News: Canada Cannot Reverse Population Aging With Immigration

dumpthemonarchy

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Not only is there no longer an economic argument for immigration, but immigration will not reverse population aging, what are called dependency ratios. Meaning more young people to pay for older people's pensions etc.


Mythbuster: The aging population


Mythbuster: The aging population






By Sam Cooper, The Province October 16, 2011




The confidential federal government report “Canada’s Changing Demographics: The Impacts of Population Aging” listed several myths that need to be shot down in order to understand the changes that have just started to be unleashed in Canada and across the world.




Myth: Population aging is just about people getting older.

Fact: It is a change in population age structure, so that the share of older persons grows while the share of younger persons shrinks. Longer lifespans contribute, but lower fertility is the main driver.


Myth: In Canada, aging will end with the passing of the baby boom.

Fact: While the baby boom will contribute to the rapid speed of population aging over the next 20 years, population aging is likely to continue. In 2061, when the youngest surviving boomers will be 95, Canada will still have 25 per cent seniors, compared to 14 per cent in 2009.


Myth: Canada can reverse population aging through immigration.

Fact: Immigration rates would need to more than double and potentially quintuple to maintain current age-population “dependency ratios.”


Myth: Aging is just a trend in developed countries.

Fact: By 2050, populations in developing countries will be aging so rapidly they are likely to have the same proportion of seniors as developed countries do today. These trends will impact geopolitics, the global economy and trade, and immigration, meaning a race will be on for countries to “get rich before getting old.”

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Cliffy

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Fact: Immigration rates would need to more than double and potentially quintuple to maintain current age-population “dependency ratios.”

Does this not blow your anti-immigration rant all to hell? Or would you prefer to knock off all the elderly instead?
 

mentalfloss

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Fact: Immigration rates would need to more than double and potentially quintuple to maintain current age-population “dependency ratios.”

Does this not blow your anti-immigration rant all to hell? Or would you prefer to knock off all the elderly instead?

This guy is seriously masochistic and will just keep coming back for more.
 

Johnnny

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In my opinion if everyone stopped living on credit or past their means and built themselves stable lives with their income. Then people would have more money and more stable lives to have kids in this country. And we seem to be taxed heavy too
 

mentalfloss

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The problems started when the libs raised taxes so high that both parents had to work and started haveing less children.

In that case I would thank them. Now let's start limiting households to two children max. We have enough "miracles" littering the place.
 

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The problems started when the libs raised taxes so high that both parents had to work and started haveing less children.

The problem is ocurring in most wealthy nations. It has nothing to do with taxes, far more to do with women's liberation movement, the transition from agricultural to knowledge based economies, and the move from rural to urban societies.
 

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Immigration is supposed to be the best economic solution we have. It''l bring in third world people to create jobs and pay for our old age. Does neither. Disagree and you hate Asians, funny. Multiculturalism and our immigration policies have a third world feel to them, they are for political reasons, not economic reasons.

Pre 1980, immigration was to fill jobs now, forget the future. Odd how we have these future crises consuming StatsCan and a whole industry supporting it. I doubt this is how disaster strikes.
 

Cliffy

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Immigration is supposed to be the best economic solution we have. It''l bring in third world people to create jobs and pay for our old age. Does neither. Disagree and you hate Asians, funny. Multiculturalism and our immigration policies have a third world feel to them, they are for political reasons, not economic reasons.

Pre 1980, immigration was to fill jobs now, forget the future. Odd how we have these future crises consuming StatsCan and a whole industry supporting it. I doubt this is how disaster strikes.
You can't or won't answer the questions: Does this not blow your anti-immigration rant all to hell? Or would you prefer to knock off all the elderly instead?
 

The Old Medic

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Nobody with a mind thinks that immigration will reverse the aging of the population. What is is doing is stopping the population from rapidly SHRINKING.

The simple fact is: CANADIANS ARE NOT EVEN COMING CLOSE TO REPLACING THEMSELVES.

Families are so small now, and people are waiting so long to have children, that the birth rate is smaller than the death rate. This leads to a rapid aging of the population.

Without the massive immigration efforts that Canada is engaging in, in about 20 years the country would be completely bankrupt, they could not take care of the seniors, and the entire country would soon fail.

The simple fact is, "White Canadians" are not having anywhere near enough children to replace the ones that are dying.

Just imagine, in about 50 years, Canada's "white people" will be a decided minority, and it will be 100% their own fault.

My people WILL get their revenge! Go Métis!
 

Durry

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Nobody with a mind thinks that immigration will reverse the aging of the population. What is is doing is stopping the population from rapidly SHRINKING.

The simple fact is: CANADIANS ARE NOT EVEN COMING CLOSE TO REPLACING THEMSELVES.

Families are so small now, and people are waiting so long to have children, that the birth rate is smaller than the death rate. This leads to a rapid aging of the population.

Without the massive immigration efforts that Canada is engaging in, in about 20 years the country would be completely bankrupt, they could not take care of the seniors, and the entire country would soon fail.

The simple fact is, "White Canadians" are not having anywhere near enough children to replace the ones that are dying.

Just imagine, in about 50 years, Canada's "white people" will be a decided minority, and it will be 100% their own fault.

My people WILL get their revenge! Go Métis!
Your right about our low replacement rate, I'm not sure about the revenge bit tho!!!
Immigration is definitely not the answer for the replacement of low birth rate. We have to find out why it is happening and what it will take to reverse the trend.