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First of all, I know the Chinese Government is called the Chinese Communist Party, but I wonder is it really with all the changes made still a Communist Party or is it now a Socialist Party?
The reason I ask this is because the name of CCP actually is used in a negative sense in all the Western media. You might say 'What else should it be deffered to as?', and here I will make my point.
If we go back in history to the time of Napoleon and a young America we find the first instances of Western populations hearing about huge civil change. France got rid of its Royalty and the peasants were in charge and America cut its shackles from Great Britain. The Monachies of Europe were stunned that this could happen. Then in 1917 Russia became Communist. A frigtening thing for the West and this was followed by Communist uprisings in many European countries and particularly Germany which became one of the pretexts for a Facist Government. In the post-war years China became Communist and a place to be feared and this was followed by the Communist hunt downs in the U.S in McCathy years in the post Korean war period after the Communists from the North fought the South. Vietnam also featured a Communist Government. In all of these periods the peoples of the West were media fed about the evils of Communism and the word has become synonmous with something unpleasant. Just the word was enough to strike fear.
What is my point. My point is that when the foreign media talk or write about China they always embelish their stories with the word Communist to add a phsycological negativity to the story. The media rarely talk about. 'The Chinese Govenment'' it is always the Communist Government. They tell their stories using ' Communist Troops have entered the city, rather than troops ar the army. The ruling Communist Party rather than the Government. Zhang Qingli, the region's Communist Party secretary, its top official. If you study foreign media reports you will be quite surprised in the frequency of the word 'Communist' for reports on China. If you do the same exercise for reports on America or other countries including Vietnam you will not find the words Republican, Democrat, or Communist with the same frequency. Especially if they are in relation to a bad weather report or similar.
This negativity is pandering to sensationalism by using a word which has feared historical roots. Because the Government in China calls itself the Communist Party it is open to this treatment from the Western Media and is possibly even unaware of this.
I wonder with all the changes that China has gone through and its opening up to the world and commercialism is it not time for the ruling party to consider a name change to reflect this new era and become the Socialist Party of China or something other. This would reflect its new ideals and place in the world and has a modern feel. Of course who am I to sugest this. But I wonder how the people of this forum feel about the old name of the Government which is so over used by the media in relation to where China is today. 2008-4-1 10:27 PM#1
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Status Offline An interesting point. Most westerners have no idea that China is really a country of socialist market economy. They confuse the name 'communist' with everything else - social and economic system, government, education, production, distribution, phylosophy, arts, culture...
You will find many a time when you have to explain to them what the differences are. You will still have to keep explaining to more of them and there is no less confusion. You probably tried to refrain from the urge of telling them how ignorant they are about their own western political and economic phylosophies - Carl Marx was a westerner, right?
They have no notion about the distinct difference between the two ideas from Marx:
- From each according to his ability, to each according to his work (a socialist ideal)
- From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs (a communism ideal)
However, most western governments have no problem trying to follow Marx's ideas in their own way. Just look at their expensive social welfare systems that allocate huge sums of money to aid the disadvantaged, the unemployed, the disabled, the deprived, the discharged, the disloged, the diseased, the disaster-stricken... Sounds pretty much like "to each according to his needs", doesn't it? Sounds like a reasonable idea, doesn't it? Who's idea? Why care?
Many business entities undertake brand name changes and logo redesigns to enhance their image. For example, Philip Morris changed to Altria to shake off the negative association between tobacco and the company to catch up with people's changing attitude toward smoking. AT&T redesigned its logo to bring out a global feel. Coca-Cola probably has redesigned its logo more than once... 2008-4-3 11:55 PM#3
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Imagine the world in 1949 in China after nearly 50 years of struggle against war, poverty, and subversive politics. China must have been so proud to be finally reunited and many people had laid down their lives to create the People's Republic of China. The word 'Communist' must have been a very proud boast in a world controlled by religion, monarchies and oligarthies. What a proud time for the people of China to finally be rid of the legacy of the cruel Emporers and the foreign invaders.
