Our news is lying to us about the Gaza conflict


eanassir
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Quote: Originally Posted by PraxiusView Post

Even those who follow and believe in God can do wrong, which has been proven countless times in the past..... therefore just because someone believes in Satan, or God, or Jesus, or Mohammed, or the Ninja Turtles, doesn't make them my natural friend by default.

If those who believe and hold faith in God could do no wrong and all their actions were done perfectly to God's liking, then there wouldn't be a need for religion and people wouldn't need to seek out God in the first place..... they wouldn't be asking for his forgivness in the wrongs they have done, there wouldn't be a long list of commandments and rules to follow, because we'd just follow them based on instincts.

All of it exists because humans are flawed, no matter the race, gender, location or religion..... none of us are perfect, and because of that, none of us should simply give other's a green light in their actions and decisions, simply because of their religious beliefs.

True.
"All sons of Adam are flawed (or sinful), and the best among them are those that repent (from their sins.)" -- Prophet Mohammed.
 
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#92
Nuts! Humans are flawed and the best of them are able to fix flaws. Who cares if they "repent" (feel remorse)? Does that fix everything? Noo.
 
Just the Facts
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Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

YouTube - Israel admits quotNo Hamas rockets were fired during ceasefirequot


There were four rockets fired in July, not 3, plus 4 mortars.

The beach shell incident was first apolized for by Israel, then denied when they investigated the facts. No shells were fired into the area where the Palestinian family was. Oddly, the Palestinan ambulance and camera crew knew the shell was coming and were johnny on the spot.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Just the FactsView Post

There were four rockets fired in July, not 3, plus 4 mortars.

The beach shell incident was first apolized for by Israel, then denied when they investigated the facts. No shells were fired into the area where the Palestinian family was. Oddly, the Palestinan ambulance and camera crew knew the shell was coming and were johnny on the spot.

Yeah ... and there just happened to be cameras on hand at WTC 2. Be anywhere in Gaza or Israel and something is bound to go BOOM eventually....
 
Just the Facts
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Yeah ... and there just happened to be cameras on hand at WTC 2. Be anywhere in Gaza or Israel and something is bound to go BOOM eventually....

Yeah tourists with videocams in New York City. Who woulda thunk it?
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Just the FactsView Post

Yeah tourists with videocams in New York City. Who woulda thunk it?

Ambulances and cameras in Gaza ... same deal.
 
einmensch
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Praxius-->Boy, you sure think a lot****
 
gopher
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It's interesting how common the theme of "kill all the Jews" is at these protests against imperialism and terrorism.


Interesting how you made that up considering how so many of those who protest against Zionism every year are Orthodox Jews:

 
Just the Facts
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Quote: Originally Posted by gopherView Post

Interesting how you made that up considering how so many of those who protest against Zionism every year are Orthodox Jews:

Yeah I made it up, I control the world media. And you thought it was the Jews!


Toronto: Police protect 5,000 screaming jihadist sympathizers from a handful of anti-jihad Canadians
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Toronto pro-jihad rally: "Jewish child, you're gonna f****n die.
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"Hitler didn't do a good job"
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Denmark pro-jihad demo: "We want to kill all the Jews"
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Los Angeles pro-jihad rally: "Long live Hitler," "Put Jews in ovens"
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London pro-jihad, Jew-hating rally turns violent
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Oh Allah, count their numbers, and kill them, down to the very last one
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00:10:00
Alla-hu Akbar, Alla-hu Akbar
00:32:00
Hitler! Heil Hitler! Hitler! Hitler! Hitler! …
00:40:00
We must just kill all those Jews, man! Then we'd be rid of them, man!
00:45:00
All Jews, man, they will never be loved, never loved.
01:15:00
We are prepared for everything! Prepared for everything! It is you [shouting].
01:28:00
[Interrupting] Give us some Jews!
01:29:00
Now listen up. Now you go home, treading [??] where you want. If you meet some Jews.
01:35:00
[Interrupting] We **** them, man!
01:38:00
Tell them how many they've killed.
01:40:00
Tell them how all Arabs from Copenhagen, how all Arabs from [??], how all Arabs from Hitler, how their punishment will be, for the blood of the Palestinians.
02:00:00
[Assorted shouting, including:] ****ing Jews, man!
02:08:00
Death to Israel.
02:42:00
Kill the Jews.
02:44:00
Allah-hu Akbar
03:08:00
Israel under my foot, Palestine in my blood!
03:18:00
Muhammad Rasul Allah! [Muhammad prophet of Allah!]
05:20:00
Down, down Israel! Down, down Israel!
05:22:00
Down, down USA! Down, down USA!
05:24:00
Viva, viva Palestine! Viva, viva Palestine!
05:25:00
[The banner reads:] Is this defense?
05:30:00
Viva, viva Palestine! Viva, viva Palestine!
05:50:00
Give us some Jews! Give us some Jews! [Explosion heard]
06:10:00
Israel under my foot, Palestine in my blood! Israel under my foot, Palestine in my blood!
06:25:00
[Arabic – probably a Khaybar reference]

