Mighty Intellect
Posts: 1,923 
Location: in town
Location: in town
May 4th, 2008, 08:52 PM
There Were Orders to Follow
You can often tell if someone understands how wrong their actions are by the lengths to which they go to rationalize them. It took 81 pages of twisted legal reasoning to justify President Bush’s decision to ignore federal law and international treaties and authorize the abuse and torture of prisoners.
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Mr. Yoo, who, inexplicably, teaches law at the University of California, Berkeley, never directly argues that it is legal to chain prisoners to the ceiling for days, sexually abuse them or subject them to waterboarding — all things done by American jailers.
His primary argument, in which he reaches back to 19th-century legal opinions justifying the execution of Indians who rejected the reservation, is that the laws didn’t apply to Mr. Bush because he is commander in chief.
You need to read the full article!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/04/opinion/04fri1.html
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those who order these tortures, and then have laws made that protect them from prosecution should be hanged fron the ceiling for weeks!!!
There Were Orders to Follow
You can often tell if someone understands how wrong their actions are by the lengths to which they go to rationalize them. It took 81 pages of twisted legal reasoning to justify President Bush’s decision to ignore federal law and international treaties and authorize the abuse and torture of prisoners.
......
Mr. Yoo, who, inexplicably, teaches law at the University of California, Berkeley, never directly argues that it is legal to chain prisoners to the ceiling for days, sexually abuse them or subject them to waterboarding — all things done by American jailers.
His primary argument, in which he reaches back to 19th-century legal opinions justifying the execution of Indians who rejected the reservation, is that the laws didn’t apply to Mr. Bush because he is commander in chief.
You need to read the full article!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/04/opinion/04fri1.html
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those who order these tortures, and then have laws made that protect them from prosecution should be hanged fron the ceiling for weeks!!!
Ponderous Intellect
Posts: 4,358
Location: Minnesota: Gopher State
Location: Minnesota: Gopher State
May 4th, 2008, 09:13 PM
those who order these tortures, and then have laws made that protect them from prosecution should be hanged fron the ceiling for weeks!!!
I would go a step further by also hanging all those right wing scoundrels in the NY Times for their WMD propaganda lies and for fomenting war hysteria.
those who order these tortures, and then have laws made that protect them from prosecution should be hanged fron the ceiling for weeks!!!
I would go a step further by also hanging all those right wing scoundrels in the NY Times for their WMD propaganda lies and for fomenting war hysteria.
Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 4,612
May 4th, 2008, 11:38 PM
Once again it's the American way.... at least the neocon Bush Whitehouse way....the "ends" justify the means.
This is a recurrent thread throughout the machinations of government. To believe for a moment that there exists anything even remotely resembling "principle" in the minds of people today is self-delusional. "Principle" died with the mind conditioned to accept anything under the proxy rationals of "patriotism" and "idealism" or "morality".
There are no principles today except of course the one that allows everyone to avoid taking responsibility for anything and everything.
Once again it's the American way.... at least the neocon Bush Whitehouse way....the "ends" justify the means.
This is a recurrent thread throughout the machinations of government. To believe for a moment that there exists anything even remotely resembling "principle" in the minds of people today is self-delusional. "Principle" died with the mind conditioned to accept anything under the proxy rationals of "patriotism" and "idealism" or "morality".
There are no principles today except of course the one that allows everyone to avoid taking responsibility for anything and everything.
