Spain grabs miles of British waters to carry out 'environmental protection'

Blackleaf

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Spain is still at it regarding Gibraltar.

Last week, the Royal Navy vessel HMS Sabre, a Scimitar-class fast patrol boat, which has been a part of the Gibraltar squadron since 2003, chased away a Spanish warship out of Gibraltarean - and British - waters (it doesn't bode well for Spain if all out war ensues against Britain if its warships are scared off by a Royal Navy vessel that's nothing more than a patrol boat).

The Spanish are trying to claim the seas around the rock - in the name of the environment.

Incredibly, the EU has granted Spain legal rights over British waters surrounding Gibraltar (though it's really no different from the EU allowing Spanish and other vessels to catch fish in British waters off the coast of the UK itself).

Despite this, the Royal Navy will still repel any Spanish warships entering British warships, no matter what the Spanish or the corrupt, unelected oafs who run the EU think.

Now both Britain and Gibraltar are protesting against this, and Royal Navy and Spanish ships have clashed off Gibraltar.

All this despite the fact that Gibraltar is, by rights, a British possession due to the Treaty of Utrecht (which gave Gibraltar to Britain "in perpetuity" - or for eternity) and the fact that the overwhelming majority of its people wish to remain British.

Gibraltar ambush: Spain grabs miles of British waters to carry out 'environmental protection'

By Simon Mcgee
31st May 2009
Daily Mail



They've tried invasion, diplomacy and downright skulduggery to grab a piece of Gibraltar during the past 300 years.

But now the Spanish have played their trump card by laying claim to 20 square miles of sea around the Rock...in the name of the environment.

And it seems to have worked – for the moment, at least. For the EU has granted Spain legal rights over British waters surrounding Gibraltar.



Repel the invaders: HMS Sabre forced a Spanish warship out of Gibraltar's waters


But the move has sparked protests from Britain and the Gibraltar government and led to a confrontation between Royal Navy and Spanish warships.

The grab for the section of British Gibraltar Territorial Waters (BGTW) came about when Spain convinced the European Commission to include Gibraltar’s waters within a new 69sq mile EU marine conservation area called the Estrecho Oriental, to be maintained by Spain.

However, under EU law, only the member state with sovereignty over the land or sea in question can apply for it to be designated an EU conservation site – meaning the EU has recognised Spain’s possession of British water.



The designation requires Spain to undertake environmental protection work within
the specified area, handing it an excuse in EU law for its ships to mount incursions into British waters.

Gibraltar has been a key strategic asset since it was ceded by Spain to Britain in perpetuity under the 1713 Treaty of Utrecht, although the Spanish still claim the territory and insist the Treaty never relinquished its waters.

Spain’s new-found recognition was tested earlier this month when it sent
a corvette into British waters, fuelling diplomatic tensions.

1713 Treaty of Utrecht and British Gibraltar Territorial Waters

In their attempt to seize Gibraltar, the Spanish say that the 1713 Treaty of Utrecht never relinquished Gibraltar's waters to the British. In fact, the Spanish are quite right on that account. The Treaty of Utrecht did not specify territorial waters, as like so many things the concept had not been developed at the time. But Britain DOES still have a right to own the waters around Gibraltar. By the first half of the 18th century the concept of the three-mile wide sovereign territorial sea emerged. This was eventually adopted by most countries as the basis of marine jurisdiction, until the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea 1982, which entered into force in 1995, set a new standard of 12 nautical miles. Britain's territorial waters around Gibraltar currently extend up to just 3 nautical miles, so the British could even EXTEND them if they wish to up to 12 nautical miles.

The Spanish say: "2. In ratifying the Convention, Spain wishes to make it known that this act cannot be construed as recognition of any rights or status regarding the maritime space of Gibraltar that are not included in article 10 of the Treaty of Utrecht of 13 July 1713 concluded between the Crowns of Spain and Great Britain. Furthermore, Spain does not consider that Resolution III of the Third United Nations Conference on the Law of the Sea is applicable to the colony of Gibraltar, which is subject to a process of decolonization in which only relevant resolutions adopted by the United Nations General Assembly are applicable."

