The Angry Beaver
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April 18th, 2008, 02:00 PM
Simpsons during the day corrupting our kids?
You want to corrupt children's minds, throw Robot Chicken on at 10am and see what education they get from that show.
I don't see much in The Simpsons which would offend Chavez or go against their ways per-say. If anything the show expresses a lower mentality culture (The show, not the country they're in) mostly American based comedy and situations which most might not even relate to all that well, and focuses primarily on the typical disfunctional family of the culture in which it entertains.
Perhaps all he wants is just to have shows on that have content and some level of education to it. Simpsons, although I enjoy the show, is funny and all that..... but there's very little in education compared to other shows such as Baywatch mentioned in Post 1.
Baywatch might be a bunch of men and women not wearing much and bouncing around on the beach, but from my memory as a kid, it still had morals, lessons, trials and problems people had to deal with in it...... cheesy as hell mind you, but they were there none the less. Much more so then The Simpsons.
Simpsons during the day corrupting our kids?
You want to corrupt children's minds, throw Robot Chicken on at 10am and see what education they get from that show.
I don't see much in The Simpsons which would offend Chavez or go against their ways per-say. If anything the show expresses a lower mentality culture (The show, not the country they're in) mostly American based comedy and situations which most might not even relate to all that well, and focuses primarily on the typical disfunctional family of the culture in which it entertains.
Perhaps all he wants is just to have shows on that have content and some level of education to it. Simpsons, although I enjoy the show, is funny and all that..... but there's very little in education compared to other shows such as Baywatch mentioned in Post 1.
Baywatch might be a bunch of men and women not wearing much and bouncing around on the beach, but from my memory as a kid, it still had morals, lessons, trials and problems people had to deal with in it...... cheesy as hell mind you, but they were there none the less. Much more so then The Simpsons.
April 18th, 2008, 02:05 PM
Quoting Praxius
There are kids in my son's and daughter's classes who watch Robot Chicken, because it comes on Teletoon East at about 9PM our time, when mom and dad still haven't bothered to put Timmy and Sue to bed, and aren't watching what they're watching. Teletoon's a cartoon channel, so it must be fine, right? Right?
Simpsons during the day corrupting our kids?
You want to corrupt children's minds, throw Robot Chicken on at 10am and see what education they get from that show.
You want to corrupt children's minds, throw Robot Chicken on at 10am and see what education they get from that show.
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April 18th, 2008, 02:11 PM
Quoting karrie
You are right Karrie. Cartoons targeted at a mature audience should be banned henceforth due to cartoons historically being created for children and there is nothing worse then a confused child.
There are kids in my son's and daughter's classes who watch Robot Chicken, because it comes on Teletoon East at about 9PM our time, when mom and dad still haven't bothered to put Timmy and Sue to bed, and aren't watching what they're watching. Teletoon's a cartoon channel, so it must be fine, right? Right?
April 18th, 2008, 02:15 PM
Quoting DurkaDurka
? How'd you get that?
You are right Karrie. Cartoons targeted at a mature audience should be banned henceforth due to cartoons historically being created for children and there is nothing worse then a confused child.
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April 18th, 2008, 02:48 PM
That he and his cohorts have not been hung for treason would indicate that it is a lack-luster attempt. What % of the US 'masses' still think Saddam was involved in 911?
"The popular US cartoon about the yellow dysfunctional family was branded "inappropriate" and pulled by the country's television authorities."
And put in a more appropriate time-slot, how many times does that point need to be explained to you?
Well go ahead and post some links that show that, a search of 'Shaw' brings up an after-school time slot.
I assume you 'might' be (and I do mean maybe) less influenced than a pre-schooler. Do you make all the pre-schoolers you know watch it?
As a Canadian what gives you the right to decide who can watch what and at what time in another country? Like the second link shows, it was moved to a later time so that the 'working adults' can also watch it, after all it is meant for people who know more about society than pre-schoolers. I still know people who don't let the 'youngest' watch South Park, just because it is in cartoon form doesn't give it a 'G' rating. What is the TV 'rating' for the Simpsons, I would bet it is meant for 12 and older? Oops I was off a bit. TV-14
Quoting DurkaDurka
If the Taliban can have broadband in caves why wouldn't I have it also?
