Province's laws moot: reserve

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Province's laws moot: reserve

Thursday, 10 November 2011 11:41 First Nation opens cheap-smoke and gaming site; challenges province By: Matt Goerzen
PIPESTONE, Man. -- Members of the Canupawakpa Dakota First Nation celebrated the opening of a controversial smoke shop and gaming centre with free cigarette samples and a challenge to provincial tobacco and gaming laws.

"We understand what we're doing," Canupawakpa Dakota Chief Frank Brown said during the shop's opening ceremonies Wednesday. "That's why we're here today. The province or the RCMP is going to come. But the question is, what laws are they going to use to do that?"

He said he's tired of watching mounting social problems for the 600 people on the reserve near the Saskatchewan boundary. The reserve's funding hasn't changed since 1980 although its population has doubled since then, he said.

About 80 people lined up to buy cheap cigarettes from the Dakota Chundee Smoke Shop and Gaming Centre, which is defying provincial regulations.

The opening drew supporters, including former Roseau River First Nation chief Terrance Nelson.

"This is going to break open the whole thing about gaming, about cigarettes, about white people making money on our lands and our resources," said Nelson.

But mostly, those in attendance came for the cheap cigarettes, which are marketed as chemical-free and all-natural.

"Why I want to try them is that they say they're all free of all the drugs and everything you get in the government cigarettes," Virden resident Dale Hrynko said after purchasing a full carton of cigarettes for $40, about half the going price in mainstream stores.

The smoke shop, licensed under the name Great Buffalo Nation Dakota and located about 100 kilometres southwest of Brandon, sells cigarettes produced by Rainbow Tobacco, a Mohawk company based on the Kahnawake Reserve near Montreal.

Plans were also underway for a Texas hold 'em tournament to start at 6 p.m. Wednesday -- despite the shop being neither provincially licensed for gaming nor for tobacco sales. There were to be five tables set up in a large backroom, with a $30 entry fee, a $3 buy-in and a 50-person limit. Approximately 100 VLTs that were being shipped into Manitoba from the United States for the opening were delayed, Brown said, due to problems with a funding arrangement and delivery.

Earlier in the morning, Manitoba Finance's taxation division taped a letter that was addressed to Brown to the front door of the shop, warning that the plans to open the shop Wednesday were potentially in violation of Manitoba laws. But Brown dismissed the province's warning and challenged provincial authorities to find a law that will force him to abide by Manitoba jurisdiction.

"Where is their legal document to say that it's their jurisdiction?" Brown said.

Canupawakpa Dakota First Nation is in a relatively rare situation in Manitoba. Brown said the band had a treaty with the British, but current members don't have official treaty status and are essentially considered refugees within Canada.

The band filed a claim in federal court against Ottawa several years ago, but nothing has come of it, he said. That's why the band decided to make the move aimed at getting itself prosecuted. Brown said that would allow the First Nation to argue its case in court and speed up the quest for treaty status.

Brown was charged with selling illegal cigarettes two years ago, but the charges were dropped.

The chief said he's not worried that setting up a gambling lounge and selling cheap cigarettes will exacerbate the reserve's social problems. The cigarettes they sell contain all the graphic warnings of a regular pack but aren't as addictive, he said.

"This is a very small step in establishing a better future for our people," said Dakota Plains First Nation Chief Orville Smoke, who has been leading the charge to open the store together with Brown. "To me the store and our endeavour in the last several months represent a source that will provide for my people, something that the federal government of this country cannot do."

No law enforcement officers attended the property while media were present. RCMP spokeswoman Sgt. Line Karpish said the RCMP would only assist the Finance Department if and when it chose any action against the First Nation. But she did say the RCMP were well aware of the smoke shop and gaming centre.

Provincial spokeswoman Jodee Mason issued a statement stating the province expects Brown "to follow the law and regulations in this private venture, just like everyone else."

-- Brandon Sun, with files from The Canadian Press

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Canupawakpa Dakota First Nation is in a relatively rare situation in Manitoba. Brown said the band had a treaty with the British, but current members don't have official treaty status and are essentially considered refugees within Canada.
Wait...what?
 

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Canupawakpa Dakota First Nation is in a relatively rare situation in Manitoba. Brown said the band had a treaty with the British, but current members don't have official treaty status and are essentially considered refugees within Canada.


Wait...what?
Amesty in Canada afforded by Queen Vic was far better for the Dakotah than being ripped to shreds by that psycho Custer and the Gatling gun.

It's time to make a deal.
 

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I wonder how this is sitting with the SVDN. This might not bode well with their bid to get out from under The Indian Act.
 

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Ya, that's a lot to take in in short order. I will go over it, but from the preamble it would appear to be an agreement to be recognized as a negotiating body.