The British say: "With regard to point 2 of the declaration made upon ratification of the Convention (on the Law of the Sea 1982) by the Government of Spain, the Government of the United Kingdom has no doubt about the sovereignty of the United Kingdom over Gibraltar, including its territorial waters. The Government of the United Kingdom, as the administering authority of Gibraltar, has extended the United Kingdom's accession to the Convention (on the Law of the Sea 1982) and ratification of the Agreement to Gibraltar. The Government of the United Kingdom, therefore, rejects as unfounded point 2 of the Spanish declaration."

The armed fisheries protection ship Tarifa entered unannounced into waters to the east of Gibraltar to inspect fishing boats, insisting that it was in Spanish waters.

The vessel retreated only after the Royal Navy patrol boat HMS Sabre was sent to intercept it.

The incursion took place just a day after the Gibraltar government made it known that it was considering taking legal action against the designation.

It has lodged a bid in the European Court of First Instance in Luxembourg to overturn the decision.

Britain’s Europe Minister, Caroline Flint, said: ‘We share the deep concerns that this designation has caused in Gibraltar and we continue to assert our sovereignty over BGTW. ’

A Foreign Office spokeswoman added: ‘The UK is the only member state which is able to make a proposal like this. We do not recognise the validity of their designation.’

Gibraltar’s Chief Minister Peter Caruana told The Mail on Sunday: ‘Spain has usurped British sovereignty of Gibraltar waters. This is clearly wrong and unacceptable.

'Spain argues that Britain has no waters around Gibraltar, so its actions are not an innocent mistake. There is zero basis in international law for its position.’

Labour MP Lindsay Hoyle, chairman of the All Party Parliamentary Gibraltar Group, said: ‘This decision must be reversed.

'The Spanish have been trying underhand tricks for 300 years to get a piece of Gibraltar, and unless we do something soon they will have finally succeeded in chipping away at our sovereignty of the Rock.’

Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory, standing guard over the entrance to the Mediterranean Sea, the Strait of Gibraltar.

The territory is a thin stretch of land covering just 2.6sq miles with a fiercely patriotic population of 28,000.

The European Commission declined to comment. The Spanish government failed to respond to phone calls.

READERS' COMMENTS

I wholeheartedly support the people of Gibraltar at this time. On the eve of European elections it is a reminder for all Gibraltarian and British people to get out and vote in these elections and to be thoroughly sceptical about the EU. The EU-Spanish axis' pathetic and illegal actions are a reminder of their Old thinking and Fascist attitude towards Gibraltar and Britain. The British Labour government has to break the habit of a lifetime and show some backbone and get tough and I mean really tough. I'm talking gunboat diplomacy and no shilly - shallying about with quiet diplomacy.
Perhaps some dumb bureaucrat in Brussels simply saw Europa Point (southern point of Gibraltar)on the Chart and said "We'd better have some of that". Well let's show them where to put their greedy hands.
- Jonathan Steel, USA
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Get them out of British waters! Or get the British & Morocans into 'their' waters around the Canary Islands asap!
- Graham, Tenerife
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I hope our government stay strong this time Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory & should be until Gibraltar people say otherwise.
- Sean, Leicester
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Put a couple of our subs out there, they will sort it.
- Mike, English ex pat, Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Under The Treaty.... Spain coveniently forgets, If My memory is correct.. We swapped land for Gibralter.. If they want Gibralter back. Then we should have the land back... we gave them in exchange

Then the other question.. When will they hand back their colony back in North Africa
- Mike Blakemore, West Mildands
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I'll keep this publishable: this is British sovereign territory. The EU should be ignored for myriad reasons. And the British government should engage in a vigourous defence.
- Stewart, Toronto, Canada
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This will be an excellent excuse for Britain's navy to have on the job training. Just rotate various Navy ships into the area and when they need to empty bilge water, just do it further North off the spanish coast.
- Neal, East Lansing, USA
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Well now, New Labour. Can your Foreign Office sort this out? Has Mr Brown the patriotic courage to stop our teritorial waters being stolen from us?
I think not.
Just another nail in the coffin of GB.
Why not ask the people?
Or is that another "courage" issue?
- Ian.Scotland, Strathclyde.Scotland

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Madrid has made it clear that it views the UK’s eventual departure from the European Union as its best chance in three centuries to reclaim sovereignty over a territory it has regretted ceding to Britain ever since 1713.

