Missing women ‘just hookers’ to cops

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Missing women ‘just hookers’ to cops, 911 operator tells Pickton inquiry

VANCOUVER — A former 911 operator alleges uniformed superiors repeatedly brushed off calls reporting the disappearance of sex trade workers from Vancouver’s Downtown Eastside in the late 1990s, while a civilian clerk agrees there was prejudice across the police department but has denied being dismissive herself.

Rae-Lynn Dicks says she was repeatedly told by her sergeants they weren’t going to spend “valuable time and money” looking for prostitutes when she worked for the Vancouver Police Department’s call centre.

She described an atmosphere of rampant bias that considered the women to be “just hookers,” which was corroborated by Sandy Cameron, who worked for the missing women’s unit for 22 years.

Dicks said if callers had no fixed address for the person they were reporting missing, the file could get blown off. Cameron added there was an unwritten policy of no body, no homicide.

911 operators were often the first line of contact for the public, later being routed to Cameron.

"They didn’t care. It was systemic. It didn’t matter. They were marginalized women, most of them were aboriginal,” Dicks told the missing women inquiry on Monday.

“As far as I was getting from the department, I was told to ’stop being a bleeding heart,’ ‘grow up, these people are scum of the Earth.“’

The pair both took calls from family members of women who were vanishing at the same time Robert Pickton was hunting sex workers in the impoverished neighbourhood. The inquiry is examining why the serial killer wasn’t caught sooner.

Dicks said officers would mock prostitutes around the office, and Cameron agreed she heard statements like “a hooker can’t report getting raped,” suggesting instead the rape report was made because the woman wasn’t paid for sex.

“To name a name to it, I couldn’t do it, but it was heard regularly by staff throughout the building,” Cameron said.

But Cameron denied making similarly callous remarks herself when speaking to family members of missing women, although several family members have told the inquiry that was their experience with Cameron.

Among them, the mother of missing woman Tanya Holyk complained in 1997 that Cameron had called her daughter a “cokehead” who had abandoned her child, and then threatened to call social services to take the baby away.

Cameron, who is now retired, teared up several times speaking about work she said she loved because she sometimes helped people reunite.

“I was in there for 22.5 years. Not everyone that I spoke to was polite to me and quite possibly I wasn’t polite to them. But I would never make derogatory statements of any nature,” Cameron said.

She noted family members were often agitated or even swearing because they were so upset.

“These are people that were reported missing because someone loved them, someone wanted to find them,” Cameron said.

She said she received almost no formal training for her position, which at first only involved answering telephones but later saw her making phone calls to friends of missing people and closing files if someone confirmed seeing the person.

She said was only spoken to once by a manager about complaints levelled against her by family members of victims when they were convened around 2000 by Project Evenhanded, a joint Vancouver Police and RCMP investigation into historical cases of missing women.

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Retired_Can_Soldier

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Very unfortunate. While it makes an argument for legal prostitution, the women grabbed up by Picton would not have been working for brothels or escort agencies.
 

karrie

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If you were to legalize both drugs and prostitution, those women would have had a figthing chance to get help and be on someone's radar instead of intentionally living under it.

Unfortunately, the culture we currently breed, where the police are to be avoided, means that they really don't have much choice when thy get a call about someone with no address having gone missing. Is there more they could have done? Yes, there always is. The big question to ask though is.... would it have made a difference? Without an address, in a life where brushing up against strangers is an hourly occurrence, I doubt the police could have found anything. And don't think for a minute that they don't wish they had. I doubt any of the police who've spent time out at that pig farm will brush off a missing woman so easily, hoping her pimp just moved her away from her support system without a word.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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If you were to legalize both drugs and prostitution, those women would have had a figthing chance to get help and be on someone's radar instead of intentionally living under it.

I can't say agree with you there Karrie. I don't see any benefit to legalizing drugs except compounding it by making drug dealers above the law. And, I might add that your staement in your second paragraph kind of contradicts your initial statement.
 

lone wolf

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By legalizing, controlling - and licencing sellers - you're not making drug dealers or prostitutes above any law. You are making them answerable to it, getting tax revenue and killing the expense of busting them
 

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By legalizing, controlling - and licencing sellers - you're not making drug dealers above any law. You are making them answerable to it and killing the expense of busting them

Yeah okay. Let me show you another, now legal, scumbag who is benefiting our society.



Legal Loansharking.

They used to be answerable to the law.

And while they don't break your legs anymore the certainly prey on the weak and poor.
 

karrie

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I can't say agree with you there Karrie. I don't see any benefit to legalizing drugs except compounding it by making drug dealers above the law. And, I might add that your staement in your second paragraph kind of contradicts your initial statement.


How does my second statement about the way it works in the culture we currently run, contradict my first statement about how doing things differently could make it easier for prostitutes to be safe?
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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And pedophiles.

Don't forget the pedophiles.

Head on down to Wal-Mart and grab a brain if you're going to join a discussion.

No one is advocating legalizing pedopheliia.

If you were to legalize both drugs and prostitution, those women would have had a figthing chance to get help and be on someone's radar instead of intentionally living under it.

The big question to ask though is.... would it have made a difference? Without an address, in a life where brushing up against strangers is an hourly occurrence, I doubt the police could have found anything.

Maybe I'm reading you wrong.
 

karrie

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Yeah okay. Let me show you another, now legal, scumbag who is benefiting our society.



Legal Loansharking.

They used to be answerable to the law.

And while they don't break your legs anymore the certainly prey on the weak and poor.

Don't forget....



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karrie

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Maybe I'm reading you wrong.


Okay, I'll explain further....

Right now it benefits prostitutes to be homeless. If you get picked up for prostitution, and you have a home address, you make it easy for police to find/harass you. And, since it's illegal, and you can't get any names/records of who you're meeting with, your clientele are untraceable too. These are facts of prostitution under the current system. These facts are what perpetuates instances like the Pickton farm. The police can't change the game. They can't make prostitutes and drug dealers trust them when they're also supposed to be arresting them. The only way to improve things is to erase the need to hide and dodge police.