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July 10th, 2008, 05:02 PM
Mark my words.
There will be no US attack on Iran.
Period.
There might be a limited Israeli strike on nuclear targets in Iran.
the sooner the better.
Quoting TehranTim
Perhaps if your leaders didn't speak of using Persian or Arab nuclear weapons against Israel, or if they quit supporting murderous Hamas or genocidal Hezbollah (which murders Jews world-wide) Israel might find something better to do than blow the hell out of potential nuclear arms-making installations.
I don't have anything against the US, most people I know have nothing against the US, my government has nothing against the US, but the Israelis for their own geopolitical reasons are pushing hard for an American war on Iran. We'd have normalized relations with the US, and there damn sure wouldn't be talks of a war if it wasn't for Israeli instigation (with the help of their tribesman in Washington like AIPAC and the Neoconservatives).
Mark my words.
There will be no US attack on Iran.
Period.
There might be a limited Israeli strike on nuclear targets in Iran.
the sooner the better.
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July 10th, 2008, 05:05 PM
OIL AND WAR WHAT MORE CAN I SAY...!!!
Quote:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=9437
The Coming Catastrophe?
The finishing touches on several contingency plans for attacking Iran
by David DeBatto
Global Research, June 23, 2008
One thing the Pentagon routinely does (and does very well) is conduct war games. Top brass there are constantly developing strategies for conducting any number of theoretical missions based on real or perceived threats to our national security or vital interests. This was also done prior to the invasion of Iraq, but the Bush administration chose not to listen to the dire warnings about that mission given to him by Pentagon leaders, or for that matter, by his own senior intelligence officials. Nevertheless, war gaming is in full swing again right now with the bullseye just to the right of our current mess – Iran.
It’s no secret that the U.S. is currently putting the finishing touches on several contingency plans for attacking Iranian nuclear and military facilities. With our ground forces stretched to the breaking point in Iraq and Afghanistan, none of the most likely scenarios involve a ground invasion. Not that this administration wouldn’t prefer to march into the seat of Shiite Islam behind a solid, moving line of M1 Abrams tanks and proclaim the country for democracy. The fact is that even the President knows we can’t pull that off any more so he and the neo-cons will have to settle for Shock and Awe Lite.
If we invade Iran this year it will be done using hundreds of sorties by carrier based aircraft already stationed in the Persian Gulf and from land based aircraft located in Iraq and Qatar. They will strike the known nuclear facilities located in and around Tehran and the rest of the country as well as bases containing major units of the Iranian military, anti-aircraft installations and units of the Revolutionary Guard (a separate and potent Iranian para-military organization).
Will this military action stop Iran’s efforts to develop nuclear weapons? Probably not. It will probably not even destroy all of their nuclear research facilities, the most sensitive of which are known to be underground, protected by tons of earth and reinforced concrete and steel designed to survive almost all attacks using conventional munitions. The Iranian military and Revolutionary Guard will most likely survive as well, although they will suffer significant casualties and major bases and command centers will undoubtedly be destroyed. However, since Iran has both a functioning Air Force, Navy (including submarines) and modern anti-aircraft capabilities, U.S. fighter-bombers will suffer casualties as well. This will not be a "Cake Walk" as with the U.S. led invasion of Iraq in 2003 when the Iraqi Army simply melted away and the Iraqi Air Force never even launched a single aircraft.
Not even close.
If the United States attacks Iran either this summer or this fall, the American people had better be prepared for a shock that may perhaps be even greater to the national psyche (and economy) than 9/11. First of all, there will be significant U.S. casualties in the initial invasion. American jets will be shot down and the American pilots who are not killed will be taken prisoner - including female pilots. Iranian Yakhonts 26, Sunburn 22 and Exocet missiles will seek out and strike U.S. naval battle groups bottled up in the narrow waters of the Persian Gulf with very deadly results. American sailors will be killed and U.S. ships will be badly damaged and perhaps sunk. We may even witness the first attack on an American Aircraft carrier since World War II.
That’s just the opening act.
Israel (who had thus far stayed out of the fray by letting the U.S. military do the heavy lifting) is attacked by Hezbollah in a coordinated and large scale effort. Widespread and grisly casualties effectively paralyze the nation, a notion once thought impossible. Iran’s newest ally in the region, Syria, then unleashes a barrage of over 200 Scud B, C and D missiles at Israel, each armed with VX gas. Since all of Israel is within range of these Russian built weapons, Haifa, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and virtually all major civilian centers and several military bases are struck, often with a result of massive casualties.