Alarmed by the government’s apparent preference for a hard Brexit, prioritising immigration controls and judicial sovereignty over single market access, Gibraltar’s leaders – and its businesses – are scrambling to devise a Plan B.

“I think a hard Brexit would be very, very challenging to the economic model that has been the source of our prosperity for 30 years,” Gibraltar’s chief minister, Fabian Picardo, said in an interview.

So while Theresa May talks of a great repeal bill to end the authority of EU law in the UK, Picardo is working on what he terms a great continuation bill – aiming to preserve as many of Gibraltar’s EU advantages as he can.

That will not, he concedes, be easy, and may even entail trying to negotiate a separate relationship with the EU. “Our reality is different: we are part of the physical continent of Europe,” the chief minister said. “So yes, we’ll be looking for a relationship with the EU that may differ from the UK’s, perhaps an associate-style status. There are models: Andorra, Greenland, Liechtenstein. As part of the UK’s exit, we’d like an agreement to continue to give us single market access, and freedom of movement.”

But Madrid may have other ideas. Johnson’s equally bombastic counterpart, José García-Margallo, who earlier this month threatened to “plant his flag” on the enclave, has repeatedly said Gibraltar’s only post-Brexit access to the single market will come through shared sovereignty. Spain, he also likes to recall, can veto any trade deal between the UK and the EU. The prime minister, Mariano Rajoy, reportedly told May in Madrid last week that once the UK abandons free movement and the single market, Gibraltar will have to do so too – unless it agrees to joint rule.

But it may not be down to Gibraltar, or to London. “Spain,” García-Margallo reiterated last week, “will never give up its claim” to the Rock – and free movement across the border would “automatically end” unless Gibraltarians accepted shared sovereignty.

Inheritance and tax laws may change, although existing property rights and UK pensions – which are paid anywhere in the world – are unlikely to be affected. But British workers may be hit by rules in more than half of EU states that say a non-EU citizen can be hired only if no EU candidate is found.

The Spanish government, for example, has already suggested that after Brexit, the UK will have to pay the healthcare costs of Brits living in Spain. For the time being, almost nothing is certain – which explains the huge rise in Britons abroad seeking EU citizenship.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/22/gibraltar-brexit-vote-new-eu-relationship
 

Danbones

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britons muslims everyone everywhere
forced immigration is the modern nuke
its all a global integration designed to destroy national sovereignty and the democratic ideals

we saw how well central government works in stalinist russia
 

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Given that Gibraltar trades more with the continent than with Great Britain, it might make sense for Gibraltar to remain a part of the EU even if it means trade bariers between it and the mother country.

As for the free movement of people, it should be easy enough for the UK to simply say that while Gibraltar will maintain the free movement of peoples on the continent, Great Britain will not. Gibraltar residents could obtain their own passport and as such, maintain both UK and EU citizenship and be given a Gibraltar citizenship to boot. As UK citizens, they could freely go to the UK and UK residents could freely go to Gibraltar. As EU citizens, they could freely go to other EU countries and other EU residents could freely enter Gibraltar.

Where it gets problematic is with loopholes. As an example, could any UK citizen first move to Gibraltar to obtain his Gibraltar residency and through that his Gibraltar citizenship and from that his EU citizenship? What happens if he then returns to the UK to reside? Does he then lose his Gibraltar and EU citizenship? This would make Gibraltar citizenship essentially synomymous with Gibraltar residency. Similar in Hong Kong. They are Chinese citizens but Hong Kong residents and as Hong Kong residents are also Hong Kong citizens with the right to a Hong Kong passport which also counts as a Chinese passport. But the standard Chinese passport doesn't count as a Hong Kong passport. In that sense, a Hong Kong resident is a kind of citizen+. Maybe a similar model for Gibraltar residents? As a citizen of the UK who resides in Gibraltar, you cold gain Gibraltar citizenship and so become a kind of UK citizen+?

