#121
Re: TENS - Taxed Enough Nova Scotians
Feb 26th, 2010
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TENS - Taxed Enough Nova Scotians
#122
Re: TENS - Taxed Enough Nova Scotians
Mar 1st, 2010
Being in Nova Scotia where we have soon to be the highest sales tax in the country and currently the 2nd highest income tax structure a movement like this can gain a lot of traction. Nowhere does the OP suggest that government services should be totally gutted or that taxes even be reduced (although I thnk they should be; not just in Nova Scotia but in other provinces and federally as well).
#123
Re: TENS - Taxed Enough Nova Scotians
Mar 1st, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by NSMark
I don’t know if Nova Scotia is running any deficit (but since many provinces are, I assume NS is running deficit as well).Being in Nova Scotia where we have soon to be the highest sales tax in the country and currently the 2nd highest income tax structure a movement like this can gain a lot of traction. Nowhere does the OP suggest that government services should be totally gutted or that taxes even be reduced (although I thnk they should be; not just in Nova Scotia but in other provinces and federally as well).
Now I don’t know about NS, but Ottawa is running a substantial deficit (though nowhere near what USA is running). In this situation, it will be irresponsible in the extreme to even talk of cutting taxes.
If anything, tax increase and spending cuts with the view of balancing the budget is required (or will be required shortly, once economy has sufficiently recovered).
#124
Re: TENS - Taxed Enough Nova Scotians
Mar 1st, 2010
" In this situation, it will be irresponsible in the extreme to even talk of cutting taxes."
I find it rather ironic that you are so in favour of taxes and yet taxes adversely affect the people who are on the low end of the income scale and yet when it comes to health care these are the people you seem most concerned out. LOL
I find it rather ironic that you are so in favour of taxes and yet taxes adversely affect the people who are on the low end of the income scale and yet when it comes to health care these are the people you seem most concerned out. LOL
#125
Re: TENS - Taxed Enough Nova Scotians
Mar 2nd, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by NSMark
Has anybody asked why they are giving you (what some here think is an honor) to be one the highest tax Provinces in the Commonwealth. What will the citizen gain from this tax? What do some want to do with this money?Being in Nova Scotia where we have soon to be the highest sales tax in the country and currently the 2nd highest income tax structure a movement like this can gain a lot of traction. Nowhere does the OP suggest that government services should be totally gutted or that taxes even be reduced (although I thnk they should be; not just in Nova Scotia but in other provinces and federally as well).
#126
Re: TENS - Taxed Enough Nova Scotians
Mar 2nd, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
I assume you are talking of user fees. User fee is not a tax, JLM. It is charge for a service, charged in such a way as to have harmful effects on the poor and middle class. But I have no problem with income tax (which hits the rich more than it hits the poor, which is as it should be)." In this situation, it will be irresponsible in the extreme to even talk of cutting taxes."
I find it rather ironic that you are so in favour of taxes and yet taxes adversely affect the people who are on the low end of the income scale and yet when it comes to health care these are the people you seem most concerned out. LOL
I am all for government raising reasonable revenue through taxes, but I am adamantly opposed to user fee in medicine (I have no problem with user fee for non essential services). In my opinion, medical care must be free at the point of delivery. Time to charge the patients is before the delivery, somewhere along the line (like through the income tax), but not at the point of delivery.
#127
Re: TENS - Taxed Enough Nova Scotians
Mar 2nd, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by ironsides
I assume that is because it is a very small province. With a smaller tax base, government has to tax the citizens more to provide the services people want. I think Newfoundland (another tiny province) also has a high tax rate (unless it has come down, now that they have oil)Has anybody asked why they are giving you (what some here think is an honor) to be one the highest tax Provinces in the Commonwealth. What will the citizen gain from this tax? What do some want to do with this money?
#128
Re: TENS - Taxed Enough Nova Scotians
Mar 2nd, 2010
Yes, but are the people asking for more improvements or is it the politicians? The discovery of oil sure has a way of reducing local taxes.
#129
Re: TENS - Taxed Enough Nova Scotians
Mar 2nd, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by ironsides
If I am reading this right, it pertains solely to the opinion of one poster. I personally feel I'm more qualified to speak to this issue being a member of the moderate income category, taxes are NOT an honour and they are NOT a solution to helping our country of a recession. Gov'ts are not particularly competent when it comes to spending money. Unemployment is the single biggest financial problem we have in this country and the way to cure that is to have a greater demand for goods and services. Who demands these good and services? The people of the country when they have the money in their pockets them. How is taking money out of their pockets going to put them in position to fill this demand?Has anybody asked why they are giving you (what some here think is an honor) to be one the highest tax Provinces in the Commonwealth. What will the citizen gain from this tax? What do some want to do with this money?
#131
Re: TENS - Taxed Enough Nova Scotians
Mar 5th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
I agree with what you say totally. Just that some people here think the answer to everything is that more taxes will solve everything, not realizing that this burden will fall upon the middle class. (poor will pay little or no tax and the rich will somehow get it reduced or get out of it altogether). If I am reading this right, it pertains solely to the opinion of one poster. I personally feel I'm more qualified to speak to this issue being a member of the moderate income category, taxes are NOT an honour and they are NOT a solution to helping our country of a recession. Gov'ts are not particularly competent when it comes to spending money. Unemployment is the single biggest financial problem we have in this country and the way to cure that is to have a greater demand for goods and services. Who demands these good and services? The people of the country when they have the money in their pockets them. How is taking money out of their pockets going to put them in position to fill this demand?
#132
Re: TENS - Taxed Enough Nova Scotians
Mar 5th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
If I am reading this right, it pertains solely to the opinion of one poster. I personally feel I'm more qualified to speak to this issue being a member of the moderate income category, taxes are NOT an honour and they are NOT a solution to helping our country of a recession. Gov'ts are not particularly competent when it comes to spending money. Unemployment is the single biggest financial problem we have in this country and the way to cure that is to have a greater demand for goods and services. Who demands these good and services? The people of the country when they have the money in their pockets them. How is taking money out of their pockets going to put them in position to fill this demand?
That is the classic supply side economics, cut taxes, everything else will take care of itself.
Now, that may have worked sometime in the long past. However, every time it has been tried in the recent memory, if has been an unmitigated disaster. It has shot the deficit sky high, every time it has been tried.
But conservatives never seem to learn from experience, they still tout the same old mantra of tax cuts. Well, in my opinion it is irresponsible in the extreme to demand tax cuts without saying where the money is to be found, what spending cuts you would do to balance the budget. Would you cut health care, would you cut defense, would you cut payment to battered wives shelter? What?
When you demand tax cuts without specifying spending cuts, that tells me that you are simply spouting classical conservative philosophy, tax cuts at any price, hang the debt and the deficit.
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