#1Sep 2nd, 2010
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Sep 2nd, 2010
You wouldn't be equating progressives like Obama to a snake oil salesman would ya??????
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Sep 2nd, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper
Would I do such a thing?You wouldn't be equating progressives like Obama to a snake oil salesman would ya??????
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Sep 2nd, 2010
What has this got to do with Obama? The cartoon is clearly some of the anti-communist propaganda typical of the late 40s and early 50s. It eventually culminated in the extremism of the McCarthy era and an end to many of the freedoms the cartoon espoused during its first few minutes.
Did anyone check out the background of Harding College (Now Harding University) to see what it was all about? Here is a link, you might find it enlightening. --
BTW Obama is a moderate conservative by Canadian standards. Only in the US would someone with his background and philosophy be considered liberal.
Did anyone check out the background of Harding College (Now Harding University) to see what it was all about? Here is a link, you might find it enlightening. --
BTW Obama is a moderate conservative by Canadian standards. Only in the US would someone with his background and philosophy be considered liberal.
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Sep 2nd, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister
What doesn't it?What has this got to do with Obama?
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You mean McCarty-ism.The cartoon is clearly some of the anti-communist propaganda typical of the late 40s and early 50s. It eventually culminated in the extremism of the McCarthy era and an end to many of the freedoms the cartoon espoused during its first few minutes.
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Nope, since Harding College/University is irrelevant to the message.Did anyone check out the background of Harding College (Now Harding University) to see what it was all about? Here is a link, you might find it enlightening. --
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I absolutely agree. I've been saying that since his campaign started.BTW Obama is a moderate conservative by Canadian standards.
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Only in Canada would Harper be considered right wing. Only in the US would someone with his background and philosophy be considered liberal.
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Sep 2nd, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear
It may have to do with his head being stuck up the Republican butt, but that is only a guess.Only in Canada would Harper be considered right wing.
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Sep 3rd, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy
Obama's a Republican?It may have to do with his head being stuck up the Republican butt, but that is only a guess.
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Sep 3rd, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear
You think Harpy has his head up Obama's butt? Na! It would taste too liberal for him. Besides, you know as well as I, Obama is just the same as Bush but he wears sheep's clothing. The fangs are the same, they are just capped with wax.Obama's a Republican?
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Sep 3rd, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy
Your post would indicate that you did. Since Obama is in the White House, it would be the position of the President of the United States that Harper would be curling up to. Not the deposed political party.You think Harpy has his head up Obama's butt?
Or does that fact not factor into the rhetoric and silliness?
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Really? Harper is actually a little further left then Obama actually.Na! It would taste too liberal for him.
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Sep 3rd, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear
What doesn't it?
You mean McCarty-ism.
Nope, since Harding College/University is irrelevant to the message.
I absolutely agree. I've been saying that since his campaign started.
Only in Canada would Harper be considered right wing.
I said McCarthy era. Believe it or not that is where McCarthyism came from.
The source of the video is not relevant to the message? Isn't that like saying that what comes our of you mouth is irrelevant to the message? Harding University is a right wing ultra-religious institution. The cartoon accurately reflected its anti-communist values. Note that in spite of its spiel about the great American freedoms including freedom of speech the film ended with the citizens attacking the spokesperson they disagreed with.
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Sep 3rd, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister
Wow!!! No way!!! Say it isn't so!!! I said McCarthy era. Believe it or not that is where McCarthyism came from.
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Did you miss the title of the thread?The source of the video is not relevant to the message? Isn't that like saying that what comes our of you mouth is irrelevant to the message? Harding University is a right wing ultra-religious institution. The cartoon accurately reflected its anti-communist values. Note that in spite of its spiel about the great American freedoms including freedom of speech the film ended with the citizens attacking the spokesperson they disagreed with.
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Sep 3rd, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear
Well, perhaps maybe Sweden, Oz, Norway, China, Brazil, Russia, Ireland, etc. might be considered a bit left-wing, too. At least as far as being progressive goes, anyway.Only in Canada would Harper be considered right wing.
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Sep 4th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear
Apparently the first two posts after the original were meaningless. Sorry I missed that.Wow!!! No way!!! Say it isn't so!!!
Did you miss the title of the thread?
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Sep 4th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by L Gilbert
Unfortunately, those aren't nations, with whom our PM is oft compared, or measured against.Well, perhaps maybe Sweden, Oz, Norway, China, Brazil, Russia, Ireland, etc. might be considered a bit left-wing, too. At least as far as being progressive goes, anyway.
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Sorry you missed a lot.Apparently the first two posts after the original were meaningless. Sorry I missed that.
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Sep 4th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear
When you don't duck the obvious...it becomes clear non?Unfortunately, those aren't nations, with whom our PM is oft compared, or measured against.
Sorry you missed a lot.
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Sep 4th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper
Oui!When you don't duck the obvious...it becomes clear non?
Some people just can't wrap their heads around that.
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Sep 5th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear
Goodness, Bear. And I mistakenly thought you were going to attempt meaningful and intelligent replies. Sorry for actually thinking that your PM meant something.Sorry you missed a lot.
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Sep 5th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister
Condescension will get you what you deserve, if you can't handle it, don't do it .Goodness, Bear. And I mistakenly thought you were going to attempt meaningful and intelligent replies. Sorry for actually thinking that your PM meant something.
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Sep 6th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear
Condescension will get you what you deserve, if you can't handle it, don't do it .
It is extremely difficult not to be condescending when replying to a twit like you. Regard this as the last time I reply to anything you post. There are two other forum members I ignore due to the fact that their posts usually make no sense. I will add you to the list simply because of your complete lack of manners.
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Sep 6th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear
Some oversimplification and over-generalization aside, good video overall.YouTube - Make Mine Freedom 194
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Oh yes, the oversimplification I was referring to. Still, seeing that I do lean at least a little more towards capitalism than socialism, it's hard to criticize it. But yes, I do agree it has biases.What has this got to do with Obama? The cartoon is clearly some of the anti-communist propaganda typical of the late 40s and early 50s. It eventually culminated in the extremism of the McCarthy era and an end to many of the freedoms the cartoon espoused during its first few minutes.
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Re: The more things change, the more they stay the same...
Sep 6th, 2010
Some people, not I, say freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. I guess one really understands what freedom is after an era like the red scare and McCarthyism.
I didn't witness that, but I am living through another age of creeping limited freedoms, though I think it's a pull and push from both ends on that spectrum.
I didn't witness that, but I am living through another age of creeping limited freedoms, though I think it's a pull and push from both ends on that spectrum.
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Sep 6th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Tonington
The news is deigned to terrify the general population so that they will beg for more restrictions on their freedoms in the false assumption that they will be safer. It is an extremely poor trade off as in the end we will have a police state with no freedoms. But that is what people want, or more correctly, that is what they have been brainwashed into thinking they want. That is why Beck and the other right wing lunatics are so popular with the paranoid crowd.Some people, not I, say freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. I guess one really understands what freedom is after an era like the red scare and McCarthyism.
I didn't witness that, but I am living through another age of creeping limited freedoms, though I think it's a pull and push from both ends on that spectrum.
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