One challenge I could see with this would be that Gibraltar banks, commerce, etc. would be integrated into the EU while those in Great Britain would be outside the EU, and so separate systems but common citizenship. But it is doable. In many ways, Gibraltar citizens would have the best of both worlds, free to access the UK labour market since they'd be UK citizens and the EU labour market since they'd be EU citizens too.
 

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Gibraltar citizens would have the best of both worlds, free to access the UK labour market since they'd be UK citizens and the EU labour market since they'd be EU citizens too.

good point
all the more reason for the brits to hang on there as it would give them the best of both worlds
and still have military control of that critcal gateway
 

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good point
all the more reason for the brits to hang on there as it would give them the best of both worlds
and still have military control of that critcal gateway

Depends on whether the EU would agree to it, but I don't see why not since keeping Gibraltar within the EU would benefit the EU too anyway. The only point of contention I can see would be the EU saying well, if EU citizens can freely enter only Gibraltar but not the rest of the UK, why should UK citizens outside of Gibraltar be allowed to freely enter the EU? And since Great Britain and Gibraltar would share the same UK citizenship, this raises questions on how to deffine Gibraltar citizenship as distinct from UK citizenship.

Again, I think a reasonable solution would be that any UK citizen whose last place of residence in the UK was Gibraltar would be considered a Gibraltar and EU citizen too. If his last place of residence in the UK is outside of Gibraltar, then he loses his Gibraltar and EU citizenship.

An alternative solution would be to base it on birth. A person born in Gibraltar gains goth UK and Gibraltar citizenship and consequently EU citizenship too, otherwise he can gain only UK citizenship. But then, what about immigrants to Gibraltar? For example, would it be possible for some to in fact obtain only Gibraltar citizenship without UK citizenship, or should UK ciizenship automatically be conferred on any citizen of Gibraltar? There would be lots of stuff to work out on that front, but since it would be in the EU's own interest and the UK's and Gibraltar's, I'm sure they could work something out. Maybe base it on the Hong Kong residency model.
 

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Britain stole that patch of dirt from Spain. Their territorial greed knew no bounds. But what goes around comes around, eh Cyril? Get your greasy, fishy fat fingers out of Spain! Besides, the Muzzies don't want Spain...yet.
 

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Madrid has made it clear that it views the UK’s eventual departure from the European Union as its best chance in three centuries to reclaim sovereignty over a territory it has regretted ceding to Britain ever since 1713.
Spain should bugger off. Gibraltar has been British for longer than it has been Spanish. And it's British forever, according to the Treaty of Utrecht.

Gibraltar voted 96% to remain in the EU in the referendum - a result which occurred because the Gibraltareans were worried that coming out of the EU would leave them vulnerable to those dirty Spaniards. But they needn't worry. Gibraltar is coming out of the EU with Britain and it's staying British, and there is nothing the Spanish can do about it, unless they want a few of their navy ships sunk by a squadron of Type 45s.

“I think a hard Brexit would be very, very challenging to the economic model that has been the source of our prosperity for 30 years,” Gibraltar’s chief minister, Fabian Picardo, said in an interview.
A "hard Brexit" - or what we used to call Brexit before the Remoaners introduced the terms "hard Brexit" and "soft Brexit" after they lost to try and trick the British people into staying in the EU - is what the British people voted for.

I'm sure Mr Picardo knows that the democratic will of the British people must, and will, be met.

Britain stole that patch of dirt from Spain.

And the Spanish stole it from the Castilians in 1462, who in turn stole it from the Marinids in 1309, who in turn stole it from the Nasrids in 1274, who in turns stole it from the Moors in 1237, who in turn conquered Gibraltar during the Islamic Conquest of Iberia in 711, taking the Rock from the Visigoths.

In all its long history, Gibraltar was only Spanish for a mere 251 years. It's been British for 306 years and it is British for eternity, according to the Treaty of Utrecht.
 