I'm not as knowledgeable of western First Nations. But I have been following what material hits the net, on SVDN' bid to self govern, since I first heard of it last year. Not so much as a discussion interest, as apposed to just curiousity.
 

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God for them. It's a shame that ALL Natives don't tell the government to go to Hades, and refuse to honor ANY Canadian law at all.

Good for them
 

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First Nation smoke shop faces pressure to close

Friday, 11 November 2011 08:26 Illegal store sold out of cigarettes on first day CBC News
The First Nation operators of an unlicensed smoke shop and gambling lounge in western Manitoba are facing pressure from some groups to be shut down.

At least two national organizations are calling on the Manitoba government to crack down on the Dakota Chundee Smoke Shop, which opened on Wednesday about 80 kilometres southwest of Brandon.

Run by leaders from the Dakota Plains and Canupawakpa First Nations, the off-reserve shop sold out of cheap cigarettes on the first day.

The operators say the store had to close until it receives new product next week.

The Dakota Chundee Smoke Shop sold cigarettes from Mohawk distributors in Quebec for $40 a carton or $5 a pack, less than half the price for Manitoba.

The store's operators plan to have a casino-style poker lounge and video lottery terminals — all without a license, in the hopes of generating much-needed revenue for First Nation members.

But the Canadian Convenience Stores Association warned that many more illegal smoke shops could open in Manitoba if the provincial government does not enforce the law quickly with the Dakota Chundee Smoke Shop.

SETS 'dangerous precedent'

In a release issued Thursday, the association called on Premier Greg Selinger to "enforce current laws and avoid setting a dangerous precedent in the province with respect to the sale of contraband tobacco."

"We are certainly sympathetic to [native] rights, but not at the mercy of the hard-working and law-abiding convenience store owners who follow strict tobacco regulations and remit taxes but simply cannot compete with the illegal trade of contraband tobacco," Doug Hartl, vice-chair of the Western Convenience Stores Association, stated in the release.

The National Coalition Against Contraband Tobacco also called on the province on Thursday to inspect the Dakota Chundee Smoke Shop, saying the store must follow existing laws and regulations that apply to other Canadian businesses that sell tobacco products.
But Craig Blacksmith, who helped open the shop, said he and other operators are hoping to be arrested when they reopen next week, in part so the Canupawakpa First Nation can speed up a court battle to get treaty status.

The First Nations also want to prove that licenses issued by the Dakota Plains First Nation for the smoke shop and gambling operation are legal.

"We wanted to get arrested, actually, so that we could prove our point in court. Nothing has come of it yet," Blacksmith told CBC News on Thursday.

"We were ready to do that. We're going to fight for our people until things get settled."

The Manitoba government says it is talking with the First Nations involved with the smoke shop.

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The govt doesn't evenly enforce tobacco laws evenly across the country regarding Indians, but just because they don't, doesn't mean they shouldn't. Inconsistency is for international law, not for law within Canada. The principle of equality of citizens shouldn't be sacrificed for anyone or any group. Yet we do with rural votes in Quebec, which are worth more than votes in BC. Some are fine with this, I'm not.

For an Indian to say a right is traditional with modern technology like computers and trucks is just out of date. I just can't take it seriously. There is no mutual benefit here, that is, there is no benefit to Canada here. One small group of people get to beat the system for their own benefit.
 

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The govt doesn't evenly enforce tobacco laws evenly across the country regarding Indians, but just because they don't, doesn't mean they shouldn't.
What tobacco laws are being broken?

Inconsistency is for international law, not for law within Canada.
International law is pretty consistent, IMHO. While I've seen Canadian laws become quite flexible, and challenged back and forth until the SCC has to hear the case and render a final ruling.

The principle of equality of citizens shouldn't be sacrificed for anyone or any group. Yet we do with rural votes in Quebec, which are worth more than votes in BC. Some are fine with this, I'm not.
What does that have to do with First nations?

For an Indian to say a right is traditional with modern technology like computers and trucks is just out of date.
According to you. According to the law, Canadian law, it isn't.

I just can't take it seriously.
That's OK, no one I know on here, takes you seriously.

There is no mutual benefit here, that is, there is no benefit to Canada here.
First Nation tobacco manufacturers don't pay excise taxes? Don't pay non Native tobacco farmers? Don't employ people (First Nations and non Natives)?

One small group of people get to beat the system for their own benefit.
Kind sounds like how it used to work, before some of us took up reading law books.

Is it the fact that the tables got turned that has you in a tizzy?
 

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Laws regarding aboriginals, decided by a Canadian court, is not international law. It is a fairyland type of law that taxpayers support because the public is conned that social justice means giving billions of dollars to autocratic, unaccountable, unrepresentative aboriginal govts. To say such things is a cancer on the Canadian body politic and violates Canadian sovereignty.