Graham James in Court Again


wulfie68
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Graham James to be sentenced for sexual assaults | CTV News

Graham James is supposed to be in a Winnipeg courtroom to be sentenced, yet again, for more sexual assault charges on young hockey players in his care. Some of these charges go back to when Theo Fleury (now in his 40s) was playing junior for him, and another former NHL player Greg Gilhooly is involved, so the charges are well in the past but it leads me to wonder how this man can still be free. As time has progressed more and more players (famous like Sheldon Kennedy and Fleury but also lesser known ones) have come forward... and still for a man who was a serial rapist, the expectation is he won't receive any jail time.

This is the type of case that gets the Conservative base in this country frothing at the mouth, and for good reason. Recidivism among pedophiles in the 90% range, and yet we see a convicted one, in high profile cases, walk away with slaps on the wrist at worst. This is why people (myself included) think the system is broken. I do think we overreact to some drug-related offenses but guys like Graham James should never be allowed outside a prison again.
 
shadowshiv
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This molesting piece of **** should get tossed into the slammer and never be allowed to taste freedom ever again. The fact that he had received a pardon for his first bout of molestations is one of the biggest miscarriages of justice I have ever seen.
 
#juan
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Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

This molesting piece of **** should get tossed into the slammer and never be allowed to taste freedom ever again. The fact that he had received a pardon for his first bout of molestations is one of the biggest miscarriages of justice I have ever seen.

Absolutely. I don't know why we are mollycoddling this S.O.B.. It is not as if he was going to be cured any time soon. The damage this
peckerhead has done will never be repaired.
 
petros
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The Swift Curent Broncos declared last Saturday "Sheldon Kennedy Day" and retired his jersey.

Global Regina | February 18th is Sheldon Kennedy Day (external - login to view)
 
JLM
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Contrary to my general beliefs the only solution I can see is warehousing the bastards. The only reason I'm against giving them the needle is because they are born this way.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Contrary to my general beliefs the only solution I can see is warehousing the bastards. The only reason I'm against giving them the needle is because they are born this way.

There was a good Louis Theroux doc on a sex offender rehab in the US on iChannel yesterday. Warehousing/rehab has become a for profit enterprise. To me that is just as disgusting.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

There was a good Louis Theroux doc on a sex offender rehab in the US on iChannel yesterday. Warehousing/rehab has become a for profit enterprise. To me that is just as disgusting.

What's your solution?
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

What's your solution?

www.documentingreality.com/fo...iles-movie.flv (external - login to view)

Not for profit rehab maybe?
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

www.documentingreality.com/fo...iles-movie.flv (external - login to view)

Not for profit rehab maybe?

Short of chemical castration, I don't have much faith in rehab.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Short of chemical castration, I don't have much faith in rehab.

Why not? It was a mindset that got them into trouble and only a change in mindset can get them out.

Coalinga State Hospital: Home Page
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Why not? It was a mindset that got them into trouble and only a change in mindset can get them out.

Coalinga State Hospital: Home Page

Would rehab prevent you getting a hard on when a naked woman walks by?
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Would rehab prevent you getting a hard on when a naked woman walks by?

Yup! Watch the documentary and get an idea what goes on instead of guessing.

They hook a device up to their wangs and test for that while they look at photos and video montages.

It's at 12:40 in the Documentary.
 
wulfie68
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The recidivism rate for pedophiles is over 90% with current rehab/therapy techniques. I don't rehabbing them as anything close to an acceptable risk to the children of our society. It may about a mindset but from all reports it is a highly addictive one and one that leads to infringing on the rights of The Most Vulnerable Segment of our population. I don't see castration as a viable alternative either. Lock 'em up for good.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by wulfie68View Post

The recidivism rate for pedophiles is over 90% with current rehab/therapy techniques. I don't rehabbing them as anything close to an acceptable risk to the children of our society. It may about a mindset but from all reports it is a highly addictive one and one that leads to infringing on the rights of The Most Vulnerable Segment of our population. I don't see castration as a viable alternative either. Lock 'em up for good.

