Executing Gays is A-OK: United Nations

FiveParadox

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In an absolutely abhorrent move, the General Assembly of the United Nations has voted to remove being gay as a reason to condemn executions. The condemnation has included homosexuality for the last ten years, but the Kingdom of Morocco moved an amendment removing any references to gays, and the amendment passed by 9 votes: 79-70, with ten abstentions. Particularly shocking, though, is the fact that FIVE of those countries favouring the amendment were Realms of the Commonwealth of Nations, with our same shared constitutional monarchy, and there were FIVE Commonwealth Realms who abstained or just weren't there. And remember, these are just the Realms--there were many other Commonwealth countries who no longer have Her Majesty as head of State, who favoured the amendment, too.

Commonwealth nations should seek to be an example to the world, and particularly the Realms; we should feverishly condemn the Commonwealth of the Bahamas, Jamaica, Saint Christopher and Nevis, Saint Lucia, and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines for having voted clearly contrary to the purpose and interests of the Commonwealth. We should also condemn Antigua and Barbuda, Barbados, the Independent State of Papua New Guinea, and Tuvalu, for having stood on the fence, and where the heck were the Solomon Islands?

This is unacceptable.

And for the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan to have favoured the amendment, too--when they seek our help in restoring order and protecting human rights--is a complete joke, not to mention the decision of the Republic of Haïti to do the same. I encourage members to communicate outrage with The Honourable Lawrence Cannon P.C., M.P. (Pontiac), the Minister of Foreign Affairs, your honourable senators and members of the House of Commons, and even the governments of the above nations. One step forward, two steps back, it would seem.

Who can you contact?
  • The Hon. Lawrence Cannon
    • ph 1 (613) 992-5516
    • em send the minister an e-mail
  • Members of the Senate (current senators)
  • Members of the House of Commons (current members)
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CurioToo

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While I always agreed with the "concept" of the U.N. .....

.....the body of pompous fools has become the joke of the century..... a most expensive joke as well. The U.S. has paid for their military stationed since 1953 between the two Koreas to defer fighting and now they are encouraging it. They seem to believe the U.S. is their
personal fighting force.

No doubt declaration of a new "conflict" would reward them with more unaccounted for funding.....perhaps they need more money to function in their limited capacity as world "peace brokers".

They should have been disbanded years ago when it was clear their name was a misnomer.
 

Unforgiven

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The move to the right wing is a world wide stance. A time will come when things change again and the usual right wing fascists will froth and rage over how the world is going to hell in a hand basket yet again. As an aside, having the UN sanction your country means about as much as getting a good frowning from the old bat with all the cats down by the liquor store.
 

Trotz

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The United Nations was ran by a Nazi for almost a decade.

Kurt Waldheim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


It's an useless institution. The U.N. has no binding authority and thus derives its power from a horizontal relationship with its member states, most notably the United States, who should have killed it off long ago and returned to bilateral agreements (instead of unilateralism under George Bush).

Universalists have claimed that the U.N. and International Law is good; however, we never needed the U.N. when Britain had illegalized slavery and seized vessels transporting slaves.

In that, the United Nations' pluralistic approach has become an impedment to spreading western values, namely by tolerating goof balls like Gaddafi and the moron Ahmadinejad.
I kid you not, had the United Nations existed in the 1810s, they would have labelled Great Britain as a "pariah" state for interfering with other nations' rights to own and possess slaves.

Likewise, the "United Nations Peacekeeping Force" - while it keeps the peace, also props up dictators in Haiti, Africa, et al, essentially the U.N. conspires to rob nations of their politicial independence.

Much like if the United States were ever to balkanize, there would be "blue helmets" propping up a Washington Government, thankfully blue does not camouflage and, judging by the European peacekeepers in Yugoslavia, Europeans don't exactly make good "Peacekeepers", in that they're hesitant to shoot at people!
 
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mentalfloss

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While this is abhorrent, what's worse is that the U.N. lets the U.S. dictate global policy.
 

Trotz

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The United Nations is a pluralistic institution, as I mentioned above.

The distinction was, until the 1970s, the General Assembly at best paid lip service to the 'Global South' (whom then were either puppet regimes, like Pinochet in Chile, Soviet Puppets that could be disregarded, or were technical colonies under Britain and France and were not in the UN).

Essentially, by expanding the U.N. Club, you have effectively turnt it from an European-American institution (China nor India weren't exactly involved much), one which espoused human rights, emancipation, women's rights, and since handed it over to the religious and tribal fundalmentals, who effectively run every country in Africa, the Middle East and Southern Asia.

