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December 21st, 2007, 01:18 PM
9/11 Truth Manifesto
By Joel S. Hirschhorn
12/20/07 "ICH" -- -- For evidence that America’s political system is a criminal conspiracy, open your mind to piles of new analyses that prove beyond doubt that the official 9/11 story is a lie. Years of a bipartisan cover-up of 9/11 lies make it much more than one horrendous past event. It endures in infamy as a symptom of a corrupt and dishonest government.
Every day we pay for what 9/11 and its cover-up have burdened us with, including the costly Iraq war and the erosion of the rule of law and constitutional rights. Power elites have suppressed the truth because they fear what will happen when the public understands that 9/11 was not accomplished solely by foreign terrorists.
Technically sound analyses of what happened at the World Trade Center have unequivocally shown that the official 9/11 story is not credible (www.ae911truth.org). Truth seekers have met their burden of proof; the government has not met theirs. Simply put, controlled demolition brought down three buildings, not fires from the impact of planes on two of them. Not only was the US government involved, it has also conspired to hide the truth from the public. Why? Republican and Democratic politicians and power elites fear that 9/11 truth will remove what little public trust remains in government. The truth will produce political instability, perhaps breaking the two-party stranglehold on our political system. And it should. And it must, if we are to finally obtain the deep political reforms our nation desperately needs.
The decline started before George W. Bush and his criminal co-conspirators accelerated it with their blatant disregard for the rule of law and our Constitution. It will continue, even with a Democratic administration, unless we reform our political system. We must remind Americans that our nation was born in an insurrectionist, populist rebellion against political tyranny – and that 9/11 teaches us that we need a Second American Revolution. We must destroy the domestic Axis of Arrogance of our plutocracy more than fear a foreign Axis of Evil. How?
A vast nationwide grassroots 9/11 truth movement is ignored by the mainstream news media. Its success will be the catalyst for renewing American democracy. It will produce a shock wave that rattles the brains of all Americans: Shock therapy from a truth so powerful and unsettling that Americans finally see the decline of American democracy that allowed 9/11 and its cover-up.
Make no mistake, the 9/11 truth movement holds the future of the United States. We are not subversive “conspiracy theorists” or enablers of foreign terrorism. We are patriotic warriors working to nullify group delusion produced by government propaganda. Dozens of books and websites reveal countless technical contradictions and inconsistencies with the official government 9/11 story and the laws of physics. The weight of the evidence supports one painful verdict: Our federal government played a role, probably through a large “black op.” The “why” is obvious: To justify an unjust war to serve corporate interests and greed.
Here is our opportunity: To make 9/11 the tipping point for American democracy renewal. Our enemies fear that if this movement succeeds, their plutocratic, elitist cabal – the Axis of Arrogance – run by the two-party duopoly will collapse. Corruption keeps our political system stable – truth must clean it up. Instability is the necessary price for restoring democracy.
A Paradigm Shift
9/11 lies have sustained the ruling terrorism-threat paradigm. 9/11 truth must energize a new political-reform paradigm. Patriotism framed as defending the nation against terrorism must be replaced by patriotism focused on repairing American democracy.
Already, status quo protectionists lie about us to defeat our movement. Things will get worse as our movement draws closer to bringing down the corrupt political system. And we are getting closer. Only 16 percent of Americans believe that members of the Bush administration are telling the truth about what they knew about terrorist attacks on the US prior to 9/11, according to a New York Times/CBS News poll. But what people say in polls is not the same as coming out publicly and vociferously for 9/11 truth, or seeing the roots of 9/11 in the decay of American democracy, not merely the actions of a few evil people.
The deceived public must be re-educated to see the arrogant power elites running our national plutocracy as worse than radical Islamic terrorists. Paul Craig Roberts captured the essence of the problem: “Americans think their danger is terrorists. They don't understand the terrorists cannot take away habeas corpus, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution. ... The terrorists are not anything like the threat that we face to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution from our own government in the name of fighting terrorism. Americans just aren't able to perceive that.”
9/11 is a history lesson to inform the nation about democracy decline. As John McMurtry asked, “So which goes - the faith in America’s greatness and goodness in the world, or the facts which disclose the opposite at the very top?” We must always remember that Americans are better than their government. They do not get the government they deserve. They get the government that the rich and powerful impose. That must end.
