Syria - |UN peace Keepers or interventions

Arab League to intervene if killings continue in Syria

  • Yes - but only with sanctions

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Arab league should increase sanctions

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • Yes with armed force if required

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No - armed force should not be used

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • Arab league to inform Russia China that a Veto would be unacceptable.

    Votes: 1 25.0%

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Goober

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BEIRUT) — Gunmen assassinated an army general in Damascus on Saturday in the first killing of a high ranking military officer in the Syrian capital since the uprising against President Bashar Assad's regime began in March, the state-run news agency said.

The attack is a sign that violence in Syria is reaching the tightly controlled capital, which has been relatively quiet compared to other cities. Though there was no immediate claim of responsibility, it could also indicate that rebel soldiers who have risen up in numerous cities and towns are trying to step up action in Damascus.

SANA news agency said three gunmen opened fire at Brig. Gen. Issa al-Khouli in the morning as he left his home in the Damascus neighborhood of Rukn-Eddine. Al-Khouli was a doctor and the chief of a military hospital in the capital. Such assassinations are not uncommon outside Damascus and army officers have been killed in the past, mostly in the restive provinces of Homs and Idlib.
(Syria Under Siege: Photographs by Alessio Romenzi)

Violence in other parts of the country left at least 11 people dead as regime troops pushed into rebel-held neighborhoods in the restive central city of Homs and shelled the mountain town of Zabadani, north of Damascus. The U.N. estimates that 5,400 people have been killed in Syria since the uprising began in March. But that figure is from January, when the U.N. stopped counting because the chaos in the country has made it all but impossible to check the figures. Hundreds are reported to have been killed since.
 

earth_as_one

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Only two ways exist to stop the bloodshed:

1) Invasion/Occupation by an international force

2) The presence of a massive UN Peacekeeper mission.

Option 1 is out as a result of the Russian China veto... China and Russia voted against a motion calling for Assad to step down and hand over power. These nations face similar internal unrest and know that they could face the exact same situation in the future. Option 2 is still a possibility. But the US and the west aren't interested in option 2. They'd rather have continued unrest than pay the cost of sending in peacekeepers. Considering the financial precariousness of most Western Nations, that's not a surprise.

Most likely Western powers will arm the rebels resulting in a prolonged and bloody civil war.

I support sanctions against Syria and providing rebels with sophisticated communication equipment only. We should also provide humanitarian food and medical aid.
 

Goober

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Only two ways exist to stop the bloodshed:

1) Invasion/Occupation by an international force

2) The presence of a massive UN Peacekeeper mission.

Option 1 is out as a result of the Russian China veto... China and Russia voted against a motion calling for Assad to step down and hand over power. These nations face similar internal unrest and know that they could face the exact same situation in the future. Option 2 is still a possibility. But the US and the west aren't interested in option 2. They'd rather have continued unrest than pay the cost of sending in peacekeepers. Considering the financial precariousness of most Western Nations, that's not a surprise.

Most likely Western powers will arm the rebels resulting in a prolonged and bloody civil war.

I support sanctions against Syria and providing rebels with sophisticated communication equipment only. We should also provide humanitarian food and medical aid.

So you support the rebels being able to talk securely. Wow. No not a Wow, really not a surprise. You seem attracted to ruthless regimes as long as they are anti Israel.
 

MHz

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So if Syria is to save itself she has to surrender to Russia, or China, or Iran? Then if NATO wanted to support the GCC 'invasion' then they would be coming up against a 'super power' rather than somebody with no spare parts at the beginning of a conflict. That should make some stocks rise unexpectedly except for the 'insiders'
 

Goober

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So if Syria is to save itself she has to surrender to Russia, or China, or Iran? Then if NATO wanted to support the GCC 'invasion' then they would be coming up against a 'super power' rather than somebody with no spare parts at the beginning of a conflict. That should make some stocks rise unexpectedly except for the 'insiders'

Only a matter of time before Assad goes out easily or in a box


Russia changes tack on Syrian intervention - The Globe and Mail

As the carnage in Syria worsened, Russia signaled a new-found willingness Monday to consider international intervention while the world’s nations planned a United Nations vote aimed at exposing the inaction of the great powers.

Syrian guns pounded anti-government strongholds in the opposition stronghold of Homs and the Arab League called for UN blue helmets to “to supervise implementation of a cease-fire.”


In Moscow, the shift indicated Russia was moving from defending Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, its primary Arab ally, to managing a transition.

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Russia, “together with other permanent members of the UN Security Council, (is) ready to promote the dialogue and an agreement.”

After twice vetoing Security Council resolutions condemning the brutal crackdown on pro-democracy protestors by forces loyal to Mr. Assad, Russia may be abandoning its absolute defence of the Syrian regime.

But Russia’s call for a ceasefire prior to any conference could prove impossible to achieve.

Meanwhile, in the General Assembly at the UN in New York, the world’s nations were planning to vote Monday on a resolution condemning Syria. Unlike the Security Council, where any of the five veto-wielding permanent members – Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States – can block any resolution, only a simply majority is needed in the 193-nation General Assembly. A vote is expected later this week.
 

EagleSmack

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2) The presence of a massive UN Peacekeeper mission.

Option 2 is still a possibility. But the US and the west aren't interested in option 2. They'd rather have continued unrest than pay the cost of sending in peacekeepers. Considering the financial precariousness of most Western Nations, that's not a surprise.

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Since when does Peacekeeping work when two adversaries are intent on fighting?
 

petros

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How many of you will complain when a couple million Christian Syrians show up on Nor Am's doorstep as refugees?
 

Spade

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It's been a bit of a slow day, so I've been thinking...
What if we had adopted the Norse gods?
Well, the Scandinavians would be the chosen people; and Abba would be a religious experience.
And, what if oil reserves were distributed more equitably around the globe?
Would the hot topic on CC be bison ranching?
As always,
Spade
PS
Next year in Oslo!
 

CDNBear

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I support sanctions against Syria and providing rebels with sophisticated communication equipment only.
We already know you support electronic warfare.

I've consistently supported freedom, justice and fairness in all cases. Goober supports killing innocent civilians including children when it works in Israel's favor and only opposes it when it works against Israel.
Can you back that up with some quotes?
 

Goober

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It's been a bit of a slow day, so I've been thinking...
What if we had adopted the Norse gods?
Well, the Scandinavians would be the chosen people; and Abba would be a religious experience.
And, what if oil reserves were distributed more equitably around the globe?
Would the hot topic on CC be bison ranching?
As always,
Spade
PS
Next year in Oslo!

Read way back when the Brits created those countries in the ME - Went against Lawrence's recommendations and history shows he was right.
 

Goober

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Britain gassed, and blasted, and iron-fisted to no avail. Time for us to learn.

Also time for the Arab world to hold regimes accountable. A slow process to democracy - Syria is already descending into sectarian violence and has for the past number of months, and like Petros mentioned Christians will be a main target if the regime keeps up the killings.