The Israeli Air Force orders all three squadrons of their F-16I Sufa fighter/bombers into the air with orders to bomb Tehran and as many military and nuclear bases as they can before they are either shot down or run out of fuel. It is a one way trip for some of these pilots. Their ancient homeland lies in ruins. Many have family that is already dead or dying. They do not wait for permission from Washington, DC or U.S. regional military commanders. The Israeli aircraft are carrying the majority of their country’s nuclear arsenal under their wings.
Just after the first waves of U.S. bombers cross into Iranian airspace, the Iranian Navy, using shore based missiles and small, fast attack craft sinks several oil tankers in the Straits of Hormuz, sealing off the Persian Gulf and all its oil from the rest of the world. They then mine the area, making it difficult and even deadly for American minesweepers to clear the straits. Whatever is left of the Iranian Navy and Air Force harasses our Navy as it attempts minesweeping operations. More U.S casualties.
The day after the invasion Wall Street (and to a lesser extent, Tokyo, London and Frankfurt) acts as it always does in an international crisis – irrational speculative and spot buying reaches fever pitch and sends the cost of oil skyrocketing. In the immediate aftermath of the U.S. invasion of Iran, the price of oil goes to $200.00 - $300.00 dollars a barrel on the open market. If the war is not resolved in a few weeks, that price could rise even higher. This will send the price of gasoline at the pump in this country to $8.00-$10.00 per gallon immediately and subsequently to even higher unthinkable levels.
If that happens, this country shuts down. Most Americans are not be able to afford gas to go to work. Truckers pull their big rigs to the side of the road and simply walk away. Food, medicine and other critical products are not be brought to stores. Gas and electricity (what is left of the short supply) are too expensive for most people to afford. Children, the sick and elderly die from lack of air-conditioned homes and hospitals in the summer. Children, the sick and elderly die in the winter for lack of heat. There are food riots across the country. A barter system takes the place of currency and credit as the economy dissolves and banks close or limit withdrawals. Civil unrest builds.
The police are unable to contain the violence and are themselves victims of the same crisis as the rest of the population. Civilian rule dissolves and Martial Law is declared under provisions approved under the Patriot Act. Regular U.S. Army and Marine troops patrol the streets. The federal government apparatus is moved to an unknown but secure location. The United States descends into chaos and becomes a third world country. Its time as the lone superpower is over.
It doesn’t get any worse than this.
Then the first Israeli bomber drops its nuclear payload on Tehran.
David DeBatto is a former U.S. Army Counterintelligence Special Agent, Iraqi war veteran and co-author the "CI" series from Warner Books and the upcoming "Counter to Intelligence" from Praeger Security International.
The finishing touches on several contingency plans for attacking Iran
by David DeBatto
Global Research, June 23, 2008Global Research Editor's note
We bring to the attention of our readers David DeBatto's scenario as to what might occur if one of the several contingency plans to attack Iran, with the participation of Israel and NATO, were to be carried out. While one may disagree with certain elements of detail of the author's text, the thrust of this analysis must be taken seriously.
"Israel has said a strike on Iran will be "unavoidable" if the Islamic regime continues to press ahead with alleged plans for building an atom-bomb." (London Daily Telegraph, 6/11/2008)
We are fast approaching the final six months of the Bush administration. The quagmire in Iraq is in its sixth painful year with no real end in sight and the forgotten war in Afghanistan is well into its seventh year. The "dead enders" and other armed factions are still alive and well in Iraq and the Taliban in Afghanistan again controls most of that country. Gas prices have now reached an average of $4.00 a gallon nationally and several analysts predict the price will rise to $5.00-$6.00 dollars per gallon at the pump by Labor Day. This, despite assurances by some major supporters of the decision to invade Iraq that the Iraq war "will pay for itself" (Paul Wolfowitz) or that we will see "$20.00 per barrel" oil prices if we invade Iraq (Rupert Murdoch)."Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany joined President Bush on Wednesday in calling for further sanctions against Iran if it does not suspend its uranium enrichment program." Mr. Bush stressed again that "all options are on the table," which would include military force. (New York Times, 6/11/2008)
One thing the Pentagon routinely does (and does very well) is conduct war games. Top brass there are constantly developing strategies for conducting any number of theoretical missions based on real or perceived threats to our national security or vital interests. This was also done prior to the invasion of Iraq, but the Bush administration chose not to listen to the dire warnings about that mission given to him by Pentagon leaders, or for that matter, by his own senior intelligence officials. Nevertheless, war gaming is in full swing again right now with the bullseye just to the right of our current mess – Iran.