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Don't be too surprised if some of those taunts are manuactured by IDF undercover agents. Read the following books for reports on Zionist trickery:

Ostrovsky's By Way of Deception

Beit-Hallahmi's The Israeli Connection
 
einmensch
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#101
"I said: 'Get me President Bush on the phone,'" Olmert said in a speech in the southern Israeli city of Ashkelon. "They said he was in the middle of giving a speech in Philadelphia. I said I didn't care: 'I need to talk to him now.' He got off the podium and spoke to me."
Bush-> Israel's woof woof
 
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#102
Since Israel unleashed its Operation Cast Lead on December 27, at least 918 people, including 277 children, have been killed and another 4,100 wounded, according to Gaza medics. Ten Israeli soldiers and three civilians have been killed in combat or by rocket attacks in the same period and militants have fired some 700 rockets and mortars into Israel.

Fierce fighting?? Looks like more like a duck hunt.
 
Just the Facts
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Quote: Originally Posted by einmenschView Post

Since Israel unleashed its Operation Cast Lead on December 27, at least 918 people, including 277 children, have been killed and another 4,100 wounded, according to Gaza medics. Ten Israeli soldiers and three civilians have been killed in combat or by rocket attacks in the same period and militants have fired some 700 rockets and mortars into Israel.

Fierce fighting?? Looks like more like a duck hunt.

That's why sane people have been saying "stop firing rockets at Israel" for almost a decade now.
 
darkbeaver
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#104
Quote: Originally Posted by Just the FactsView Post

That's why sane people have been saying "stop firing rockets at Israel" for almost a decade now.

Sane people know that you're not. The world can barely hear the vile crys of wolf over the screams of women and children filling thier ears.day by day. They will not heed the Zionist in the days to come and bit by bit the nightmare will pass forever, a streak of excrement on the human memory, and what is most fitting is that they will dance in hell with thier brothers the Nazis.
 
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#105
Well you are in luck DB, zionism is by and large gone in the same way as Colonialism.

That doesn't mean all the desendants of Jewish pioneers and settlers should pack up and leave Israel anymore than the European (and other) settlers to North America are going to pack up and leave.
 
eanassir
#106
Quote: Originally Posted by Just the FactsView Post

There were four rockets fired in July, not 3, plus 4 mortars.

The beach shell incident was first apolized for by Israel, then denied when they investigated the facts. No shells were fired into the area where the Palestinian family was. Oddly, the Palestinan ambulance and camera crew knew the shell was coming and were johnny on the spot.


Just the Facts,
You are not just obviously, neither are your facts complete, but defective.

Do you compare the damage done by the Zionists to the houses of Palesinians and killing the hundreds of them and the injury to thousands of them (including children and women) to the mild and trivial reaction of the Palestinians against their attackers?
 
china
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#107
Quote:

Our news is lying to us about the Gaza conflict

They were /are doing it from the times before you were born ;and that's before Gaza conflict .

So,why do you concern yourself with "the news ";why don't you just look into yourself , all you ed to know is there ....including the reason for the Gaza conflict ; if you need to now that ,that is.....................
Last edited by china; Jan 15th, 2009 at 04:18 AM..
 
eanassir
#108
Quote: Originally Posted by chinaView Post

They were /are doing it from the times before you were born ;and that's before Gaza conflict .

So,why do you concern yourself with "the news ";why don't you just look into yourself , all you ed to know is there ....including the reason for the Gaza conflict ; if you need to now that ,that is.....................


There is something special for the problem of Palestine: it is so important for the Arabs and the Muslims, to the extent that the one who will liberate Palestine, he will be the chief of the Arabs and the Muslims and will rule over them and be their leader and king. And all the Arabs and Muslims will be united by this man.

Moreover, it is some heavenly decreed condition that will inevitably take its course.

