post a picture first, then two weeks later post a video of himself standing over

the dead bear, and also apparantly he felt very proud and satisfied over what he did.

He should have kept his hunting trip quiet and personal, but instead he is advertising it all over

his province he plays hockey in, how dumb can he be, can't he figure out that is not a very wise

thing to do if he wants to stay popular with his fans.

If he did this as a regular person, no one would have even noticed, BUT they do notice when he is

posting this information as a VANCOUVER CANUCK, as he is using this position to get the attention, and

that isn't pleasing the canuck organization, as they have to answer many questions, and many will put

pressure on the canucks to 'do something' about this situation.

Dumb David
 
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skookumchuck

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Once upon a time when i made part of my living as an outfitter, the Black Bear (ursus rectumus) was often the bane of our existence, particularly so when aided and abetted by the Parks Canada staff who had to take too much chit when the ARA types found out that they were offing the worst offenders in park campsites.
To make the ARA bunch happy they said.....we will capture them and fly them further away (BS) and thus solve the problem. Suddenly our camps which were often within 20-30 miles of a Park boundary, were inundated with Bears, pretty colored they were, with a motled mess of green spray paint, orange, and red. Gosh we thought, Ma nature is joking......

Does anybody think the Wardens could not have foreseen what would happen when same bears were released near our camps? Now we would be busted big time and lose our licenses if we shot a Bear out of season, even if it had for the third time destroyed 700 bucks worth of tent and other equipment.
We could not even offer them to our clients who understandably considered a painted Bear not much of a trophy. We had to be creative, SSandshutup.

That being said, Black Bear hunting, spot and stalk, is the only sportsmanlike way to go.
 

talloola

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Once upon a time when i made part of my living as an outfitter, the Black Bear (ursus rectumus) was often the bane of our existence, particularly so when aided and abetted by the Parks Canada staff who had to take too much chit when the ARA types found out that they were offing the worst offenders in park campsites.
To make the ARA bunch happy they said.....we will capture them and fly them further away (BS) and thus solve the problem. Suddenly our camps which were often within 20-30 miles of a Park boundary, were inundated with Bears, pretty colored they were, with a motled mess of green spray paint, orange, and red. Gosh we thought, Ma nature is joking......

Does anybody think the Wardens could not have foreseen what would happen when same bears were released near our camps? Now we would be busted big time and lose our licenses if we shot a Bear out of season, even if it had for the third time destroyed 700 bucks worth of tent and other equipment.
We could not even offer them to our clients who understandably considered a painted Bear not much of a trophy. We had to be creative, SSandshutup.

That being said, Black Bear hunting, spot and stalk, is the only sportsmanlike way to go.

how can anyone use the word 'hunting', when they climb up into a tree stand, within 25 yards from
the barrel full of bait for the bear, be ready to shoot when the bear is having a nice meal out of
the barrel. 'HUNTING'? really?

its just target shooting, and the target isn't even moving, no different than if they sat in a tree
stand and shot someone's cow grazing in a field, and actually the cow would be moving more than
the bear was.

david booth should have kept his activity to himself, or at least not bring the story complete with video
into b.c. and flash it around, what did he expect, everyone to applaud as though he had just scored
a goal, come on david, clue in.
 

Praxius

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^ Bear baiting.