It’s no secret that the U.S. is currently putting the finishing touches on several contingency plans for attacking Iranian nuclear and military facilities. With our ground forces stretched to the breaking point in Iraq and Afghanistan, none of the most likely scenarios involve a ground invasion. Not that this administration wouldn’t prefer to march into the seat of Shiite Islam behind a solid, moving line of M1 Abrams tanks and proclaim the country for democracy. The fact is that even the President knows we can’t pull that off any more so he and the neo-cons will have to settle for Shock and Awe Lite.
If we invade Iran this year it will be done using hundreds of sorties by carrier based aircraft already stationed in the Persian Gulf and from land based aircraft located in Iraq and Qatar. They will strike the known nuclear facilities located in and around Tehran and the rest of the country as well as bases containing major units of the Iranian military, anti-aircraft installations and units of the Revolutionary Guard (a separate and potent Iranian para-military organization).
Will this military action stop Iran’s efforts to develop nuclear weapons? Probably not. It will probably not even destroy all of their nuclear research facilities, the most sensitive of which are known to be underground, protected by tons of earth and reinforced concrete and steel designed to survive almost all attacks using conventional munitions. The Iranian military and Revolutionary Guard will most likely survive as well, although they will suffer significant casualties and major bases and command centers will undoubtedly be destroyed. However, since Iran has both a functioning Air Force, Navy (including submarines) and modern anti-aircraft capabilities, U.S. fighter-bombers will suffer casualties as well. This will not be a "Cake Walk" as with the U.S. led invasion of Iraq in 2003 when the Iraqi Army simply melted away and the Iraqi Air Force never even launched a single aircraft.
Not even close.
If the United States attacks Iran either this summer or this fall, the American people had better be prepared for a shock that may perhaps be even greater to the national psyche (and economy) than 9/11. First of all, there will be significant U.S. casualties in the initial invasion. American jets will be shot down and the American pilots who are not killed will be taken prisoner - including female pilots. Iranian Yakhonts 26, Sunburn 22 and Exocet missiles will seek out and strike U.S. naval battle groups bottled up in the narrow waters of the Persian Gulf with very deadly results. American sailors will be killed and U.S. ships will be badly damaged and perhaps sunk. We may even witness the first attack on an American Aircraft carrier since World War II.
That’s just the opening act.
Israel (who had thus far stayed out of the fray by letting the U.S. military do the heavy lifting) is attacked by Hezbollah in a coordinated and large scale effort. Widespread and grisly casualties effectively paralyze the nation, a notion once thought impossible. Iran’s newest ally in the region, Syria, then unleashes a barrage of over 200 Scud B, C and D missiles at Israel, each armed with VX gas. Since all of Israel is within range of these Russian built weapons, Haifa, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and virtually all major civilian centers and several military bases are struck, often with a result of massive casualties.
The Israeli Air Force orders all three squadrons of their F-16I Sufa fighter/bombers into the air with orders to bomb Tehran and as many military and nuclear bases as they can before they are either shot down or run out of fuel. It is a one way trip for some of these pilots. Their ancient homeland lies in ruins. Many have family that is already dead or dying. They do not wait for permission from Washington, DC or U.S. regional military commanders. The Israeli aircraft are carrying the majority of their country’s nuclear arsenal under their wings.
Just after the first waves of U.S. bombers cross into Iranian airspace, the Iranian Navy, using shore based missiles and small, fast attack craft sinks several oil tankers in the Straits of Hormuz, sealing off the Persian Gulf and all its oil from the rest of the world. They then mine the area, making it difficult and even deadly for American minesweepers to clear the straits. Whatever is left of the Iranian Navy and Air Force harasses our Navy as it attempts minesweeping operations. More U.S casualties.