But just as Deng Xiao Ping took that very brave step to change the political thinking in China which has made China so successful and able to realize what a great power the dragon is. So maybe the modern political party should look at how it represents it's image to the modern world and not be worried about re-branding in a world full of image. After all, it is not the name but the image. This is where we come full circle to the post about China's image and P.R to the rest of the world. You have to appeal to the average consumer in the world. Their hopes and fears, their wishes and dreams.
These ordinary people are not necessarily very intelligent but there opinion is very important. Ask McDonalds. 2008-4-4 01:21 PM#4
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Status Offline I've been thinking this very same thing. The CCP right now has ideologies enshrined in it that are definitely not communist and certainly not Marxist. However I think it has to be understood also that socialist isn't a very good name change because there's still some negativity towards that word.
There are socialist parties in Europe so there's not as much stigma but here in the U.S. and maybe some European countries the term socialist also carries with it a negative connotation.
Also, socialism typically emphasizes on state-ownership of business. I think a more appropriate rename would be Chinese People's Party. 2008-4-5 09:05 AM#5
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Hi there,
Good point. I was not very keen on the word Socialist when I lived in the U.K as you rightly say it was stigmatized by the Nationalization of industry and strange politicians who wanted to punish people who worked hard and made any money. The U.S has Republicans and Democrats and if they have Socialsits then they are obviously not very popular. My point is that the word Communism is used like swearing in the news and does not help the modern Chinese cause and as you rightly say the word Socialism might be used negatively.
The Chinese People's Party is a very good name and expresses very well the nature of China's politics. It could not be used by the media to add negativity to any news about China.
So that is two votes in favour so far.
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More like a hybrid between capitalism and socialism.
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See the following thread. May be it could answer you a little.
http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/vie ... &extra=page%3D1
Infect, China originaly is a communist country and then it started Socialist reforms some 30 years back and those socialist reforms making China very successfull.
I think if China initiated socialist reforms, that does not mean that China transformed from Communism to Socialism. Infect, they are opening doors to all opertunities to operate for the welfare of their nation.
This is my observation, according to my limited information about political situation in China. 2008-4-7 08:12 PM#8
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Just Fool themselves.
China just doesn't give a damn to this ideological and vicious profiling. Keep amusing yourselves.
2008-4-7 10:00 PM#9
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This would be in the same way as the U.K Government still refer to Beijing as Peking. 2008-4-7 10:13 PM#10
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It allows Western media to portray China as still in the iron-like grip of the sort of authoritarian Communists who ruled in the lands of the enemy like the Soviet Union, Eastern Germany, etc, and the people to be portrayed as a downtrodden, bland and faceless mass of identical victims.
Socialist has the same connotation in the US but not in Europe where, er, most countries are a bit socialist.
A name change would be beneficial in foreign affairs PR, but then that isn't the most pressing priority I imagine 2008-4-7 10:59 PM#11
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Originally posted by expatter at 4/1/08 09:27 AM
First of all, I know the Chinese Government is called the Chinese Communist Party, but I wonder is it really with all the changes made still a Communist Party or is it now a Socialist Party?
The ...
the only nation that i could think of is CUBA...VN & CHN are pretty much engaging in international business trades (chinadaily is right for his view)
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Originally posted by chinadaily at 2008-4-8 00:00
Till today, AP, Reuters and AFP and most Westerm mainstream press stubbornly (and intentionally) label China as a Communist country.
Just Fool themselves.
And what does the ruling political party of China call itself ?
2008-4-8 07:14 AM#14
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The same goes for most people in western society.
CHINA IS NOT COMMUNIST.
It is a hybrid mix of socialism and capitalism and works a darn sight better than any western government.
Smart government for smart people.
Watch the bleating and squealing increase as China shows the world what good government can do.