How many abusers were once themselves abused? With this fact looming overhead would parents of the abused scream bloody murder if the victims were treated for the potential of future abuse?
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

How many abusers were once themselves abused? With this fact looming overhead would parents of the abused scream bloody murder if the victims were treated for the potential of future abuse?

Possibly a lot, but some suck it up and move on!
 
petros
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They suck it up? Really? Move on to what? The crack pipe or the beer bottle and on welfare?
 
wulfie68
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

How many abusers were once themselves abused? With this fact looming overhead would parents of the abused scream bloody murder if the victims were treated for the potential of future abuse?

Just because most abusers were victims, doesn't mean most victims will become abusers. You're making a bad assumption if that's the road you're trying to go down.

I think victims of the abuse DO need help to ensure they don't go down the road into becoming offenders but its not as if they are all going to become child abusers without it.
 
shadowshiv
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

How many abusers were once themselves abused? With this fact looming overhead would parents of the abused scream bloody murder if the victims were treated for the potential of future abuse?

I feel sympathy to the ones who were abused. However, if they themselves become abusers I feel absolutely no sympathy for them at all.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

How many abusers were once themselves abused? With this fact looming overhead would parents of the abused scream bloody murder if the victims were treated for the potential of future abuse?

Yup, it's funny how some people that have never dealt with this type of thing downplay the effects it has. Also, people assume there is all kinds of help for victims of abuse. The mental health world is just like every other world in the health care system. There is an assembly line mentality.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

I feel sympathy to the ones who were abused. However, if they themselves become abusers I feel absolutely no sympathy for them at all.

It's not a choice. The initial abuse re-wires the noggin in nasty ways.
 
shadowshiv
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

It's not a choice. The initial abuse re-wires the noggin in nasty ways.

And not all molesters were molested as children. I will never feel sympathy for molesters. Ever.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

It's not a choice. The initial abuse re-wires the noggin in nasty ways.

Not everyone who was abused grows up to abuse.

Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

And not all molesters were molested as children. I will never feel sympathy for molesters. Ever.

There is no reason to feel sympathy for them. I don't care if that's cold or cruel, kids deserve better, these monsters deserve nothing!
 
wulfie68
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I'm not going to say I feel no sympathy for abusers who were abused as children: I do feel for what they went through, what they should not have had to go through in a better world, but they now represent a danger to other innocents. Its the same as I feel bad for dog that is bitten/contracts rabies or other diseases; while feeling bad for the animal and the family that has to lose a pet, I accept they need to be put down because of the danger they represent to other animals and people. That's the underlying thought for me: the danger needs to be contained to keep as many people safe as possible.
 
petros
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The children are our future...if we kill them now we can save the planet.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

The children are our future...if we kill them now we can save the planet.

You're always thinking ahead
 
DaSleeper
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We have Justice in Canada???????

Quote:

The Crown was seeking a six-year prison term, but provincial court Judge Catherine Carlson sentenced James to two years behind bars.


Graham James sentence may be appealed
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

We have Justice in Canada???????




Graham James sentence may be appealed

I heard on the news last night he'll likely be on full parole by the end of the year. Makes you wonder why they even bothered with all the effort, time and expense. May as well just put the bastard in charge of running a day care.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

We have Justice in Canada???????




Graham James sentence may be appealed

In Ms. Carlson's courtroom, I'd say not. What a travesty.
 
shadowshiv
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

We have Justice in Canada???????




Graham James sentence may be appealed

It would probably have been better to just allow Theo Fleury to shoot pucks at the piece of ****'s crotch(and some at his melon for good measure). Two years is a joke. I really hope they can successfully appeal this to give this scumwad a longer sentence.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

And not all molesters were molested as children. I will never feel sympathy for molesters. Ever.

Do you feel sympathy for Theo?
 

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