
I have brothers living in the States, one of them a GP, and I know of what I speak. Most people in the States get the best healthcare in the world. US deniers will not believe that but that is their predjudice.

Yea, WHO's ranking is from 2000 and I have no idea why we don't have a consistent analysis on this.
The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems was last produced in 2000, and the WHO no longer produces such a ranking table, because of the complexity of the task.
US deniers will not believe that but that is their predjudice.

I simply deny they have the best healthcare system. It is not the most accessible at all. It doesn't produce the best results. Unless you have lots of money.

Here's the newsweek rankings.. we're around 14 or 15th and the U.S. is 27th.
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The Japanese have a pretty commendable record.

Ya, I looked it up when you mentioned it the first time.
Where did you get those ranks from? I see Canada ranked at 7 for health and the US at 26.

Any idea what the difference in tax rates is during this exodus of jobs out of the country?

Are you sure trade agreements and removing trade barriers isn't more responsible?

Once trade barriers are removed, producers benefit from lower input costs such as the cost of labour.

Like you say, lots of pieces in the puzzle. Conservatives and liberals do suck, because they only want to consider talking points on their edge of the puzzle. There are far more puzzle pieces in the middle of any puzzle, and only when the puzzle pieces are connected does the big picture become clear.

I always thought that individual or collective style of life in this case....diet, execise ect...decided your healthy life expectancy, not your hospital system..
..unless you are one of those who wants big brother to control your life of course

I have a self procured insurance package, reasonably priced, that made getting medical attention in the States, fast and efficient. While here at home, I was still on a waiting list, just to get an MRI (That I couldn't physically have anyways, due to the metal in my body). Just to finish the diagnosis.
It took about three days in the States, to do what would have taken months in Canada. That there is my problem with the Canadian system.
I've never received medical attention in other countries, other than the odd stitch, so I can only base my opinion on my experiences between the US and Canada.

Hey, I'm not one against more options here in Canada, in fact I would like to see more private insurance options available...but Walter is making claims about the US system as a whole, when there is a very clear class effect. The wait times for Medicaid are longer than for some treatment options in Canada. Some Doctors won't even accept Medicaid coverage. Medication is not as accessible for Americans either. It's not a cut and dry claim Walter is making.
We completed 546 paired calls to 273 specialty clinics and found significant disparities in provider acceptance of Medicaid–CHIP versus private insurance across all tested specialties. Overall, 66% of Medicaid–CHIP callers (179 of 273) were denied an appointment as compared with 11% of privately insured callers (29 of 273) (relative risk, 6.2; 95% confidence interval [CI], 4.3 to 8.8; P<0.001). Among 89 clinics that accepted both insurance types, the average wait time for Medicaid–CHIP enrollees was 22 days longer than that for privately insured children (95% CI, 6.8 to 37.5; P=0.005).------

Reaganomics isn't empirical?
It's a proven fact!
Just look at the U.S.


Any idea why the jobs are going offshore?.. Any clue at all?
Hint: It has to do with my previous post regarding punitive taxes.
Try and put the pieces of the puzzle togther - it ain't hard, there is only 1 piece.

It's a variety of factors that also include 'unknowns'.
Access to markets, seeking to sell directly into a domestic market (ie. China), labour, materials and/or the incentives in terms of tax holidays that might be negotiated in the back room.
In the end, what we do know is that there are a multitude of 'western' companies that have made the move for very tangible reasons, tax treatment being one of the factors.
The world is a very different place today as compared to 1965.... I don't think that the Japanese were evening exporting into North America at that time (any significant trade that is)

Glad to see you recognize there is more than one piece to the puzzle now.

The fact is that tax rates have decreased concurrently with a decline in manufacturing.

It happens when bridles are removed; the horses not longer serve their purpose.

What is a non-punative tax rate? The tax rate was dropping...if tax rates were a good predictor of manufacturing production moving then you should have said we would have more production now, not less.