A Mad Mulligan
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June 5th, 2007, 01:56 PM
Quoting triedit
The same can be said about Americans in Iraq. And a few other countries I might add.
Don't call me Shirley!
Seriously though, they aren't endangered, they are often pests, and they roam uncontrolled even when laws exist. Im fine with rounding up strays and euthenizing them.
Seriously though, they aren't endangered, they are often pests, and they roam uncontrolled even when laws exist. Im fine with rounding up strays and euthenizing them.
Knows Too Much
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June 5th, 2007, 08:52 PM
I call shenanigans on you for this.
1.) If a cat gets some STD so be it, I hope you don't go neutering people so they don't get STD's. Wild animal, not native to the area true, but wild animal.
2.) Feral cats can lead long, long lives. Same as any wild animal, while not as long as a domestic cat I fail to see the point. Wild horses do not lead as long as tame horses and can get sick and injured just the same, but no one would suggestion rounding up all the wild mustangs.
Feral cats can live generations without human interference, I grew up a country kid in farm country and there were plenty of wild cats who never came around humans at all, they are well equiped to live in the wild.
Contrary to popular belief nature is full of food, it is literally made of food (even for people). In fact the whole problem with feral cats is that they are TOO well equiped. They are TOO sucessfuly in nature. The lead long fruitful lives and have many, many kittens (who in turn have even more kittens). IN doing so they destroy the natural ecosystem.
Quoting Twila
You think it's cruel and inhumane to neuter a male cat to prevent disease and painful abcesses that cause a painful death? And stops the transmission of FIV (feline aids) and feline luekemia. You think it's better they die a slow painful death because of human negligence? You think it's better that a mother cat bring litter upon litter into the world and then die a slow painful death by age 2? A feral cat can hope to live to the age of 2 maybe 3 with luck without human interferance. They live horrible miserable lives. The domestic cat is NOT a wild cat. They are completely different. Just ask any conservation centre which is trying to keep real wild cats from going exctinct and from being interbred with our domestic cats for designer breeds such as the bengel.
Now if you still think this form of prevention iss cruel, your weird.
Now if you still think this form of prevention iss cruel, your weird.
I call shenanigans on you for this.
1.) If a cat gets some STD so be it, I hope you don't go neutering people so they don't get STD's. Wild animal, not native to the area true, but wild animal.
2.) Feral cats can lead long, long lives. Same as any wild animal, while not as long as a domestic cat I fail to see the point. Wild horses do not lead as long as tame horses and can get sick and injured just the same, but no one would suggestion rounding up all the wild mustangs.
Feral cats can live generations without human interference, I grew up a country kid in farm country and there were plenty of wild cats who never came around humans at all, they are well equiped to live in the wild.
Contrary to popular belief nature is full of food, it is literally made of food (even for people). In fact the whole problem with feral cats is that they are TOO well equiped. They are TOO sucessfuly in nature. The lead long fruitful lives and have many, many kittens (who in turn have even more kittens). IN doing so they destroy the natural ecosystem.
A Mad Mulligan
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June 5th, 2007, 10:14 PM
Quoting Zzarchov
I ain't shooting any horses Mack!
I call shenanigans on you for this.
1.) If a cat gets some STD so be it, I hope you don't go neutering people so they don't get STD's. Wild animal, not native to the area true, but wild animal.
2.) Feral cats can lead long, long lives. Same as any wild animal, while not as long as a domestic cat I fail to see the point. Wild horses do not lead as long as tame horses and can get sick and injured just the same, but no one would suggestion rounding up all the wild mustangs.
Feral cats can live generations without human interference, I grew up a country kid in farm country and there were plenty of wild cats who never came around humans at all, they are well equiped to live in the wild.
Contrary to popular belief nature is full of food, it is literally made of food (even for people). In fact the whole problem with feral cats is that they are TOO well equiped. They are TOO sucessfuly in nature. The lead long fruitful lives and have many, many kittens (who in turn have even more kittens). IN doing so they destroy the natural ecosystem.
1.) If a cat gets some STD so be it, I hope you don't go neutering people so they don't get STD's. Wild animal, not native to the area true, but wild animal.
2.) Feral cats can lead long, long lives. Same as any wild animal, while not as long as a domestic cat I fail to see the point. Wild horses do not lead as long as tame horses and can get sick and injured just the same, but no one would suggestion rounding up all the wild mustangs.
Feral cats can live generations without human interference, I grew up a country kid in farm country and there were plenty of wild cats who never came around humans at all, they are well equiped to live in the wild.
Contrary to popular belief nature is full of food, it is literally made of food (even for people). In fact the whole problem with feral cats is that they are TOO well equiped. They are TOO sucessfuly in nature. The lead long fruitful lives and have many, many kittens (who in turn have even more kittens). IN doing so they destroy the natural ecosystem.
Ponderous Intellect
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June 5th, 2007, 10:16 PM
Well Zzarchov, you can call whatever you want. BTW feline leukemia is not a STD. FIV is transmitted throught saliva and blood in male to male fights. Not through sexual intercourse in cats.
A farm out in the middle of the country is a vastly different location then a city, yes? So a feral cat in the country is going to not suffer the way a feral cat in the city suffers. I don't trap in the country. I trap in the city.