The day after the invasion Wall Street (and to a lesser extent, Tokyo, London and Frankfurt) acts as it always does in an international crisis – irrational speculative and spot buying reaches fever pitch and sends the cost of oil skyrocketing. In the immediate aftermath of the U.S. invasion of Iran, the price of oil goes to $200.00 - $300.00 dollars a barrel on the open market. If the war is not resolved in a few weeks, that price could rise even higher. This will send the price of gasoline at the pump in this country to $8.00-$10.00 per gallon immediately and subsequently to even higher unthinkable levels.
If that happens, this country shuts down. Most Americans are not be able to afford gas to go to work. Truckers pull their big rigs to the side of the road and simply walk away. Food, medicine and other critical products are not be brought to stores. Gas and electricity (what is left of the short supply) are too expensive for most people to afford. Children, the sick and elderly die from lack of air-conditioned homes and hospitals in the summer. Children, the sick and elderly die in the winter for lack of heat. There are food riots across the country. A barter system takes the place of currency and credit as the economy dissolves and banks close or limit withdrawals. Civil unrest builds.
The police are unable to contain the violence and are themselves victims of the same crisis as the rest of the population. Civilian rule dissolves and Martial Law is declared under provisions approved under the Patriot Act. Regular U.S. Army and Marine troops patrol the streets. The federal government apparatus is moved to an unknown but secure location. The United States descends into chaos and becomes a third world country. Its time as the lone superpower is over.
It doesn’t get any worse than this.
Then the first Israeli bomber drops its nuclear payload on Tehran.
David DeBatto is a former U.S. Army Counterintelligence Special Agent, Iraqi war veteran and co-author the "CI" series from Warner Books and the upcoming "Counter to Intelligence" from Praeger Security International.
OIL AND WAR WHAT MORE CAN I SAY...!!!
Newbie
Posts: 27
Location: Deep in the ghettos of Southern Tehran
Location: Deep in the ghettos of Southern Tehran
July 10th, 2008, 05:18 PM
Your claim is that we have spoken of using Persian or Arab nuclear weapons against Israel.
That's your claim. Now I'm going to ask you to give us a reputable source to back up that claim.
Failure to do so will expose you as a liar and a fraud. I think you're smarter than that however, and you wouldn't pull statements out of your backside. So I'm giving you the opportunity here to back up what you said.
Quoting Colpy
I'm not gonna get into the rest of your post, but just to demonstrate your credibility on this subject, I'll put forth a challenge.
Perhaps if your leaders didn't speak of using Persian or Arab nuclear weapons against Israel.
Your claim is that we have spoken of using Persian or Arab nuclear weapons against Israel.
That's your claim. Now I'm going to ask you to give us a reputable source to back up that claim.
Failure to do so will expose you as a liar and a fraud. I think you're smarter than that however, and you wouldn't pull statements out of your backside. So I'm giving you the opportunity here to back up what you said.
Council Member
Posts: 1,732
July 10th, 2008, 05:55 PM
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...le+Search&meta=
http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&q=t...num=1&ct=title
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/109397.html
Your extreme dark right politicians are involved in fueling the fire. Here we see many proven links of these facts. So, the people in Iran may want peace which I am sure is the case, but the extreme right cares more about their stupid personal self hating agenda than peace in the region.
Quoting TehranTim
Hey Tim look below,
I'm not gonna get into the rest of your post, but just to demonstrate your credibility on this subject, I'll put forth a challenge.
Your claim is that we have spoken of using Persian or Arab nuclear weapons against Israel.
That's your claim. Now I'm going to ask you to give us a reputable source to back up that claim.
Failure to do so will expose you as a liar and a fraud. I think you're smarter than that however, and you wouldn't pull statements out of your backside. So I'm giving you the opportunity here to back up what you said.
Your claim is that we have spoken of using Persian or Arab nuclear weapons against Israel.
That's your claim. Now I'm going to ask you to give us a reputable source to back up that claim.
Failure to do so will expose you as a liar and a fraud. I think you're smarter than that however, and you wouldn't pull statements out of your backside. So I'm giving you the opportunity here to back up what you said.
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...le+Search&meta=
http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&q=t...num=1&ct=title
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/109397.html
Your extreme dark right politicians are involved in fueling the fire. Here we see many proven links of these facts. So, the people in Iran may want peace which I am sure is the case, but the extreme right cares more about their stupid personal self hating agenda than peace in the region.