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still remember a year ago, I debated, fiercely, at a seminar organized by the Beijing Foreign Studies Univerity, with a foreign correspondent that Whether China remains a communist country. And, this foreign journalist based in Beijing challenged me that because your country's ruling party is still called CCP, that means China remains communist.
I said annoyed, but smilingly, how "blind" our foreign friends are kept? Why don't these foreign reporters based in Beijing, Shanghai and elsewhere in China, open their eyes and knock their skulls a little bit harder, that what you are seeing and hearing in China now are still related to communist ???
As a reporter, you cannot fool (or can I say whitewash) your home readers by claiming China, more than 30 years after Mao Ze-dong died, a communist state. This is very irresponsible working attitude. I said to his face: You are fooling yourself, and misleading your readers at home.
That was a bitter and very heated quarrel with somebody, I have ever been brought into,
if I remember. 2008-4-8 11:43 AM#16
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am I right?
Communist country? is the least of what We Chinese people want. 2008-4-8 11:48 AM#17
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After all we see this and that "democratic" part which are not democratic.
It is a name only.
Foreign journalists have no idea about China.
They think they can come here, stay in a 5 star hotel and know all the answers in a few days.
What rubbish.
I fear that foreign media consultants will be no better...
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not only did they stay in five-star hotels in Beijing and Shanghai, they have also come to China with color-glasses, and stereotyped brain-frames.
no wonder that many western press reports (about China) are notoriously biased.
and as a result, their readers at home are disinformed and fooled. 2008-4-8 02:21 PM#19
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Thanks, zglobal.
not only did they stay in five-star hotels in Beijing and Shanghai, they have also come to China with color-glasses, and stereotyped brain-frames.
no wonder that may west ...
CD,
It's a very successful blend of socialism, capitalism and state capitalism. Unique all over the world. This is it what makes people in the West shiver. They don't have an answer to this attractive form of government. For many nations China is like a magnet, they are keen to learn more about China's economic miracle. I bet that in the next 10, 20 years we'll see several copies of this model in other developing countries. Vietnam already embraced it. 2008-4-8 02:39 PM#20
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First of all, I know the Chinese Government is called the Chinese Communist Party, but I wonder is it really with all the changes made still a Communist Party or is it now a Socialist Party?
The reason I ask this is because the name of CCP actually is used in a negative sense in all the Western media. You might say 'What else should it be deffered to as?', and here I will make my point.
If we go back in history to the time of Napoleon and a young America we find the first instances of Western populations hearing about huge civil change. France got rid of its Royalty and the peasants were in charge and America cut its shackles from Great Britain. The Monachies of Europe were stunned that this could happen. Then in 1917 Russia became Communist. A frigtening thing for the West and this was followed by Communist uprisings in many European countries and particularly Germany which became one of the pretexts for a Facist Government. In the post-war years China became Communist and a place to be feared and this was followed by the Communist hunt downs in the U.S in McCathy years in the post Korean war period after the Communists from the North fought the South. Vietnam also featured a Communist Government. In all of these periods the peoples of the West were media fed about the evils of Communism and the word has become synonmous with something unpleasant. Just the word was enough to strike fear.
What is my point. My point is that when the foreign media talk or write about China they always embelish their stories with the word Communist to add a phsycological negativity to the story. The media rarely talk about. 'The Chinese Govenment'' it is always the Communist Government. They tell their stories using ' Communist Troops have entered the city, rather than troops ar the army. The ruling Communist Party rather than the Government. Zhang Qingli, the region's Communist Party secretary, its top official. If you study foreign media reports you will be quite surprised in the frequency of the word 'Communist' for reports on China. If you do the same exercise for reports on America or other countries including Vietnam you will not find the words Republican, Democrat, or Communist with the same frequency. Especially if they are in relation to a bad weather report or similar.