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What is going on lately; this flexing of muscles from Russia, now Spain. They should know that it's against to law to steal. Gibraltar does not belong to Spain, it did, but was conceded to Britain in the 17th century, plus the citizens of Gibraltar refused to vote of stay in the EU, they are part of Britain and want to stay. Britain will not negotiate on this one, and I wouldn't either, why would they go against Gibraltar's wish? If every country decided to reclaim territories that were appropriated through treaty's, WWII would definitely have to be declared.
 

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but Crimea is bad for doing the same

some time one has to larf it all off
 

Blackleaf

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What is going on lately; this flexing of muscles from Russia, now Spain. They should know that it's against to law to steal. Gibraltar does not belong to Spain, it did, but was conceded to Britain in the 17th century, plus the citizens of Gibraltar refused to vote of stay in the EU, they are part of Britain and want to stay. Britain will not negotiate on this one, and I wouldn't either, why would they go against Gibraltar's wish? If every country decided to reclaim territories that were appropriated through treaty's, WWII would definitely have to be declared.

Gibraltar voted 96% in favour of staying in the EU (in fact, it was the first area to declare in the referendum). But the question was not whether or not you want Gibraltar in the EU, it was whether or not you want the UK as a whole in the EU. The UK as a whole voted to leave and therefore all of it, including Gibraltar, must leave.

The reason why the Gibraltar Remain vote was so high was mainly due to the fact that they think Britain leaving the EU would get the Spanish sabre-rattling over the Rock again and that the Spanish would end free movement into Gibraltar. The Spanish have closed the border before, leaving the Rock isolated, most notably under Franco in 1969. If the Gibraltareans still want free movement of people, then I'm sure something could be arranged after it leaves the EU. After all, Spain cutting off the border after Brexit to hurt Gibraltar would hurt Spain, too. Thousands of Spaniards travel into Gibraltar everyday for work.

Gibraltar caught between a rock and a hard place after UK's Brexit vote

By freelance correspondent Brietta Hague in Gibraltar
Updated 13 Oct 2016, 12:00am
ABC News


Photo: Former Gibraltar mayor Solomon Levy says he is proudly British. (ABC News: Brietta Hague)

"Gibraltar was given to Britain for forever," the former Gibraltar mayor says.

"Emphasis on forever. Not like Hong Kong."

This week Spain issued a formal request for joint sovereignty over the British territory, repeating a demand made on the day Britain voted to "Brexit". Spanish eyes are firmly fixed on taking back control.

Its Foreign Affairs Minister Jose Garcia-Margallo recently insisted that joint sovereignty is "an opportunity to create more wealth in the region".

"Spain wants the best for Gibraltar," he added.

At the Rock of Gibraltar, the locals are not amused — especially with the "unwelcome fixation" shown by Mr Garcia-Margallo.

It is a view shared by Gibraltar Chief Minister Fabian Picardo, who sat down with the ABC recently.

"The Spanish minister has been unhealthily obsessed with Gibraltar from the moment he took over in 2011," he said.

Perched on the southern coast of Spain, Gibraltar is a last outpost of Europe facing Morocco.

Its 30,000 residents, crowded into a seven-square-kilometre enclave, are up against one of the biggest challenges in their extraordinary history.

But residents like Mr Levy are confident the community can stand firm.

"You know the old saying?" Mr Levy asks rhetorically. "Steady as the rock of Gibraltar."

Gibraltar a source of tension between UK and Spain


Photo: Taxis line up in the town of Linea de la Frontera to cross into Gibraltar. (ABC News: Brietta Hague)

In the June Brexit referendum, 96 per cent of Gibraltarians voted to "Remain" part of the EU.

They were fearful of upsetting the status quo, which has allowed both British citizenship and unrestricted trade and travel in Europe.

People openly cried in the streets when they heard news of Brexit's win. Within hours, Spain's Foreign Minister pounced.

"The Spanish flag on the Rock is much closer than before," Mr Garcia-Margallo promised.


Photo: Fabian Picardo says the British outpost does not want Spain to take control. (ABC News: Brietta Hague)

It is a source of major diplomatic tension.

In August, British warships steamed to Gibraltar in what seemed like a show of force, and Britain refuses to negotiate on the Rock's sovereignty.