Grossly Underrated
Posts: 6,254
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
July 10th, 2008, 06:17 PM
Hey Sock.... Range and target aren't the same thing. That's like saying all Greeks are really Macedonians.
Some religious kook said Muslims should attack Israel with nuclear weapons. Why do the warmongers always look for battlespeak in rhetoric?
http://www.iran-press-service.com/ar...ats_141201.htm
Hey Sock.... Range and target aren't the same thing. That's like saying all Greeks are really Macedonians.
Some religious kook said Muslims should attack Israel with nuclear weapons. Why do the warmongers always look for battlespeak in rhetoric?
http://www.iran-press-service.com/ar...ats_141201.htm
Newbie
Posts: 27
Location: Deep in the ghettos of Southern Tehran
Location: Deep in the ghettos of Southern Tehran
July 10th, 2008, 06:20 PM
I asked for that guy (or anyone) to back up the false claim that was made, and you're doing so by giving me links to the missile exercise?
Some one please tell me this guy's pulling my leg.
Quoting Socrates the Greek
LMAO
Hey Tim look below,
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...le+Search&meta=
http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&q=t...num=1&ct=title
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/109397.html
Your extreme dark right politicians are involved in fueling the fire. Here we see many proven links of these facts. So, the people in Iran may want peace which I am sure is the case, but the extreme right cares more about their stupid personal self hating agenda than peace in the region.
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...le+Search&meta=
http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&q=t...num=1&ct=title
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/109397.html
Your extreme dark right politicians are involved in fueling the fire. Here we see many proven links of these facts. So, the people in Iran may want peace which I am sure is the case, but the extreme right cares more about their stupid personal self hating agenda than peace in the region.
I asked for that guy (or anyone) to back up the false claim that was made, and you're doing so by giving me links to the missile exercise?
Some one please tell me this guy's pulling my leg.
Hawkings former plumber
Posts: 10,261
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Location: RR1 Distopia 666 Discordia Drive Apt 911
July 10th, 2008, 06:26 PM
Quoting TehranTim
I can't, he's serious.
LMAO
I asked for that guy (or anyone) to back up the false claim that was made, and you're doing so by giving me links to the missile exercise?
Some one please tell me this guy's pulling my leg.
I asked for that guy (or anyone) to back up the false claim that was made, and you're doing so by giving me links to the missile exercise?
Some one please tell me this guy's pulling my leg.
Hawkings former plumber
Posts: 10,261
Videos: 3
Location: RR1 Distopia 666 Discordia Drive Apt 911
Videos: 3
Location: RR1 Distopia 666 Discordia Drive Apt 911
July 10th, 2008, 06:32 PM
Quoting lone wolf
Why don't we have better propagandists here at Trip C Wolf? They're a ragged bunch of fanatics and outright madhatters all with broken needles ( needles were used on archaic audio reproduction equipment in the middle of the last century) a real desperate bunch of airheads and hopeless dreamers constantly trying to plug the dam with thier fat fingers.
Oops.... Here's the part our resident propagandist isn't so good at.... That sound you hear is Colpy extracting his feet from his mouth....
Hawkings former plumber
Posts: 10,261
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July 10th, 2008, 06:34 PM
Quoting Colpy
You're almost as crazy as I is, but I is crazy with love man and you ain't.
Perhaps if your leaders didn't speak of using Persian or Arab nuclear weapons against Israel, or if they quit supporting murderous Hamas or genocidal Hezbollah (which murders Jews world-wide) Israel might find something better to do than blow the hell out of potential nuclear arms-making installations.
Mark my words.
There will be no US attack on Iran.
Period.
There might be a limited Israeli strike on nuclear targets in Iran.
the sooner the better.
Mark my words.
There will be no US attack on Iran.
Period.
There might be a limited Israeli strike on nuclear targets in Iran.
the sooner the better.
House Member
Posts: 3,361
July 10th, 2008, 09:23 PM
"Hello? Kettle, this is Pot, I was just calling you to inform you that you are black"
Quoting darkbeaver
Why don't we have better propagandists here at Trip C Wolf? They're a ragged bunch of fanatics and outright madhatters all with broken needles ( needles were used on archaic audio reproduction equipment in the middle of the last century) a real desperate bunch of airheads and hopeless dreamers constantly trying to plug the dam with thier fat fingers.