Obviously you have been living in a cave MHZ, there is critique of the US president all the time, from pretty much all US broadcasters besides Fox.
That he and his cohorts have not been hung for treason would indicate that it is a lack-luster attempt. What % of the US 'masses' still think Saddam was involved in 911?
Quoting DurkaDurka
So the BBC is spreading lies?
Also, the stations didn't pull the show, they were forced to. 
"The popular US cartoon about the yellow dysfunctional family was branded "inappropriate" and pulled by the country's television authorities."
And put in a more appropriate time-slot, how many times does that point need to be explained to you?
Quoting DurkaDurka
And you probably do, regularly, even the re-runs as you may not grasp the 'whole message' the first time around.
Quite a few channels broadcast it at that time here actually. I can watch the Simpsons 24/7 if I so feel inclined, via teletoon, comedy network etc. I suppose you would approve of having the Simpsons removed from the 3-5pm slots as well as that is another time where children may be able to watch TV unattended.
Well go ahead and post some links that show that, a search of 'Shaw' brings up an after-school time slot.
I assume you 'might' be (and I do mean maybe) less influenced than a pre-schooler. Do you make all the pre-schoolers you know watch it?
As a Canadian what gives you the right to decide who can watch what and at what time in another country? Like the second link shows, it was moved to a later time so that the 'working adults' can also watch it, after all it is meant for people who know more about society than pre-schoolers. I still know people who don't let the 'youngest' watch South Park, just because it is in cartoon form doesn't give it a 'G' rating. What is the TV 'rating' for the Simpsons, I would bet it is meant for 12 and older? Oops I was off a bit. TV-14
The Angry Beaver
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April 18th, 2008, 02:50 PM
On a side note, the majority of motion pictures when the technology first came out was mostly pornography.
Quoting DurkaDurka
Actually cartoons were not originally invented to entertain children, they just ended up that way.... if you wanted to get historical about it.
You are right Karrie. Cartoons targeted at a mature audience should be banned henceforth due to cartoons historically being created for children and there is nothing worse then a confused child.
On a side note, the majority of motion pictures when the technology first came out was mostly pornography.
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April 18th, 2008, 03:07 PM
Quoting DurkaDurka
For somebody with a bay-watch avatar I would have thought you would be thrilled at the news.
You are right Karrie. Cartoons targeted at a mature audience should be banned henceforth due to cartoons historically being created for children and there is nothing worse then a confused child.
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April 18th, 2008, 03:21 PM
I said, and I repeat, the state has no business telling parents what their children should or shouldn't watch.
Quoting karrie
That's not even close to what I said.
Do you think the US interferes less in what is shown and when on tv than Chavez has?
I said, and I repeat, the state has no business telling parents what their children should or shouldn't watch.
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April 18th, 2008, 03:24 PM
So Yahoo news lies MHZ?
It seems pretty clear to me that this station was forced to move the show from this slot, it wasn't voluntary.
"Venezuela has forced U.S. cartoon "The Simpsons" off its airwaves, calling the show a potentially bad influence on children, and filled its morning slot with reruns of the beach-and-bikini show "Baywatch."
"Conatel said it started proceedings against the morning airing of the show after complaints from viewers."
You obviously have just cherry picked in the thread, why don't you go felate your self elsewhere?
Quoting MHz
I don't really care for your political musings, MHZ. What I stated was that US networks do criticize Bush.
If the Taliban can have broadband in caves why wouldn't I have it also?
That he and his cohorts have not been hung for treason would indicate that it is a lack-luster attempt. What % of the US 'masses' still think Saddam was involved in 911?
That he and his cohorts have not been hung for treason would indicate that it is a lack-luster attempt. What % of the US 'masses' still think Saddam was involved in 911?
Quoting
From http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080409/...zuela_simpsons
So the BBC is spreading lies?
