The benefits of socialism.

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Said1

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A decree published on Christmas Eve states that commercial centers may operate from 11:00 am to 9:00 pm on the electricity grid, but beyond that establishments would have to operate off-grid, using their own generators.
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Slightly harsher than 'peak hour' pricing. Does the mall really need to open later than 9pm anyway?
 
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''You're off your rocker Walt.''


Yes, Walter is Obama's biggest hater in this forum. And he still hasn't offered even the slightest solution to improve his administration at all.
 
countryboy

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taxslave said:
Socialism at it's finest. This is what life in Alberta would look like after two years with an NDP government.
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Whoa, I think there are way too many hard-working, common sense, results-driven, clear thinking, able-minded people who tend to mind their own business in Alberta to be concerned with that chilling scenario becoming reality anytime soon.
 
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countryboy said:
Whoa, I think there are way too many hard-working, common sense, results-driven, clear thinking, able-minded people who tend to mind their own business in Alberta to be concerned with that chilling scenario becoming reality anytime soon.
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That is why they do not have a dipper government. All the freeloaders from across Canada came to B.C. when the dippers were giving away tax dollars to anyone that did not want to work. And most of them are still here.
 
JLM

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I think Socialism is the perfect form of Gov't. when the entire population is agreed on a common goal and is determined to pull his/her weight plus 5% and is willing to share the liabilities as well as the assets.
 
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Hell years ago during world war two we had rationing of everything and there was no socialism here. As late as 1946 rationing was still part of everyday life in Canada.
There is drought coming like it did during the great depression and we had better get ready to make serious sacrifices. Socialism is not a big scary abstract thing at
all. The problem with Capitalism. and Socialism is they become blended visions of
each other. I like progressive left of center policies, administered through
conservative fiscal policy. Tommy Douglas was a master at it. Today we have a
conservative government trying to maintain social programs without the balance of
fiscal policy. The Tories gave out all those tax breaks to business and the wealthy
and now they don't have the money to meet their responsibility to the average
citizen. Don't tell me about a world wide recession, the conservatives behaved like
we were never going to have a down turn, they reduced taxes for the privileged
and now they're in a bind, looks good on them. If we combined aspects of free
market and socialist policy, we would be a lot better off than we are now.
The problem is free market parties, try to fit their ideology into the social programs
of today and it doesn't work. Medicare, and Canada Pensions, Family Allowance and
so on were never meant to be for profit programs. This Socialist scare is really over
the top.
 
Francis2004

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Walter said:
Venezuela begins 2010 with electricity rationing
Jan 2 03:35 PM US/Eastern

Oil-rich Venezuela ushered in 2010 with new measures rationing electricity use in malls, businesses and billboards, as Hugo Chavez's government aimed to save power.

Venezuela begins 2010 with electricity rationing

This is what the Bamster wants for the US.
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First of all, let's call a spade a spade...

Chavez is a dictator ...

His style of Government is closer to bad communism then socialism.. Grabbing and taking control of companies is more in line with the above mentioned..

Can you provide a link to prove Obama is planning to ration Electricity to the US soon ?
 
JLM

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damngrumpy said:
Hell years ago during world war two we had rationing of everything and there was no socialism here. As late as 1946 rationing was still part of everyday life in Canada.
There is drought coming like it did during the great depression and we had better get ready to make serious sacrifices. Socialism is not a big scary abstract thing at
all. The problem with Capitalism. and Socialism is they become blended visions of
each other. I like progressive left of center policies, administered through
conservative fiscal policy. Tommy Douglas was a master at it. Today we have a
conservative government trying to maintain social programs without the balance of
fiscal policy. The Tories gave out all those tax breaks to business and the wealthy
and now they don't have the money to meet their responsibility to the average
citizen. Don't tell me about a world wide recession, the conservatives behaved like
we were never going to have a down turn, they reduced taxes for the privileged
and now they're in a bind, looks good on them. If we combined aspects of free
market and socialist policy, we would be a lot better off than we are now.
The problem is free market parties, try to fit their ideology into the social programs
of today and it doesn't work. Medicare, and Canada Pensions, Family Allowance and
so on were never meant to be for profit programs. This Socialist scare is really over
the top.
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Maybe the rich deserve the bulk of the tax cuts as they pay the bulk of the taxes. I know as an average income recipient the wife and I pay very little taxes since Harper brought in the income splitting. Before everyone is going to be happy with taxes first of all we have to arrive at a consensus on what people want the Gov't. to provide. If people want to smoke, drink and eat junk food and want full medical coverage then there has to be an onerous level of tax. Do we want to be able to call 911 and have help at our door in three minutes? Gonna cost us money.
 
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The truth is Chavez is a lot of things but he is not a dictator. He was elected by the people in landslide the first term. America calls him a dictator, but the fact is there
was a military take over and a counter coup that kept him in power. He has the
power behind him, namely the poor, and if they come out it will allow him to stay in
power only by winning at the ballot box; In that country the poor rarely voted and
many were not eligible to vote, Chavez gave them the right to vote. Once again
Chavez was elected therefore he is not a dictator, he came to power at the ballot
box.
 
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Ah but the sheeple who read and watch only the corporate news are just parroting what they are being told. Gawd, people who can't think for themselves annoy the rest of us! :cool::lol:
 
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Cliffy said:
Ah but the sheeple who read and watch only the corporate news are just parroting what they are being told. Gawd, people who can't think for themselves annoy the rest of us! :cool::lol:
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I have lived so long, the people we've been encouraged to hate have changed so often, I am beginning to think my betters are no better!
 
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Spade said:
I have lived so long, the people we've been encouraged to hate have changed so often, I am beginning to think my betters are no better!
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Your betters are only legends in their own minds. If people would wake up to the fact that there is no one to look up to, we might get somewhere.
 
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