Anti Pan-Am Games website

[dumpthemonarchy]

This website, rising deficits, and Own The Podium will eventually kill the Pan-Am Games and the Commonwealth Games. Winning at these inferior events just isn't worth much any more when you are actually the best in the world at the Olympics with a gold medal. These third rate games are a waste of billions of tax dollars. Having these games permits athletes to be happy with finishing 35th. That's what the BC and Canada Games are for.

The 2015 Pan-Am Games in Toronto are budgeted at $1.4 billion. They will be three times higher. Happened with the Vancouver Olympics, they were gonna be real cheap, and they were not.

Do we have these inferior games or cut OAS?



No Tax for Pan Am Games (Toronto, 2015)

[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am Games cost claims don't add up says Carpenters Local 18 union (Daily Commercial News and Construction Record, February 28, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Best laid plans (Ottawa Citizen, February 22, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Answers to Pan Am Games concerns hard to come by (Toronto Star, February 19, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am Games are running into trouble (Toronto Star, February 14, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am velodrome could cost Milton millions (Toronto Star, February 14, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Losing bidder bridles at Pan Am Games park selection, Equine Canada "thrilled" (Daily Commercial News and Construction Record, February 13, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Milton helps Hamilton dodge velodrome bullet (Hamilton Spectator, February 12, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Milton, Ontario council approves velodrome for 2015 Pan Am games (Daily Commercial News and Construction Record, February 3, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am equestrian site selection not fair: park owner (Toronto Sun, January 30, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am Games organizers accused of questionable venue tendering (Toronto Star, January 30, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Milton council gives green light for velodrome (Hamilton Spectator, January 30, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Toronto Pan Am Games changes source of concerns (Toronto Sun, January 27, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Games changer: City's Pan Am sites on budget bubble (Hamilton Spectator, January 27, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am Games set for big venue changes (Toronto Star, January 26, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]2015 Pan Am Games on track and on budget, Ontario Liberals say (Globe and Mail, January 12, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Toronto 2015 Pan Am Games builder shortlist announced (Daily Commercial News and Construction Record, January 5, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Hamilton too late to recoup velodrome: McMeekin (Hamilton Spectator, January 3, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Olympian calls Pan Am velodrome a 'white elephant ' (Hamilton Spectator, January 3, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan American Games in financial trouble, Olympic icon warns (Toronto Star, January 3, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Henderson letter outlines skyrocketing Pan Am Games costs (Toronto Sun, January 2, 2012)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Cycle track secrecy (Hamilton Spectator, December 28, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Silent funder might inflate velodrome hopes (Hamilton Spectator, December 28, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Weak rail link (Now, December 21, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pearson rail link has nothing to do with Pan Am Games (Toronto Sun, December 19, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Toronto airport rail construction to cost $129 million: Aecon (Daily Commercial News and Construction Record, December 19, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Construction to start in spring on airport rail link (Toronto Star, December 19, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Construction on Union-Pearson air-rail link to start this spring (National Post, December 19, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Toronto-Pearson rail link a go this spring, McGuinty says (Toronto Sun, December 19, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Construction of rail service to Pearson airport begins in spring (City News Toronto, December 19, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pearson-Union Station rail link construction to kick off in the spring (Globe and Mail, December 19, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pearson Airport link construction begins in spring (Canadian Press, December 19, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]The ever-flawed Pearson rail link (Toronto Star, December 18, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am organizers looking at Milton for velodrome (CTV, December 15, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Milton gets the nod for velodrome, but … (Hamilton Spectator, December 15, 2011; also: Toronto Star December 15, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Milton dubbed preferred site for velodrome by Pan-Am Games organizing committee (insideHalton.com, December 15, 2011)[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Milton to pursue Pan Am Games velodrome (Hamilton Spectator, December 13, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Wheels turning to Laurier velodrome (Hamilton Spectator, December 13, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Milton to pursue Pan Am Games velodrome (Hamilton Spectator, December 12, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Battling the traffic bulge (Hamilton Spectator, December 10, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]2015 Pan Am velodrome off table in Vaughan[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana](YorkRegion.com, December 6, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Vaughan vetoes Pan Am velodrome[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana](Hamilton Spectator, December 6, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Milton pursuing velodrome[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana](insideHalton.com, November 24, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Province clams up on Pan Am Games details[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana](The Gazette, November 23, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Councillors 'frightened' by Pan Am report[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana](The Oshawa Express, November 23, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Town going for velodrome[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana](insidehalton.com, November 22, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Milton preparing bid for Pan Am velodrome[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana](Toronto