"The popular US cartoon about the yellow dysfunctional family was branded "inappropriate" and pulled by the country's television authorities."
"The popular US cartoon about the yellow dysfunctional family was branded "inappropriate" and pulled by the country's television authorities."
So Yahoo news lies MHZ?
It seems pretty clear to me that this station was forced to move the show from this slot, it wasn't voluntary.
"Venezuela has forced U.S. cartoon "The Simpsons" off its airwaves, calling the show a potentially bad influence on children, and filled its morning slot with reruns of the beach-and-bikini show "Baywatch."
"Conatel said it started proceedings against the morning airing of the show after complaints from viewers."
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Piss off with your condescending BS, alright mhz? I'm quite capable of interpreting what was said.
And put in a more appropriate time-slot, how many times does that point need to be explained to you?
Quote:
Actually, I rarely watch the TV show thanks nor would I suggest that it ideal programming for a child. If you read back a bit you would see that I took exception with it being labeled as "depraved".
And you probably do, regularly, even the re-runs as you may not grasp the 'whole message' the first time around.
Well go ahead and post some links that show that, a search of 'Shaw' brings up an after-school time slot.
I assume you 'might' be (and I do mean maybe) less influenced than a pre-schooler. Do you make all the pre-schoolers you know watch it?
Well go ahead and post some links that show that, a search of 'Shaw' brings up an after-school time slot.
I assume you 'might' be (and I do mean maybe) less influenced than a pre-schooler. Do you make all the pre-schoolers you know watch it?
You obviously have just cherry picked in the thread, why don't you go felate your self elsewhere?
Quote:
I don't care what a country broadcasts MHZ. I will say it again since you are incredibly dense. "I took exception to the Simpsons being labeled "depraved".
As a Canadian what gives you the right to decide who can watch what and at what time in another country? Like the second link shows, it was moved to a later time so that the 'working adults' can also watch it, after all it is meant for people who know more about society than pre-schoolers. I still know people who don't let the 'youngest' watch South Park, just because it is in cartoon form doesn't give it a 'G' rating. What is the TV 'rating' for the Simpsons, I would bet it is meant for 12 and older? Oops I was off a bit. TV-14
April 18th, 2008, 03:27 PM
Quoting I think not
I didn't say it was what you said... it's a question I asked you. Because right now the US does regulate what is on tv, when, and what content is in it. So I was curious as to how you thought the two compared if you think the state has no right to do that. I frankly wouldn't have pegged you as someone who felt that there should be no restrictions on tv whatsoever. But I guess, really, I haven't spent a whole ton of time exploring politics with you.
That's not even close to what I said.
I said, and I repeat, the state has no business telling parents what their children should or shouldn't watch.
I said, and I repeat, the state has no business telling parents what their children should or shouldn't watch.
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April 18th, 2008, 03:31 PM
Yeah, porn has a long history with early adoption of emerging technologies.
-VHS
-DVD
-HTTP
-BluRay
-PPV
Quoting Praxius
I know, I was being a smartass with Karrie.
Actually cartoons were not originally invented to entertain children, they just ended up that way.... if you wanted to get historical about it.
On a side note, the majority of motion pictures when the technology first came out was mostly pornography.
On a side note, the majority of motion pictures when the technology first came out was mostly pornography.
Yeah, porn has a long history with early adoption of emerging technologies.
-VHS
-DVD
-HTTP
-BluRay
-PPV
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April 18th, 2008, 03:32 PM
Quoting Praxius
That is an interesting thing ain't it Praxius, photography was the same way and painting. Do you know where a friend of mine can buy some antique porn?
Actually cartoons were not originally invented to entertain children, they just ended up that way.... if you wanted to get historical about it.
On a side note, the majority of motion pictures when the technology first came out was mostly pornography.
On a side note, the majority of motion pictures when the technology first came out was mostly pornography.
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April 18th, 2008, 03:33 PM
Where this is imposed is irrelevant.
Quoting karrie
The state has no business telling parents what their children should watch or not.
