China targets Dalai Lama with slavery charges

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[SIZE=+1]China targets Dalai Lama with slavery charges[/SIZE]
China National News
Friday 30th January, 2009
(IANS)

Stepping up its tirade against the Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama, China has accused him of promoting slavery and asked him to come clear on the state of Tibetan society when he was in charge in Lhasa over five decades ago.

While announcing March 28 as the 'Serf Emancipation Day' and a permanent public holiday in the Tibetan Autonomous Region (TAR) under it, Chinese authorities are claiming that the dissolution of the Tibetan government in 1959 and the escape of the Dalai Lama from Lhasa to India had freed 95 percent of 'serfs' from the clutches of aristocracy headed by the spiritual leader.

The People's Congress (the legislative body) in TAR last week approved the permanent public holiday on March 28.

The Chinese response is to the Tibetan community in exile, largely settled in India, observing 2009-10 as the 50th year of the Tibetan uprising against Chinese occupation. March this year will also mark the first anniversary of the rebellion inside Tibet by the local people that left scores of people dead and hundreds injured.

Communist authorities in mainland China had said that before the Communist rule in Tibet in 1959, about a million serfs lived in miserable slave conditions under the feudal society ruled by the Dalai Lama.

'Tibet under the Dalai Lama was never the Shangri-la of popular romantic fantasies. Unless you want to call a place where 95 percent of the local people were serfs and household slaves, who could be sold, bought and bequeathed like commodities, paradise on earth anyway. Next time when the Dalai Lama talks of human rights in Tibet, ask him what it was like being a serf under his reign.

'Next time when he preaches for 'freedom', ask him what freedom the serfs and slaves enjoyed in the 'good old days' he has been so passionate about... But now, Dharamsala accuses Beijing of enslaving Tibetans,' a hard-hitting editorial in the leading newspaper China Daily said last week.

The editorial advised the Dalai Lama and his sympathisers to have a 'reality check' of things, past and present, in Tibet for the sake of the credibility of 'His Holiness'.

The Tibetan government-in-exile based in north India's hill station Dharamsala was quick to respond.

'China only wants to whitewash its atrocities in Tibet after its occupation. They want to justify their subjugation of the Tibetans. His Holiness, the Dalai Lama, is the undisputed leader of the Tibetans inside and outside Tibet. Even last year's uprising in Tibet made it clear that people wanted him to return to Tibet. No one can represent the Tibetans other than His Holiness,' the exiled government's Secretary for International Relations Sonam Dagpo told IANS from Dharamsala.

'China wants to cover up its mistakes of the last 50 years. They are trying to celebrate their occupation of Tibet by saying that they liberated 95 percent Tibetans who were slaves. Even after coming to India, the Dalai Lama introduced a completely democratic system in the exiled community,' Dagpo added.

The Tibetan government-in-exile and Tibetan non-government organisations have lined up several activities, including peaceful protests, in 2009-10 to mark the 50th anniversary of the Tibetan uprising on March 10.
 

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The facts are: 1) The uprising by the upper class in 1959 was due to implementation of equality and abolishing of slavery, and redistribution of wealth in Tibet amongst all its inhabitant. 2) CIA was involved in that uprising.
 

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So why not allow him to return and have the people of Tibet decide if they want to be part of China or go back to living under the Dalai Lama? If they were slaves and serfs and miserable under him, surely they would vote in favor of their saviors, the Chinese, right?
 

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So why not allow him to return and have the people of Tibet decide if they want to be part of China or go back to living under the Dalai Lama? If they were slaves and serfs and miserable under him, surely they would vote in favor of their saviors, the Chinese, right?

Very interesting ,Tracy ;just like Canada and Qub., right ?
 

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Very interesting ,Tracy ;just like Canada and Qub., right ?

Yes. Quebec has had a couple of referendums on the issue, the last one in 1994 I believe. I lived there at the time in a nice little town called Plessiville (it's the world maple syrup capital btw). I don't recall the Canadian government ever exiling Lucien Bouchard or Jacques Parizeau or forbidding the people of Quebec from voting. Let the people of Tibet do the same thing. If what they say about slavery under the Dalai Lama is true, surely they would vote to remain as a part of China right? Then people wouldn't be able to complain about the Chinese taking it over anymore, which would surely please the Chinese government. So, what's the problem with my suggestion? Unless you think the majority of Tibetans feel differently?
 

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Just as China would have no business interfering in Canadian affairs, we have no business interfering in China. although we do for propaganda reasons.
 

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I don't see how a country Canada's size can interfere with China to any meaningful degree. China does what China wants. Period.
 

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Actually the Chinese are our dearest friends we share the longest undefended ocean you know, we have a long history of trade and cooperation and family with China. So we ain't going to miss the yanks. I may migrate and become Chinese.
 

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Just as China would have no business interfering in Canadian affairs, we have no business interfering in China. although we do for propaganda reasons.

The question boils down to what we consider China.

While Tibet was not a fun place to live and did include wholesale slavery, it was still a seperate nation. While traditionally in Mongolian influence (who ruled China as well up until the 19th century, the Manchu were Mongolians), thats akin to saying that if Russia annexed Ukraine we should stay out of Russian affairs.

But China doesn't allow voting for Pop Idols for fear it could lead to democratic demands, you think they would allow a referendum on Tibetan sovereignty?

Those Han colonists need more land, thats why they took East Turkmenistan at the same time.


I just find it funny so many people support China while "opposing Zionism" . Hilarious.