Who's Using Children as Political Pawns????


DaSleeper
#1
Unions???.....Naahh!

NDP???????


C/P to follow....


OTTAWA - Two of Canada's largest unions paid to bus hundreds of school kids to Parliament Hill on Tuesday to rally against what they call government inaction on First Nations education.

Officials with the Public Service Alliance of Canada and Canadian Union of Public Employees denied the elementary school students were enlisted as props in the unions' ongoing public battle against Prime Minister Stephen Harper's government.

"We sponsored the bus to bring them...CUPE and PSAC," said Don Moran, a senior officer with CUPE. "We kind of had a joint venture to bring them down so that all the voices could be heard here...I think (the kids) are speaking from their hearts. I don't think there's any brainwashing."

The children, from Ottawa's Lady Evelyn alternative school, Gatineau's Pierre Elliot Trudeau School and Kitigan Zibi First Nation, brought signs and sang songs about First Nations education. The rally was called "Have a Heart" to incorporate a Valentine's Day theme.

"Mr. Harper, have a heart," the group sang. "Reconsider what you're doing."

The children ranged from junior kindergartners to Grade 6 students. Some of their attacks were directly aimed at the prime minister and his "lies."

Lisa Howell, a grade 5-6 special education teacher at Pierre Elliot Trudeau School, says it wasn't a staged political event.

"I don't feel like we're advancing an agenda," Howell said. "I feel like these kids are standing up for the rights of children in their own country. Children in their country don't have schools. Children in our country don't live in proper homes."

Public schools are typically responsible for raising their own money for field trip transportation but CUPE and PSAC offered to pay for buses and the schools accepted.

NDP MP Charlie Angus also attended Tuesday's rally and said the kids fully understand the First Nation education issue.

"Education is a universal human right...Canada has treated (First Nation) children with contempt. Children have been relegated to a fourth world, so if children want to call it the way it is, that's the way it is," Angus said.

The Prime Minister's Office wouldn't respond to the accusations directly but Aboriginal Affairs Minister John Duncan addressed First Nation education in the House of Commons.

"The government will keep building on our progress to improve First Nations education," Duncan said. "We are engaged with First Nations."


Unions deny students used as props at First Nations rally | Canada | News | Edmonton Sun
 
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CDNBear
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That's right up there with my eldest being told he was a murderer by a teacher, because he hunted and fished.

Teachers should keep their political/philosophical/ideological agenda's out of the classroom. Especially when we're talking about elementary school kids.
 
SLM
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Um, yeah those kids look totally jazzed to be there.

Remember when the class field trip meant a trip to the museum or the sugar bush?

Why can't folks just let kids be kids?
 
DaSleeper
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Um, yeah those kids look totally jazzed to be there.

Remember when the class field trip meant a trip to the museum or the sugar bush?

Why can't folks just let kids be kids?

The socialist indoctrination must begin early to make it easier for the College and University Profs..........
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post



That's right up there with my eldest being told he was a murderer by a teacher, because he hunted and fished.

Teachers should keep their political/philosophical/ideological agenda's out of the classroom. Especially when we're talking about elementary school kids.

Teacher's sort of backfired when she asked if anyone knew about PETA and my grand daughter shot back with "People Eat Tasty Animals"....

I have no idea where she might have heard that....
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Why can't folks just let kids be kids?

Ask the Khmer Rouge, or CUPE and PSAC.

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

I have no idea where she might have heard that....

I'm going to call BS in a friendly way!
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

The socialist indoctrination must begin early to make it easier for the College and University Profs..........

I've met a few University Profs, they have things easy enough as it is.
 
L Gilbert
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lol I posted a vidclip of a kid somewhere in CC about this same thing. I'm watching this kid in the vid and wondering who wrote her speech for her because she was obviously reading.

Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

I've met a few University Profs, they have things easy enough as it is.

I think so, too.
 
shadowshiv
+3
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I personally feel this is a pretty low thing to do. There is no way that this can be anything but them having an agenda. If I was a parent of one of those kids, I would be pretty miffed at how they were used like that.

Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Um, yeah those kids look totally jazzed to be there.

Remember when the class field trip meant a trip to the museum or the sugar bush?

Why can't folks just let kids be kids?

Exactly! I remember visiting Ottawa on a Field Trip, and there was nothing political about the visit at all. We visited many of the sites, and we even went to a museum! Kids should be kids. They have to grow up so fast anyhow, so why not let them have their innocence for as long as possible?
 
TenPenny
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Its part of the child pornography that the cons warned us about.
 
captain morgan
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Maybe it's more accurate that it qualifies as child labour.
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

I personally feel this is a pretty low thing to do. There is no way that this can be anything but them having an agenda. If I was a parent of one of those kids, I would be pretty miffed at how they were used like that.

How do you know that the parents weren't aware? I doubt things have changed that much since I was in school, we were required to bring signed parental permission forms for any trips off school property. The OP mentions a range of students, maybe it's just students who wanted to go? Civics are important to learn aren't they? Or maybe the students who went just signed up to get out of class? Who knows.