Now all the governments, parties and organizations have failed to accomplish this task, in spite of that they have the truth, and the condition of Palestine is so evidently obvious that the right is with the Palestinians, the Arab and the Muslims.

This will take place, within some near time, and the one that liberate Palestine, and God gives him the easy victory and triumph over Jews and Zionists, will issue from God, and is a devoted servant of God alone and follow the Glorious Quran; to whom the Arabs will submit and give him the sovereignty to be their king; and he will rule according to the Quran judgment.


I supplicated God and said:
"Lord, You see and know (and none may teach You; You are the All-Knowing)!

Lord, the 1.5 billions of Muslims have been overcome by their few millions enemy;

Lord, they have killed the women and children and destroyed their houses on their heads, and cut the electric power supply and the drinking water, and they have become in a miserable condition, how sad is that!

And in spite of their truth and right, they could not defend themselves, neither could the Arab governments nor all the world could do anything to them.

Lord, to You I complain this very sad condition, and my heart is squeezed with sadness and grief!"

Then I consulted God Almighty by the Glorious Quran, and God promised to destroy the transgressors in this aya of the Quran 52: 7-8

إِنَّ عَذَابَ رَبِّكَ لَوَاقِعٌ . مَا لَهُ مِن دَافِعٍ

The explanation:
(Surely, your Lord's punishment [for the associaters] will inevitably occur.

There is none that can avert it.)
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eanassir
#109
The victory will be for the Arabs and Muslims

If Palestinians want to liberate their country and restore the Remote Mosque (Aqsa) at Jerusalem, they have to abandon the atheism (because many of their educated youths follow the atheism), and abandon the association and the enthusiasm about sheikhs, the prophet Mohammed and his comrades (because many of the Palestinians follow this association and enthusiasm)

When the Arabs and Muslims abandon the atheism, the association and the enthusiasm about imams, sheikhs and righteous men; and follow the Quran judgment; they – then – will be victorious.

Or else they will never be victorious against their abased and lowly enemy who has been set against them as punishment from God according to their enthusiasm and associating the graves of their imams and sheikhs.

The Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims should not follow the Western confusions and atheism; but in order to be victorious, they have to be with God alone without associate, and should abandon the enthusiasm about their sheikhs, the Prophet and his companions, and should seek the assistance of God alone, and He will be with them and give them the victory on their enemy and the triumph over the transgressors, and no one will object and all peoples of the world will rejoice at their victory.

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einmensch
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Published: January 16, 2009 08:44h

.kl351457a18236893 img{border-color:#222222 } Destruction from Israel's offensive in the Gaza Strip has cost the Palestinian economy at least $1.4 billion, Palestinian officials said. The Palestinian Statistics Bureau said some 26,000 Gazans unable to live in their homes were being housed in emergency temporary shelters.
The bureau estimated that some 20,000 residential buildings had been damaged in Israeli air, sea and ground attacks that began on Dec. 27, and that some 4,000 were totally destroyed.
Surveyors reporting to the bureau said public buildings were also destroyed including 18 schools and university buildings, roads, bridges, power lines and water and sewage pipes.
The bureau put the cost of reconstruction at close to $1 billion, with daily losses of revenues amounting to an additional $420,000. With fighting continuing, it said the final cost could be much higher.
"The Gaza Strip has become a humanitarian, social and economic disaster area because of Israeli aggression," bureau director Loay Shabane said in a statement.
The Palestinian death toll from the almost three-week-old offensive was at least 1,105, with some 5,100 wounded, according to the Health Ministry in Gaza. A Palestinian rights group said about 700 of the dead were civilians.
Thirteen Israelis have been killed, including 10 soldiers and three civilians hit by Hamas rocket fire. ---4 of those Israeli soldiers were killed by friendly fire

What has Israel achieved ?
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by einmenschView Post

Published: January 16, 2009 08:44h
.kl351457a18236893 img{border-color:#222222 } Destruction from Israel's offensive in the Gaza Strip has cost the Palestinian economy at least $1.4 billion, Palestinian officials said. The Palestinian Statistics Bureau said some 26,000 Gazans unable to live in their homes were being housed in emergency temporary shelters.
The bureau estimated that some 20,000 residential buildings had been damaged in Israeli air, sea and ground attacks that began on Dec. 27, and that some 4,000 were totally destroyed.
Surveyors reporting to the bureau said public buildings were also destroyed including 18 schools and university buildings, roads, bridges, power lines and water and sewage pipes.
The bureau put the cost of reconstruction at close to $1 billion, with daily losses of revenues amounting to an additional $420,000. With fighting continuing, it said the final cost could be much higher.
"The Gaza Strip has become a humanitarian, social and economic disaster area because of Israeli aggression," bureau director Loay Shabane said in a statement.
The Palestinian death toll from the almost three-week-old offensive was at least 1,105, with some 5,100 wounded, according to the Health Ministry in Gaza. A Palestinian rights group said about 700 of the dead were civilians.
Thirteen Israelis have been killed, including 10 soldiers and three civilians hit...