Star, November 22, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am planners look to gag councillors on stadium details[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Verdana] (Hamilton Spectator, November 17, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Town okays agreement for equestrian park (Caledon Citizen, November 17, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]City on losing end of Pan Am Games[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana](The Oshawa Express, November 16, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am Games costs skyrocket for City[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana](The Oshawa Express, November 16, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Caledon backs controversial Pan Am deal[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana](Toronto Star, November 15, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Surprise? Pan Am price tag climbing[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana](Hamilton Spectator, November 9, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Ams: Was it worth it?[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana](Toronto Star, October 29, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]CIBC backs Pan Am Games [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Verdana](Toronto Star, October 27, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]This $100000/year job could be yours[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana](openfile Hamliton, October 26, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Hey Milton, Want a Velodrome?[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana](VIDEO - CHCH News, October 19, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana](Milton) Council eyeing velodrome (insideHalton.com, October 19, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]New City Park an official practice site for Pan Am soccer (insideHalton.com, October 19, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Hamilton's shot at velodrome all but dead (Toronto Star, October 11, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]It's a GO: Ontario picks up tab (insideHalton.com, September 29, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am Games team stumbles out of the gate (Toronto Star, September 18, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Velodrome backers: Let's get serious (Hamilton Spectator, September 14, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Velodrome has city chasing its own tail (Hamilton Spectator, September 13, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Team picked to build athletes' village for Toronto's Pan Am Games (Globe and Mail, September 7, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]No new dollars for new Ticats stadium? (Hamilton Spectator, August 30, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]City could be on hook for $24M for velodrome (Hamilton Spectator, August 29, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Toronto won't bid for 2020 Olmpics (CBC, August 11, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pearson-Union link gets $53M worth of diesel trains (Toronto Star, February 18, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Now bring on the velodrome (Hamilton Spectator, February 1, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Touchdown! Ontario boots in extra $22M to save Ivor Wynne deal (Hamilton Spectator, January 31, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Province to Fill Funding Gap for Hamilton Stadium (Ottawa Citizen, January 31, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Queen's Park lncreases Stadium Funding (Globe and Mail, January 30, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Province Saves Hamilton Stadium Project (National Post, January 30, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am fun begins early as costs double and city council freaks out (Toronto Life, January 18, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]No more surprise Pan Am bills (Globe and Mail, January 17, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am flap at City Hall (Toronto Sun, January 17, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]City committee agrees to cover increasing Pan Am Games costs (Inside Toronto, January 17, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Toronto Pan Am Games bill doubles (CBC, January 17, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am cash call shocker (Toronto Sun, January 17, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]As Pan Am costs double, Ford says no more surprises (Globe and Mail, January 17, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Costly Pan Am ‘surprises’ worry councillors (Toronto Star, January 17, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Toronto's cost to host Pan Am Games could double (CTV, January 17, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am Games costs could jump to $96.5M (National Post, January 17, 2011)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am pool approved for U of T campus (CBC, March 22, 2010)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]UTSC students to vote in referendum for aquatics centre (Inside Toronto, March 11, 2010)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]The Pan-Am panhandle (The Varsity, March 8, 2010)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Radio Interview: Paul McKeever, Spokesperson for No Tax for Pan Am Games (Ryan Doyle Show, CFRB 1010 AM, Toronto - March 10, 2010)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Radio Interview: Paul McKeever, Spokesperson for No Tax for Pan Am Games (John Oakley Show, AM640 AM - March 10, 2010)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Toronto's 2015 Pan Am Games to Cost Taxpayers $11.6B? (Paul McKeever blog, March 10, 2010)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]AM900 CHML Poll Results (August 29, 2009) [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Hamilton on track for Games committee visit (Hamilton Spectator - August 29, 2009) [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Just say no to Pan Am Games political group says (Stoney Creek News, August 28, 2009)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Say no to Pan Am Games political group says (Hamilton Mountain News, August 28, 2009) [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Radio Interview: No Tax for Pan Am Campaign: Paul McKeever, Spokesperson (CHRW-FM, London - August 27, 2009) [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Radio Interview: No Tax for Pan Am Campaign: Paul McKeever, Spokesperson (Talk 820 AM, Hamilton - August 26, 2009) [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Protest launched against 2015 Pan Am bid (CJOB 68, Manitoba)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]Pan Am Funding (The Hamiltonian, August 25, 2009)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Verdana]'Splinter' group campaigns to halt Pan Am funds (Hamilton Spectator, August 25, 2009)[/FONT]

 

[Machjo]

And why not the Olympic games too while we're at it. I'm sure they could find private spnsors.