Now... I'm going to back out of this thread before I get any anti-union or socialist hating jizz stuck to me from this circle jerk I wandered into
 
DaSleeper
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

How do you know that the parents weren't aware? I doubt things have changed that much since I was in school, we were required to bring signed parental permission forms for any trips off school property. The OP mentions a range of students, maybe it's just students who wanted to go? Civics are important to learn aren't they? Or maybe the students who went just signed up to get out of class? Who knows.

Now... I'm going to back out of this thread before I get any anti-union or socialist hating jizz stuck to me from this circle jerk I wandered into

Religion or global warming....sometimes interchangeable...produce the same reaction to me
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

Exactly! I remember visiting Ottawa on a Field Trip, and there was nothing political about the visit at all. We visited many of the sites, and we even went to a museum! Kids should be kids. They have to grow up so fast anyhow, so why not let them have their innocence for as long as possible?

Indubitably.

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Maybe it's more accurate that it qualifies as child labour.

PSAC and CUPE are running a sweat shop? Yeah, I can see it.

Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Now... I'm going to back out of this thread before I get any anti-union or socialist hating jizz stuck to me from this circle jerk I wandered into

Well, I don't get accused of that every day.
 
TenPenny
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post


PSAC and CUPE are running a sweat shop? Yeah, I can see it.

Well, I can tell you that last year, my daughter and two friends spent their whole day (and I do mean, the whole day) baking cookies at school for the teachers' union meeting the next day. They didn't volunteer, they were 'volunteered' to do it. Something like 45 dozen cookies.

I wasn't very impressed.
 
DurkaDurka
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But what about those poor kitty cats Harper likes to pose with in his portraits? Poor things.
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurkaView Post

But what about those poor kitty cats Harper likes to pose with in his portraits? Poor things.


They were awfully cute.. And they went so well with that blue cardigan.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

Well, I can tell you that last year, my daughter and two friends spent their whole day (and I do mean, the whole day) baking cookies at school for the teachers' union meeting the next day. They didn't volunteer, they were 'volunteered' to do it. Something like 45 dozen cookies.

My son calls that voluntold.

Quote:

I wasn't very impressed.

I wouldn't have been either, especially if they weren't given a choice.

Maybe the sweatshop quip isn't so far out after all?
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurkaView Post

But what about those poor kitty cats Harper likes to pose with in his portraits? Poor things.

Political Paws?????

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

They were awfully cute.. And they went so well with that blue cardigan.

That was creepy that cardigan. Like Mr. Rogers creepy.
 
captain morgan
#20
You're thinking a political bun-fight.
 
DurkaDurka
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

They were awfully cute.. And they went so well with that blue cardigan.

Harper has an amazing collection of sweater vests and cardigans, he makes most elderly men jealous with his fashion.
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

That was creepy that cardigan. Like Mr. Rogers creepy.


No doubt... That and the helmet-style hair... It always reminds me of the old-school movie's idea of an android.

Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurkaView Post

Harper has an amazing collection of sweater vests and cardigans, he makes most elderly men jealous with his fashion.


I'll be looking forward to his use of the words curmudgeon and whippersnapper, hopefully in the same sentence and in Parliament
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

No doubt... That and the helmet-style hair... It always reminds me of the old-school movie's idea of an android.

He has Lego Man hair. That's no a good look on anybody.
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

He has Lego Man hair. That's no a good look on anybody.


Ya know.. He might don that look in order to get a break on his motorcycle insurance... A lid like that has to be some kind of material like they use in body armour
 
skookumchuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Teacher's sort of backfired when she asked if anyone knew about PETA and my grand daughter shot back with "People Eat Tasty Animals"....

I have no idea where she might have heard that....

20 odd years back, in a rural area west of RedneckDeer, my own daughter came home from school crying for the same reason. I visited the teacher, privately, and carefully explained that i was indeed the kind of person he thought i was and the consequences of his incredible act of stupidity would be far worse than what he would have expected had he crossed the girly men he went to teecher school with if he ever did that again.
End of problem but a seemingly incidental comment a week or so later by a Cop i knew gave me pause for a bit. Good to have like minded friends.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Ya know.. He might don that look in order to get a break on his motorcycle insurance... A lid like that has to be some kind of material like they use in body armour


It could be, have you noticed, it never moves, lol.
 
DurkaDurka
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Ya know.. He might don that look in order to get a break on his motorcycle insurance... A lid like that has to be some kind of material like they use in body armour

We should lend Harper to NASA, do some aerodynamic testing on his pompadour in a wind tunnel
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

It could be, have you noticed, it never moves, lol.

Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurkaView Post

We should lend Harper to NASA, do some aerodynamic testing on his pompadour in a wind tunnel


Idea:

Never moves and NASA..... I'm thinking that 'do' may be the new material for space vehicles to prevent burn-up during re-entries.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Idea:

Never moves and NASA..... I'm thinking that 'do' may be the new material for space vehicles to prevent burn-up during re-entries.

First the Canada Arm and now Harper! My heart is swelling with patriotic pride over our contributions to the space program.
 
Sparrow
#30
As mentioned usually the parents had to sign to allow their children to go on an activity outside of school, so what were they thinking of giving their permission. Are they so intimidated that they felt they had no choice but to sign?
 

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