Before we know it, the U.N. will probably be defending enslavement in Niger... sigh...
 

mentalfloss

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WHERE do you get this stuff???????

The UN lets the USA dictate global policy.....riigghhhhtttttt!

:)

It is not enough for a hegemonic power to declare an official policy. It must establish it as a “new norm of international law” by exemplary action. Distinguished commentators may then explain that law is a flexible, living instrument, ensuring that the new norm is available as a guide to action. It is understood that only those with the guns can establish “norms” and modify international law.

The selected target must meet several conditions. It must be defenseless, important enough to be worth the trouble, and an imminent threat to our survival and ulitimate evil nature. Iraq qualified on all counts. The first two conditions are obvious. For the third, it suffices to repeat the orations of Bush, Blair, and their colleagues: The dictator “is assembling the world’s most dangerous weapons [in order to] dominate, intimidate or attack”; and he “has already used them on whole villages leaving thousands of his own citizens dead, blind or transfigured. . . . If this is not evil then evil has no meaning.”

Despite its narrow successes, the intensive propaganda campaign left the public unswayed in more fundamental respects. Most continue to prefer U.N. rather than U.S. leadership in international crises, and by two to one prefer that the U.N., rather than the United States, should direct reconstruction in Iraq.11

Dominance and its Dilemmas
 

petros

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Hey Colpy......what if Assange was gay and had a gay bar slu t relationship that was being used as a scandal instead of a female bar s lut? Would he still be fair game?
 

Colpy

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Hey Colpy......what if Assange was gay and had a gay bar slu t relationship that was being used as a scandal instead of a female bar s lut? Would he still be fair game?

I don't give a damn about who Assange screws where or whether or not he uses a condom......the charges from Sweden are so obviously a joke that it is ridiculous........somebody should just quit playing games and shoot the moron through the head.

And what does this have to do with the scum at the UN bowing to Islam to declare "Death to Gays"??????????
 

Trotz

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What's wrong with the United States dictating international law? After all, it was Great Britain who dictated an end to enslavement and by consequence, many "Americans" (that people of African descent) were eventually freed as a result of Britain.


The problem with the United Nations' is that its ardent supporters are Universalists (aka. Marxists) who believe that all member states are equal and that its institutions serve to enhance human rights; when in reality, its painfully obvious that pluralism is trumping in the U.N's General Assembly.
 

Avro

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What's wrong with the United States dictating international law? After all, it was Great Britain who dictated an end to enslavement and by consequence, many "Americans" (that people of African descent) were eventually freed as a result of Britain.

Why?

It's hypocrisy.
 

Trotz

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This is true, whereyn, the United States hasn't done much regarding George Bush and his associations with the human rights abuses that have occurred in Afghanistan and Iraq. The lack of action from the Obama administration also casts doubts in my mind as to the workings of representative democracy in the United States.

Pleasantries aside, neither Iraq nor Afghanistan had elected governments until 2005 and even then they were not free elections as neither the Ba'ath, or even a poltiical front of the Taliban, were allowed to run in the elections.

Much like NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia was obviously a contradiction in 2(4), whereyn, NATO broke that rule in bombing Yugoslavia, even though the latter proved no threat to us.
 

petros

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I don't give a damn about who Assange screws where or whether or not he uses a condom......the charges from Sweden are so obviously a joke that it is ridiculous........somebody should just quit playing games and shoot the moron through the head.

And what does this have to do with the scum at the UN bowing to Islam to declare "Death to Gays"??????????
You don't like democratic voting in the UN?

Are all of these nations Islamic?

Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belize, Benin, Botswana, Brunei Dar-Salam, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, China, Comoros, Congo, Cote d’Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Ghana, Guyana, Haiti, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and Grenadines, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Africa, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Syrian Arab Republic, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, United Republic of Tanzania, Uzbekistan, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.

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Colpy

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You don't like democratic voting in the UN?

Are all of these nations Islamic?

Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belize, Benin, Botswana, Brunei Dar-Salam, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, China, Comoros, Congo, Cote d’Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Ghana, Guyana, Haiti, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and Grenadines, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Africa, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Syrian Arab Republic, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, United Republic of Tanzania, Uzbekistan, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.

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Quick count.....

You list 76 states.

41 of them have a majority Muslim population.

47 nations on earth are listed with a majority Muslim population.

I stand by my statement.....almost all Muslim majority nations voted to cease condemning executions on the basis of sexual preference........and they made up over half of the nations that voted in that manner.