 

[TenPenny]

Exactly. The government hardly needs to be in the amateur sports business. It's a waste of tax money.

 

[taxslave]

I don't mind the games too much but I don't see why they feel the need to build a bunch of new facilities every time. Must be a field somewhere that they can run around in.

 

[Machjo]

I don't mind the games too much but I don't see why they feel the need to build a bunch of new facilities every time. Must be a field somewhere that they can run around in.

It probably would be cheaper to select a spot and just have the Olympics there every time.

 

[TenPenny]

I don't mind the games too much but I don't see why they feel the need to build a bunch of new facilities every time. Must be a field somewhere that they can run around in.

Because that's the whole point of the Games, to end up with a 'lasting legacy' of buildings, so that we can spend more money training another bunch of athletes to compete at the next games.

 

[Machjo]

Because that's the whole point of the Games, to end up with a 'lasting legacy' of buildings, so that we can spend more money training another bunch of athletes to compete at the next games.

And I thought it was all about pumelling each other on the sports field rather than the battle field.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

And I thought it was all about pumelling each other on the sports field rather than the battle field.

It is. Sports is a vehicle for nations these days, a chance for national glory in a way. Countries want to market themselves as nice places to visit. In the 1970s, China got few tourists, so it costs money to change a country's image, and the IOC is more than willing to let you spend billions to do so.

But the Pan-Am Games, no one cares. Like the Commonwealth Games they have been superseded by the Olympic Games and funds are limited these days. Take away money from the OAS for games the public cares little about? The inferior games are hardly on TV any more, we've moved on.

 

[TenPenny]

I dunno, if it comes to playing games with them PanAm girls on the tv show, I'd take that redhead, or the french one at the drop of a hat.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

I dunno, if it comes to playing games with them PanAm girls on the tv show, I'd take that redhead, or the french one at the drop of a hat.

TV show, nice girls there.

 

[Kreskin]

They aren't third rate games to the competitors. Winning, even participating, are great achievements. There is more to life than sitting at a mailbox waiting for an OAS cheque.

 

[damngrumpy]

It is fine to be critical of the money being spent but the negative attitude with it left me
no doubt as to who started it. First of all the Pan Am games and the Commonwealth
games are training centers. Athletes get exposure to the main event and they are
settled down for the main event. Therefore I disagree,I think these games will be
around for quite awhile. As for funding, I think in the modern area of social interaction
and commerce, sport is an avenue of communication and relationship building therefore
I think we should put up some money for athletes. Should we spend as much as we do?
That is the open question, but I think we should be involved. There are those into science
there are those into culture and sport and a host of other avenues of importance and to
some degree we should be investing in societies future, and sport on the world stage
is part of it, I don't like it but that is the way it is.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

They aren't third rate games to the competitors. Winning, even participating, are great achievements. There is more to life than sitting at a mailbox waiting for an OAS cheque.

They're third rate competitions to elite athletes who skip them. So, let people have their fun at BC/Canada Games so they can meet and have sex with other healthy young Canadians. I totally support that.

Compete against Zambia, Mozambique, Belize and Barbados? Why bother.

 

[Kreskin]

They're third rate competitions to elite athletes who skip them. So, let people have their fun at BC/Canada Games so they can meet and have sex with other healthy young Canadians. I totally support that.

Compete against Zambia, Mozambique, Belize and Barbados? Why bother.

Enter it and see how you do.

 

[TenPenny]

He must be a miserable fokker in real life, 'cause he's surely one here.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Enter it and see how you do.

The substandard athletes who are happy to place 57th, get plenty of my tax dollars already. They don't need me.

Why we're giving money to these bush league events and talking about cutting OAS seems absurd. The Empire and Commonwealth are UK's creation and in the UK's interests to support them, not ours. Time to jettison these third world countries and focus on the other sports we now watch and follow. Most Canadians like the idea of becoming an Olympic power, that's the big time.