I didn't say it was what you said... it's a question I asked you. Because right now the US does regulate what is on tv, when, and what content is in it. So I was curious as to how you thought the two compared if you think the state has no right to do that. I frankly wouldn't have pegged you as someone who felt that there should be no restrictions on tv whatsoever. But I guess, really, I haven't spent a whole ton of time exploring politics with you.
Where this is imposed is irrelevant.
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April 18th, 2008, 03:37 PM
Its pretty expensive if you don't want a digital reproduction, but you'd be surprised how many antique stores carry antique pornography.
Quoting darkbeaver
That is an interesting thing ain't it Praxius, photography was the same way and painting. Do you know where a friend of mine can buy some antique porn?
Its pretty expensive if you don't want a digital reproduction, but you'd be surprised how many antique stores carry antique pornography.
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April 18th, 2008, 03:39 PM
(remember the episode about "Stealing Cable")
Quoting Praxius
Its less so now (the last maybe 5 years) but the Simpsons actually used to have alot of morality messages within them, sometimes pretty blatant,
Baywatch might be a bunch of men and women not wearing much and bouncing around on the beach, but from my memory as a kid, it still had morals, lessons, trials and problems people had to deal with in it...... cheesy as hell mind you, but they were there none the less. Much more so then The Simpsons.
(remember the episode about "Stealing Cable")
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April 18th, 2008, 03:39 PM
Quoting darkbeaver
I have a 1987 Hustler mag, is that antique enough for him? The magazine is in mint condition, no stuck pages.
That is an interesting thing ain't it Praxius, photography was the same way and painting. Do you know where a friend of mine can buy some antique porn?
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April 18th, 2008, 04:01 PM
How about something from the country in question.
http://www.conatel.gov.ve/
Here is the translation in case you can't read Spanish.
""the Simpsons does not support an ethical examination" "the means are not untouchable. Them social responsibility is due to demand ". (Press, Conatel) Fernando Good Abbot, one of the most prestigious philosophers and historians of the communication in Latin America, visited the seat of Conatel (National Commission of Telecommunications), in which he affirmed that the series "the Simpsons" violates the fundamental human rights. "To the light of the ethical protocols, taken from the human rights established internationally, the series created in 1989 does not pass the examination most elementary. The xenophobia, the machismo, the intrafamiliar violence, the mockery and satanización of the Latin American leaders are at your service of the day. There is an offensive content that is proud, for example, in turning Fidel I castrate in a thief and to Hugo Chávez in a desperate terrorist to buy uranium. The Simpsons makes of the decay of the North American family a spectacle ". Fernando Good Abbot announced, in this respect, who tomorrow Friday 18, to 10,30 in the morning, will offer in the Celarg a conference in which will analyze the series the Simpsons, titled "the decay like entertainment", invited by the Committee by the Defense of the Human rights of Children, children, adolescents and of the woman, the Committee of "Mothers by a television without violence" and the Committee of Psychological defense. The philosopher advanced, during his conversation with the Chief of a main directorate of Conatel Elda Rodriguez, who "the means are not untouchable. One is due to demand to them that they fulfill the social responsibility that the law them guideline. This is an instrument of the social will, of all those that are defenseless front to the television. It is necessary to go to a interlocution with the users, to find the voices collective that they expose the psychological wounds that the TV them cause ". Good Abbot, that he will be in Venezuela by one more week, postulated that a great internacionalist current in the communication that promotes the fight against all blockade mediatic internal and external, the fight against the alienation and the debate must be created on the new languages. "As which it serves to us to have new mass media if we continued using the language of the pattern" it was asked. "the Venezuelans must understand that no debate around the mediatic terrorism is exclusively national. What it is happening in Venezuela in this field is of the interest of all Latin America. Even what it happened the 11 of April of 2002 had as epicenter the social communication and this absolutely is still not included/understood. Venezuela must advance to create Masters in Communication of State and particularly of the revolutionary State "."
Quoting DurkaDurka
Prove it with some links to such.
I don't really care for your political musings, MHZ. What I stated was that US networks do criticize Bush.
Quoting DurkaDurka
And who is Conatel? It isn't the Prez now is it? It isn't 'the country' now is it?