Spain is stepping up the pressure. Last week, UN ambassador Roman Oyarzun Marchesi argued Britain should agree to joint sovereignty to maintain free movement between the territories.

Spain contends Gibraltar's territorial status violates the UN's core principles on decolonisation.

Mr Picardo dismisses Madrid's rhetoric as "irresponsible," and complains of tighter border controls it has imposed over the last five years.

"All it has brought is hardship, especially to the Spanish people who access Gibraltar on a daily basis," he said.

Twelve thousand people commute across the border for work in Gibraltar's construction and service industries.

EU membership guarantees an open border, but Spain's increased security checks, among other restrictions, has slowed traffic.

It has been described as a "war of attrition".

Spain has done this before. It isolated Gibraltar completely in 1969 when dictator Francisco Franco arbitrarily closed the border, after Britain attempted to establish a constitution in the territory. It took 13 years before it was reopened.

"More than half of our job market comes from across the frontier every day," Mr Picardo said.

"We rely on free movement."

Gibraltar's British touches and Spanish influence


Photo: Wild macaques are commonly found at the iconic Rock of Gibraltar. (ABC News: Brietta Hague)

The Spanish crossing into Gibraltar is from the town of La Linea de la Concepcion, where taxi drivers wilt in the heat waiting to take British tour groups across the desolate no-man's land. Cars can queue for kilometres.

Once across, the first sight is the famous Rock, the jagged, ash-grey promontory that looms above the town.


Photo: The view from the Rock of Gibraltar. (ABC News: Brietta Hague)

Then there are unmistakable British touches; red phone boxes, street lamps and double-decker buses.

But the long history of inter-mingling with Spain is also obvious. Broad cockney accents seamlessly switch into perfect Spanish.



Britain seized Gibraltar in 1704 during Spain's War of Succession, and it was ceded "in perpetuity" under the Treaty of Utrecht. For three centuries, Spain has itched to have it back.

Mr Levy's family history goes back 250 years. His office is hung with huge portraits of both the Queen and Winston Churchill.

The former mayor's reception foyer is a treasure trove of photos, flags, trophies and teddy bears, all celebrating Great Britain.

He said he was excited to meet an Australian, as he was a huge fan of the 1970s television series The Sullivans, which featured a family living through World War II.

"We had it on television here. We all loved it," Mr Levy said.

'We're not worried about Brexit': former mayor

Mr Levy remembered how World War II dramatically changed the lives of the locals. Gibraltar was a strategic base for the Royal Navy, as it is poised at the entrance to the Mediterranean Sea.

Britain evacuated residents for their safety. They had shortly returned when Gibraltar was dealt another blow from Franco's blockade.

"This is why we are not worried about Brexit. As you can see, we've been through hard times before," he said.

In a 2002 referendum, 98 per cent of Gibraltarians voted to remain British.

The question now is whether they can successfully remain a British territory without guaranteed access to the country that surrounds them.

Mr Picardo hopes Spain will realise it has a lot to lose if it restricts free movement.

"One of the main concerns should be the thousands of Spaniards who have jobs here," he said.

But after bristling for three centuries, an emboldened Spain is intently watching Britain's every move towards Brexit.


Photo: British tourists pose for a selfie. (ABC News: Brietta Hague)

Gibraltar caught between a rock and a hard place after UK's Brexit vote - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)



 
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Gibraltar is all that is left of the once great empire. I can see why Brits want to hang onto it. It's like cling to your one remaining testicle after losing the rest of your body in an accident. Nonetheless, Blackhead is rather pathetic with his illusions of grandeur. Hate to break it to ya Blacky, but the party is over.
 

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Gibraltar is all that is left of the once great empire.

You've forgotten the other 13 British Overseas Territories.

If you take all them into account, Britain is around the size of Mexico.

I can see why Brits want to hang onto it.

It's Britain's for eternity according to the 1713 Treaty of Utrecht.

And the Gibraltareans are Britons and don't want to wake up one morning to find that they have suddenly become Spanish.

Hate to break it to ya Blacky, but the party is over.

Why? Who's gonna end it?