Well Zzarchov, you can call whatever you want. BTW feline leukemia is not a STD. FIV is transmitted throught saliva and blood in male to male fights. Not through sexual intercourse in cats.
A farm out in the middle of the country is a vastly different location then a city, yes? So a feral cat in the country is going to not suffer the way a feral cat in the city suffers. I don't trap in the country. I trap in the city.
Ponderous Intellect
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June 5th, 2007, 10:17 PM
Quote:
They have programs where they DO round up SOME of the mustangs and sell them. For they're own good. To the keep healthy populations.
Wild horses do not lead as long as tame horses and can get sick and injured just the same, but no one would suggestion rounding up all the wild mustangs.
Knows Too Much
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June 6th, 2007, 11:15 PM
Then what you have is a Stray, raised by people and now abandoned. They also aren't what you can hunt under these new rules (you cant fire guns into the city)
Quoting Twila
Well Zzarchov, you can call whatever you want. BTW feline leukemia is not a STD. FIV is transmitted throught saliva and blood in male to male fights. Not through sexual intercourse in cats.
A farm out in the middle of the country is a vastly different location then a city, yes? So a feral cat in the country is going to not suffer the way a feral cat in the city suffers. I don't trap in the country. I trap in the city.
A farm out in the middle of the country is a vastly different location then a city, yes? So a feral cat in the country is going to not suffer the way a feral cat in the city suffers. I don't trap in the country. I trap in the city.
Then what you have is a Stray, raised by people and now abandoned. They also aren't what you can hunt under these new rules (you cant fire guns into the city)
Newbie
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April 11th, 2008, 09:15 AM
Forget the hunters, they can't compare to Halifax city council.
They passes an anti cat by-law that essentially made it illegal for them to be outside. Any cat found outside would be sent to a pound for euthanization. The odd thing was that these councillors did not look into funding the pound or enforcement of the by-law before passing it.
If the by-law they passed was actually enforced, 10's of thousands of cats would of been euthanized. Fortuntely they are so incompetent that the lack of a facility to kill the cats or any employees in place to hunt all the cats has prevented this mass slaughter from occuring so far.
Councillor David Hendsbee, Linda Mosher, Andrew Younger, Jim Smith and Krista Snow are still trying to make it a realty though ! Fortuntely they don't have as many lives as a cat, there's a municiple elction in October 2008.
More info on the cat-by law here fyf: http://www.geocities.com/hrmcouncil/
Forget the hunters, they can't compare to Halifax city council.
They passes an anti cat by-law that essentially made it illegal for them to be outside. Any cat found outside would be sent to a pound for euthanization. The odd thing was that these councillors did not look into funding the pound or enforcement of the by-law before passing it.
If the by-law they passed was actually enforced, 10's of thousands of cats would of been euthanized. Fortuntely they are so incompetent that the lack of a facility to kill the cats or any employees in place to hunt all the cats has prevented this mass slaughter from occuring so far.
Councillor David Hendsbee, Linda Mosher, Andrew Younger, Jim Smith and Krista Snow are still trying to make it a realty though ! Fortuntely they don't have as many lives as a cat, there's a municiple elction in October 2008.
More info on the cat-by law here fyf: http://www.geocities.com/hrmcouncil/
Mighty Intellect
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April 11th, 2008, 10:30 AM
Even though this thread IS 3 years old, it's still valid.........unfortunately. Lots of talk and not much action when it comes to pet protection.....same as kids eh!
A friend of ours had to quit the humane society, as she was coming home crying every night. Killing of dogs, cats, and rabbits finally got to her.
Even though this thread IS 3 years old, it's still valid.........unfortunately. Lots of talk and not much action when it comes to pet protection.....same as kids eh!A friend of ours had to quit the humane society, as she was coming home crying every night. Killing of dogs, cats, and rabbits finally got to her.
Ponderous Intellect
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April 11th, 2008, 10:42 AM
Hey Nugg how's it goin ya handsome devil!?
I'd hope that parents would SMARTEN UP! Just because toilet paper manufacturers use cute little kittens to sell arsewipe and "happiness" is a "warm puppy" there's got to be more intervention and prevention in parents giving their children pets that become too much of a burden and then are abandoned. Take the money being spent on useless and wasteful nonsense like the Mulroney/Shreiber bafflegab and to after the puppy mills and the cat suppliers who contribute to the problem.
Hey Nugg how's it goin ya handsome devil!?
I'd hope that parents would SMARTEN UP! Just because toilet paper manufacturers use cute little kittens to sell arsewipe and "happiness" is a "warm puppy" there's got to be more intervention and prevention in parents giving their children pets that become too much of a burden and then are abandoned. Take the money being spent on useless and wasteful nonsense like the Mulroney/Shreiber bafflegab and to after the puppy mills and the cat suppliers who contribute to the problem.
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April 11th, 2008, 11:53 AM
I predict that stray pets will not be a problem this time next year. In light of that you should order my book-------Cooking Domestic Pets-----sandwich goldfish and canarys, pot roast kitty, retriever la orange, shepard pie, hamster pot pie all your favourite post depression dishes.
fish bowl gravey,
I predict that stray pets will not be a problem this time next year. In light of that you should order my book-------Cooking Domestic Pets-----sandwich goldfish and canarys, pot roast kitty, retriever la orange, shepard pie, hamster pot pie all your favourite post depression dishes.
fish bowl gravey,
