Time to embrace Keystone pipeline: Clinton

B00Mer

Keep Calm and Carry On
Sep 6, 2008
44,800
7,297
113
Rent Free in Your Head
www.getafteritmedia.com



Suddenly the Keystone XL pipeline is all the talk of U.S. politics - again.

A day after Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said Americans "de-serve" the Canadian oil that Keystone would deliver, former U.S. president Bill Clinton said it was time for the U.S. to "embrace" the long-delayed project.

Clinton, speaking at an energy conference in Maryland, said he believes the pipeline should be approved on a new route that avoids the ecologically fragile Sand Hills region of Nebraska.

He suggested Calgary-based TransCanada Corp. botched its initial application by pro-posing an original route that cut directly through the Sand Hills and the vast Ogallala aquifer.

"One of the most amazing things to me about this Keystone pipeline deal is that they ever filed that route in the first place since they could've gone around the Nebraska Sand Hills and avoided most of the dangers, no matter how imagined, to the Ogallala with a different route," Clinton said in re-marks reported by Politico and Bloomberg.

"The extra cost of running (the pipeline around the Sand Hills) is infinitesimal compared to the revenue that will be generated over a long period of time," Clinton added.

"So, I think we should embrace it and develop a stakeholder-driven system of high standards for doing the work."

Clinton's remarks are certain to cause a stir among U.S. environmentalists who remain steadfastly opposed to the pipeline, which would carry 830,000 barrels of oil per day from Hardisty to the U.S. Gulf Coast.

TransCanada said this week it will reapply in the near future for a presidential permit - after being denied one this year - with an alternative route that avoids the Nebraska Sand Hills.

The decision on whether to recommend approval or rejection of the permit falls to the U.S. Department of State, under the direction of Hillary Clinton, wife of the former president.

The Keystone XL issue has been simmering on the front burner of American politics since January, when President Barack Obama and the State Department denied TransCanada's permit application.

But the political sentiment in Washington - particularly in the White House - over Keystone XL began to shift again this week.

Obama welcomed Trans Canada's decision on Monday to proceed with building the southernmost leg of Keystone XL - from Cushing, Okla., to Port Arthur, Texas - as a stand-alone project that does not require the State Department's approval.
© Copyright (c) The Calgary Herald

Read more: Time to embrace Keystone pipeline: Clinton
 

mentalfloss

Prickly Curmudgeon Smiter
Jun 28, 2010
39,778
454
83
Clinton, speaking at an energy conference in Maryland, said he believes the pipeline should be approved on a new route that avoids the ecologically fragile Sand Hills region of Nebraska.

This is precisely the reason Obama delayed construction, so what is Transcanada waiting for then?
 

mentalfloss

Prickly Curmudgeon Smiter
Jun 28, 2010
39,778
454
83
Sh!t all that have to do is use the entry point into the USA at the Saskatchewan / North Dakota border, and it's a straight shot south pretty much.


The thing is, there needs to be enough time for an environmental review. The pipeline will happen, but it needs a proper assessment first. If Transcanada was smart enough to take that into consideration the first time around, they wouldn't be in this mess.
 

B00Mer

Keep Calm and Carry On
Sep 6, 2008
44,800
7,297
113
Rent Free in Your Head
www.getafteritmedia.com
The thing is, there needs to be enough time for an environmental review. The pipeline will happen, but it needs a proper assessment first. If Transcanada was smart enough to take that into consideration the first time around, they wouldn't be in this mess.

You're missing the point.. There already is pipeline in place from Canada to Oklahoma, all they essentially have to do is complete the rest from OK to TX. Basically running it along hwy 75 down to Dallas, then along I45 into Houston and south to Pasadena, TX.

Hwy 75 is a nothing area. a truck route and not much else, with little towns spotting along the road. Mostly Indian reservations and farm land, flat.

They can start that section right away, then worry about the northern "short cut" later..
 

mentalfloss

Prickly Curmudgeon Smiter
Jun 28, 2010
39,778
454
83
Hwy 75 is a nothing area. a truck route and not much else, with little towns spotting along the road. Mostly Indian reservations and farm land, flat.

You have to approve an entire project if that is the project being put forward, not bits and pieces.

If that was the case, then Transcanada should have to get that segment's approval first, then build that pipeline. Then, they would have to get approval for the second segment, etc.. But if you want pipeline approved, then the entire pipeline needs to be approved.
 

B00Mer

Keep Calm and Carry On
Sep 6, 2008
44,800
7,297
113
Rent Free in Your Head
www.getafteritmedia.com
You have to approve an entire project if that is the project being put forward, not bits and pieces.

If that was the case, then Transcanada should have to get that segment's approval first, then build that pipeline. Then, they would have to get approval for the second segment, etc.. But if you want pipeline approved, then the entire pipeline needs to be approved.

LOOK AT THE MAP!! The gray portion is already complete, so they just need to build new pipeline from Okla to Tex.

So, what's the problem with that? They already have existing pipeline in place from Alberta to Oklahoma.

Maybe down the road they can get approval to build "an extension" to short cut the existing pipeline, but they could be supplying Texas with oil now!!
 

petros

The Central Scrutinizer
Nov 21, 2008
109,386
11,444
113
Low Earth Orbit
Boomer....you get a hero cookie. You're the first one to spot the Keystone and realize it exists and that XL is just part two.
 

mentalfloss

Prickly Curmudgeon Smiter
Jun 28, 2010
39,778
454
83
Boomer....you get a hero cookie. You're the first one to spot the Keystone and realize it exists and that XL is just part two.

I'm only talking about the XL part as well.

Everyone knows it's an extension of Keystone.
 

mentalfloss

Prickly Curmudgeon Smiter
Jun 28, 2010
39,778
454
83
Not everyone, if they did know they wouldn't give a **** about another line.

At some point, if enough people protest, the government will act on it. They realized that this pipeline needed more analysis after all of washington stormed the white house.
 

petros

The Central Scrutinizer
Nov 21, 2008
109,386
11,444
113
Low Earth Orbit
Pffffb. All they needed was to temporarily appease protesters and wait quietly for troubles in Iran to escalate. I called that months ago and it's coming to fruitition.
 

mentalfloss

Prickly Curmudgeon Smiter
Jun 28, 2010
39,778
454
83
Pffffb. All they needed was to temporarily appease protesters and wait quietly for troubles in Iran to escalate. I called that months ago and it's coming to fruitition.

Iran just highlights the fact that we need to get over our dependency on petrol.
 

petros

The Central Scrutinizer
Nov 21, 2008
109,386
11,444
113
Low Earth Orbit
We don't have enough copper and there is no way in Hell you can turn copper mining, smelting and copper recycling into a "green and sustainable" industry.
 

taxslave

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 25, 2008
36,362
4,337
113
Vancouver Island
Iran just highlights the fact that we need to get over our dependency on petrol.

No Iran just highlights the need to get away from middle east oil and therefore middle east politics. Then we can have a Canadian or at least North American price for oil not dependent on third world dictators and religious fanatics.

We don't have enough copper and there is no way in Hell you can turn copper mining, smelting and copper recycling into a "green and sustainable" industry.

Been my experience that copper left outside for a while will turn green on its own.
 

mentalfloss

Prickly Curmudgeon Smiter
Jun 28, 2010
39,778
454
83
No Iran just highlights the need to get away from middle east oil and therefore middle east politics.

That's because you're shortsighted.

In the greater context, this highlights the dependency on petrol, full stop.