From http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080409/...zuela_simpsons
So Yahoo news lies MHZ?
It seems pretty clear to me that this station was forced to move the show from this slot, it wasn't voluntary.
"Venezuela has forced U.S. cartoon "The Simpsons" off its airwaves, calling the show a potentially bad influence on children, and filled its morning slot with reruns of the beach-and-bikini show "Baywatch."
"Conatel said it started proceedings against the morning airing of the show after complaints from viewers."
So Yahoo news lies MHZ?
It seems pretty clear to me that this station was forced to move the show from this slot, it wasn't voluntary.
"Venezuela has forced U.S. cartoon "The Simpsons" off its airwaves, calling the show a potentially bad influence on children, and filled its morning slot with reruns of the beach-and-bikini show "Baywatch."
"Conatel said it started proceedings against the morning airing of the show after complaints from viewers."
Quoting DurkaDurka
I have yet to see that talent in action.
Piss off with your condescending BS, alright mhz? I'm quite capable of interpreting what was said.
Quoting DurkaDurka
Is it suitable for pre-schoolers or not? That is what the 11AM time-slots are for.
Actually, I rarely watch the TV show thanks nor would I suggest that it ideal programming for a child. If you read back a bit you would see that I took exception with it being labeled as "depraved".
How about something from the country in question.
http://www.conatel.gov.ve/
Here is the translation in case you can't read Spanish.
""the Simpsons does not support an ethical examination" "the means are not untouchable. Them social responsibility is due to demand ". (Press, Conatel) Fernando Good Abbot, one of the most prestigious philosophers and historians of the communication in Latin America, visited the seat of Conatel (National Commission of Telecommunications), in which he affirmed that the series "the Simpsons" violates the fundamental human rights. "To the light of the ethical protocols, taken from the human rights established internationally, the series created in 1989 does not pass the examination most elementary. The xenophobia, the machismo, the intrafamiliar violence, the mockery and satanización of the Latin American leaders are at your service of the day. There is an offensive content that is proud, for example, in turning Fidel I castrate in a thief and to Hugo Chávez in a desperate terrorist to buy uranium. The Simpsons makes of the decay of the North American family a spectacle ". Fernando Good Abbot announced, in this respect, who tomorrow Friday 18, to 10,30 in the morning, will offer in the Celarg a conference in which will analyze the series the Simpsons, titled "the decay like entertainment", invited by the Committee by the Defense of the Human rights of Children, children, adolescents and of the woman, the Committee of "Mothers by a television without violence" and the Committee of Psychological defense. The philosopher advanced, during his conversation with the Chief of a main directorate of Conatel Elda Rodriguez, who "the means are not untouchable. One is due to demand to them that they fulfill the social responsibility that the law them guideline. This is an instrument of the social will, of all those that are defenseless front to the television. It is necessary to go to a interlocution with the users, to find the voices collective that they expose the psychological wounds that the TV them cause ". Good Abbot, that he will be in Venezuela by one more week, postulated that a great internacionalist current in the communication that promotes the fight against all blockade mediatic internal and external, the fight against the alienation and the debate must be created on the new languages. "As which it serves to us to have new mass media if we continued using the language of the pattern" it was asked. "the Venezuelans must understand that no debate around the mediatic terrorism is exclusively national. What it is happening in Venezuela in this field is of the interest of all Latin America. Even what it happened the 11 of April of 2002 had as epicenter the social communication and this absolutely is still not included/understood. Venezuela must advance to create Masters in Communication of State and particularly of the revolutionary State "."
Quoting DurkaDurka
If I was going to do that why on earth would I pick a post by you, of all people? As for the other, I'll start a thread in the cage.
You obviously have just cherry picked in the thread, why don't you go felate your self elsewhere?
Quoting DurkaDurka
For pre-schoolers it is, that is why it has a TV-14 rating, I'll automatically post that simple message again just for your benefit.
I don't care what a country broadcasts MHZ. I will say it again since you are incredibly dense. "I took exception to the Simpsons being labeled "depraved".