This negativity is pandering to sensationalism by using a word which has feared historical roots. Because the Government in China calls itself the Communist Party it is open to this treatment from the Western Media and is possibly even unaware of this.
I wonder with all the changes that China has gone through and its opening up to the world and commercialism is it not time for the ruling party to consider a name change to reflect this new era and become the Socialist Party of China or something other. This would reflect its new ideals and place in the world and has a modern feel. Of course who am I to sugest this. But I wonder how the people of this forum feel about the old name of the Government which is so over used by the media in relation to where China is today. 2008-4-1 10:27 PM#1
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Status Offline An interesting point. Most westerners have no idea that China is really a country of socialist market economy. They confuse the name 'communist' with everything else - social and economic system, government, education, production, distribution, phylosophy, arts, culture...
You will find many a time when you have to explain to them what the differences are. You will still have to keep explaining to more of them and there is no less confusion. You probably tried to refrain from the urge of telling them how ignorant they are about their own western political and economic phylosophies - Carl Marx was a westerner, right?
They have no notion about the distinct difference between the two ideas from Marx:
- From each according to his ability, to each according to his work (a socialist ideal)
- From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs (a communism ideal)
However, most western governments have no problem trying to follow Marx's ideas in their own way. Just look at their expensive social welfare systems that allocate huge sums of money to aid the disadvantaged, the unemployed, the disabled, the deprived, the discharged, the disloged, the diseased, the disaster-stricken... Sounds pretty much like "to each according to his needs", doesn't it? Sounds like a reasonable idea, doesn't it? Who's idea? Why care?
Many business entities undertake brand name changes and logo redesigns to enhance their image. For example, Philip Morris changed to Altria to shake off the negative association between tobacco and the company to catch up with people's changing attitude toward smoking. AT&T redesigned its logo to bring out a global feel. Coca-Cola probably has redesigned its logo more than once... 2008-4-3 11:55 PM#3
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Imagine the world in 1949 in China after nearly 50 years of struggle against war, poverty, and subversive politics. China must have been so proud to be finally reunited and many people had laid down their lives to create the People's Republic of China. The word 'Communist' must have been a very proud boast in a world controlled by religion, monarchies and oligarthies. What a proud time for the people of China to finally be rid of the legacy of the cruel Emporers and the foreign invaders.
But just as Deng Xiao Ping took that very brave step to change the political thinking in China which has made China so successful and able to realize what a great power the dragon is. So maybe the modern political party should look at how it represents it's image to the modern world and not be worried about re-branding in a world full of image. After all, it is not the name but the image. This is where we come full circle to the post about China's image and P.R to the rest of the world. You have to appeal to the average consumer in the world. Their hopes and fears, their wishes and dreams.
These ordinary people are not necessarily very intelligent but there opinion is very important. Ask McDonalds. 2008-4-4 01:21 PM#4
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Status Offline I've been thinking this very same thing. The CCP right now has ideologies enshrined in it that are definitely not communist and certainly not Marxist. However I think it has to be understood also that socialist isn't a very good name change because there's still some negativity towards that word.
There are socialist parties in Europe so there's not as much stigma but here in the U.S. and maybe some European countries the term socialist also carries with it a negative connotation.
Also, socialism typically emphasizes on state-ownership of business. I think a more appropriate rename would be Chinese People's Party. 2008-4-5 09:05 AM#5
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Hi there,
Good point. I was not very keen on the word Socialist when I lived in the U.K as you rightly say it was stigmatized by the Nationalization of industry and strange politicians who wanted to punish people who worked hard and made any money. The U.S has Republicans and Democrats and if they have Socialsits then they are obviously not very popular. My point is that the word Communism is used like swearing in the news and does not help the modern Chinese cause and as you rightly say the word Socialism might be used negatively.
The Chinese People's Party is a very good name and expresses very well the nature of China's politics. It could not be used by the media to add negativity to any news about China.
So that is two votes in favour so far.