"Hello? Kettle, this is Pot, I was just calling you to inform you that you are black"
Genius
Posts: 1,325
Location: Toronto
Location: Toronto
July 10th, 2008, 09:36 PM
Quoting Colpy
I grudgingly have to agree with you on this... except the 'the sooner the better' comment. No one needs war.
Perhaps if your leaders didn't speak of using Persian or Arab nuclear weapons against Israel, or if they quit supporting murderous Hamas or genocidal Hezbollah (which murders Jews world-wide) Israel might find something better to do than blow the hell out of potential nuclear arms-making installations.
Mark my words.
There will be no US attack on Iran.
Period.
There might be a limited Israeli strike on nuclear targets in Iran.
the sooner the better.
Mark my words.
There will be no US attack on Iran.
Period.
There might be a limited Israeli strike on nuclear targets in Iran.
the sooner the better.
Electoral Member
Posts: 279
July 11th, 2008, 06:20 AM
Both the U.S. and Israel have not ruled out a military strike on Iran as a last option if it does not give up uranium enrichment and heed other U.N. Security Council demands meant to dispel the fear Tehran wants to make nuclear arms.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080711/oil_prices.html
Oil rebounds as Iran tensions flare
Thursday July 10, 4:23 pm ET
By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer Crude oil prices rebound from recent drop as anxiety escalates over Iranian missiles
Both the U.S. and Israel have not ruled out a military strike on Iran as a last option if it does not give up uranium enrichment and heed other U.N. Security Council demands meant to dispel the fear Tehran wants to make nuclear arms.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080711/oil_prices.html
Oil rebounds as Iran tensions flare
Thursday July 10, 4:23 pm ET
By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer Crude oil prices rebound from recent drop as anxiety escalates over Iranian missiles
Council Member
Posts: 1,732
July 11th, 2008, 06:34 PM
Quoting lone wolf
thanks wolf, good link......
Hey Sock.... Range and target aren't the same thing. That's like saying all Greeks are really Macedonians.
Some religious kook said Muslims should attack Israel with nuclear weapons. Why do the warmongers always look for battlespeak in rhetoric?
http://www.iran-press-service.com/ar...ats_141201.htm
Some religious kook said Muslims should attack Israel with nuclear weapons. Why do the warmongers always look for battlespeak in rhetoric?
http://www.iran-press-service.com/ar...ats_141201.htm
Council Member
Posts: 1,775
Location: BC
Location: BC
July 11th, 2008, 10:06 PM
Quoting Socrates the Greek
Looks like propaganda to me.
thanks wolf, good link......
Grossly Underrated
Posts: 6,254
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
July 11th, 2008, 10:52 PM
Quoting Scott Free
Which part? The part that says it's a cleric trying to stir the pot, or the part where it isn't the Iranian with the actual power to push the button (that is ... if there was a warhead to begin with)
Looks like propaganda to me.
Senate Member
Posts: 5,583
Location: Saint John, N.B.
Location: Saint John, N.B.
July 11th, 2008, 10:57 PM
http://www.iran-press-service.com/ip...-on-iran.shtml
Quoting Scott Free
Iran Press Service is interesting, I couldn't find much about it.....but here is their article about the potential of an israeli strike.....hardly sounds like war-monger propaganda to me.
Looks like propaganda to me.
http://www.iran-press-service.com/ip...-on-iran.shtml
House Member
Posts: 4,558
Location: Minnesota: Gopher State
Location: Minnesota: Gopher State
July 11th, 2008, 11:10 PM
The vast majority of Americans know that Bush wants a war with Iran because his puppet masters in Tel Aviv are telling him how to think. We, the majority, want peace with Iran. Bush is nothing more than a traitor who should have been impeached a long time ago.
Quoting TehranTim
I don't have anything against the US, most people I know have nothing against the US, my government has nothing against the US, but the Israelis for their own geopolitical reasons are pushing hard for an American war on Iran. We'd have normalized relations with the US, and there damn sure wouldn't be talks of a war if it wasn't for Israeli instigation (with the help of their tribesman in Washington like AIPAC and the Neoconservatives).
The vast majority of Americans know that Bush wants a war with Iran because his puppet masters in Tel Aviv are telling him how to think. We, the majority, want peace with Iran. Bush is nothing more than a traitor who should have been impeached a long time ago.