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The Globe and Mail today reported that a Hamas offered a ceasefire yesterday, which includes the introduction of Egyptian border control by a third party to prevent arms smuggling, a key Israeli demand. Hamas leaders admitted they had "no other choice".

At the very least 400 Hamas militants, dedicated to the destruction of Israel, are dead, and thousands wounded. Said Siam, the "strongman of Hamas" and leader of Gazan paramilitarys, is dead, as are many of Hamas' highest ranking militants, including the group's security chief and the military commander of Gaza City........and the Israelis aren't even into the city yet.

One could hope that the unfortunate average Palestinian has learned that political support for Hamas is counter-productive at best, suicidal at worst.

Most importantly, Hamas has learned two things: Israel is not a patsy to be kicked with impunity, and the rest of the gov'ts of the Arab street don't give a damn about Hamas, no matter how many protests there are in their cities.

Sounds like a decent 20 days work.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

Sounds like a decent 20 days work.

Spoken like a true fuktard.
Acts like this one support the view that you really are one.
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Last edited by MHz; Jan 16th, 2009 at 10:28 AM..
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Spoken like a true fuktard.
Acts like this one support the view that you really are one.
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One could hope that the unfortunate average Palestinian has learned that political support for Hamas is counter-productive at best, suicidal at worst.
 
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#114
Quote: Originally Posted by ZzarchovView Post

Well you are in luck DB, zionism is by and large gone in the same way as Colonialism.

That doesn't mean all the desendants of Jewish pioneers and settlers should pack up and leave Israel anymore than the European (and other) settlers to North America are going to pack up and leave.

Everytime you speak you insult every reader and destroy what remains of your credibility which is vanishingly tiny. Neo-colonialism is the modern game Zzarchov, get some independent education, you're being used like a tool.
 
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#115
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

One could hope that the unfortunate average Palestinian has learned that political support for Hamas is counter-productive at best, suicidal at worst.

You'd put your own shackles on for your owner wouldn't you? You advise falling to ones knees in the face of oppression, the average Palestinian knows more about freedom than you can imagine.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Everytime you speak you insult every reader and destroy what remains of your credibility which is vanishingly tiny. Neo-colonialism is the modern game Zzarchov, get some independent education, you're being used like a tool.

Uh huh, so hows that destruction of capitalism you guaranteed would occur in spring 2008?
 
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Uh huh, so hows that destruction of capitalism you guaranteed would occur in spring 2008?

What a cynic!

Capitalism DID die a terrible death in 2008, it is just that nobody noticed!

Except DB.
 
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#118
Just saw on the news......

The Hamas political leadership, at a conference of Arab states and Iran, just destroyed any prospect of success for the cease-fire so carefully negotiated in Cairo by Israel and Hamas militants from Gaza.

Hamas's political leaders have decided Hamas will fight until death or until Israel withdraws (read "surrenders") completely.....thus undercutting the military wing in Gaza.

Hamas' political leadership lives in Damascus.

Oh, and they were practically on their knees in front of their master, the President of Iran.
 
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#119
Regardless, Israel is seen as a murderer by the majority of the world. The SS of the 21st century. Of course by those who support Zionism, the act was heroic. We will see if anything was accomplished other than making the lives of a 1.4 million people even more miserable than the Israelis had already made it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

Just saw on the news......

The Hamas political leadership, at a conference of Arab states and Iran, just destroyed any prospect of success for the cease-fire so carefully negotiated in Cairo by Israel and Hamas militants from Gaza.

Hamas's political leaders have decided Hamas will fight until death or until Israel withdraws (read "surrenders") completely.....thus undercutting the military wing in Gaza.

Hamas' political leadership lives in Damascus.

Oh, and they were practically on their knees in front of their master, the President of Iran.

In addition the Military Wing of Hammas who is doing all the bleeding has supported a cease fire but the exiled leaders in Syria have rejected it.
 

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