. 2008-4-5 01:22 PM#6
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More like a hybrid between capitalism and socialism.
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See the following thread. May be it could answer you a little.
http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/vie ... &extra=page%3D1
Infect, China originaly is a communist country and then it started Socialist reforms some 30 years back and those socialist reforms making China very successfull.
I think if China initiated socialist reforms, that does not mean that China transformed from Communism to Socialism. Infect, they are opening doors to all opertunities to operate for the welfare of their nation.
This is my observation, according to my limited information about political situation in China. 2008-4-7 08:12 PM#8
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Just Fool themselves.
China just doesn't give a damn to this ideological and vicious profiling. Keep amusing yourselves.
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This would be in the same way as the U.K Government still refer to Beijing as Peking. 2008-4-7 10:13 PM#10
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It allows Western media to portray China as still in the iron-like grip of the sort of authoritarian Communists who ruled in the lands of the enemy like the Soviet Union, Eastern Germany, etc, and the people to be portrayed as a downtrodden, bland and faceless mass of identical victims.
Socialist has the same connotation in the US but not in Europe where, er, most countries are a bit socialist.
A name change would be beneficial in foreign affairs PR, but then that isn't the most pressing priority I imagine 2008-4-7 10:59 PM#11
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by expatter at 4/1/08 09:27 AM
First of all, I know the Chinese Government is called the Chinese Communist Party, but I wonder is it really with all the changes made still a Communist Party or is it now a Socialist Party?
The ...
the only nation that i could think of is CUBA...VN & CHN are pretty much engaging in international business trades (chinadaily is right for his view)
2008-4-7 11:22 PM#13
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Originally posted by chinadaily at 2008-4-8 00:00
Till today, AP, Reuters and AFP and most Westerm mainstream press stubbornly (and intentionally) label China as a Communist country.
Just Fool themselves.
And what does the ruling political party of China call itself ?
2008-4-8 07:14 AM#14
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The same goes for most people in western society.
CHINA IS NOT COMMUNIST.
It is a hybrid mix of socialism and capitalism and works a darn sight better than any western government.
Smart government for smart people.
Watch the bleating and squealing increase as China shows the world what good government can do.
2008-4-8 11:02 AM#15
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still remember a year ago, I debated, fiercely, at a seminar organized by the Beijing Foreign Studies Univerity, with a foreign correspondent that Whether China remains a communist country. And, this foreign journalist based in Beijing challenged me that because your country's ruling party is still called CCP, that means China remains communist.
I said annoyed, but smilingly, how "blind" our foreign friends are kept? Why don't these foreign reporters based in Beijing, Shanghai and elsewhere in China, open their eyes and knock their skulls a little bit harder, that what you are seeing and hearing in China now are still related to communist ???
That was a bitter and very heated quarrel with somebody, I have ever been brought into,
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am I right?
Communist country? is the least of what We Chinese people want. 2008-4-8 11:48 AM#17
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After all we see this and that "democratic" part which are not democratic.
It is a name only.
Foreign journalists have no idea about China.
They think they can come here, stay in a 5 star hotel and know all the answers in a few days.
What rubbish.
I fear that foreign media consultants will be no better...
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not only did they stay in five-star hotels in Beijing and Shanghai, they have also come to China with color-glasses, and stereotyped brain-frames.
no wonder that many western press reports (about China) are notoriously biased.
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Thanks, zglobal.
not only did they stay in five-star hotels in Beijing and Shanghai, they have also come to China with color-glasses, and stereotyped brain-frames.
no wonder that may west ...
CD,
It's a very successful blend of socialism, capitalism and state capitalism. Unique all over the world. This is it what makes people in the West shiver. They don't have an answer to this attractive form of government. For many nations China is like a magnet, they are keen to learn more about China's economic miracle. I bet that in the next 10, 20 years we'll see several copies of this model in other developing countries. Vietnam already embraced it. 2008-4-8 02:39 PM#20