We confront more than power elites. There is psychological resistance of millions of Americans to painful 9/11 truth – a shameful, “unthinkable” truth about their elected government. Even if they have doubts about the official story, they instinctively recoil and erect mental barriers to block out the full truth. They want to keep believing that they live in a great democracy. They want to believe that when the Bush administration is replaced our democracy will be in good shape again. Hard to accept that 9/11 truth could not have been suppressed this long without the tacit or explicit approval of Democratic politicians and power brokers.
It is as if we are telling children that their parents are mass murderers. Distracted, time-poor, depressed, political disengaged, cynical and insecure Americans do not want to hear that their government had a hand in 9/11. That for years their two-party-controlled government has blatantly lied to them. That thousands of good Americans have died and been terribly injured in a war propped up by the false-flag 9/11 fiction. In sum, that despite elections a vast criminal conspiracy has been so successful for so long. Such thoughts hurt.
Also, political instability is scary to ordinary Americans. But stability based on corruption and lies is destructive. Only when Americans see 9/11 as a political attack (by Americans on Americans) – not solely a terrorist attack (by foreigners on Americans) – will they understand that revealing 9/11 truth must lead to major political reforms. Instability is the cost of democracy renewal.
Here are powerful messages: The collapse of the rule of law is more important than the collapse of buildings. Countless more have died because of 9/11 than on 9/11. The events of 9/11 ultimately are less important than the reasons for and consequences of 9/11.
As John McMurtry said, “[9/11] allowed an illegitimate administration to transmute into America’s patriotic champion at war - above accountability and the rule of law. ‘Defending America from another terrorist attack’ became a political blank check for corporate corruption of government expenditures with impunity, war criminal acts and threats across the Islamic and alternative third world, and attacks on civil rights and commons at home.” All this persists as 9/11 lies persist.
Despite record-low levels of public trust in Congress and the president, too many Americans still believe that elections are the path to major political reforms. Despite a solid history of campaign lies from politicians, and overwhelming belief that the nation is on the wrong track, Americans keep hoping that they can vote their way into a better future. Most Americans do not have a Boston Tea Party mentality. They are unready to revolt despite revolting conditions. Our truth movement must help Americans accept painful truth and its political fallout. We must put all the technical truth discovered by reputable scientists and engineers to work for systemic reforms.
We must do more than oust the official story and obtain a new 9/11 investigation that now has wide support by hundreds of respected Americans (www.patriotsquestion911.com). We must guide Americans into a more patriotic and courageous mental state. We must help Americans become outraged and rebellious, yet also optimistic about major political reforms.
Political Strategy
Success against the power elites running and ruining our nation requires building an army of Americans openly revolting against the two-party corporatist state now in control. The 9/11 truth movement must use political strategies to defeat the status quo political establishment. Here are three actions.
First, with detailed technical analyses unequivocally proving that the official story is false, the movement can draft a bill that might be titled The 9/11 Truth Act of 2008. This proposed federal legislation should be delivered to every member of the House and Senate early next year. It would clarify the investigation: What its scope and objectives must be. What reliable entity, public or private or a combination, must be used. How the public must be given opportunities to present information. What resources must be provided and what time frame must be adhered to.
We must take the initiative and specify exactly what kind of new official 9/11 investigation is necessary, recognizing that professionals in the truth movement have limited resources and cannot address all questions. The 9/11 truth movement itself must define exactly what the first real credible and comprehensive government sponsored investigation must consist of. We can have no confidence in anything that the political establishment might devise to silence our movement. We must tell the public, the media and the political world what is required to reveal the total truth as to what caused, for example, the collapse of three World Trade Center buildings, especially building 7 not even hit by a plane.
Developing and submitting this legislation must then be followed up by all 9/11 groups urging their supporters to bombard Congress with demands for hearings and passage of the bill. This is the way to engage more Americans politically to obtain full 9/11 truth.
However, few politicians’ comments support the truth movement. A rare statement came from presidential candidate Ron Paul. In a radio interview in January, 2007 he said that the 9/11 investigations to date are “more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on.” However, later in the year when he became more visible he was asked about the possibility of the official story being orchestrated by the government. He said emphatically “absolutely not.” In another interview, when asked whether he thought 9/11 was an inside job that our government made happen, he responded forcefully “No.” So apparently Paul sees a cover-up but not about the involvement of our government. Would he support legislation for a new investigation?
Thus the second critical political action is this: Proclaim that only politicians that actively support passage of our legislation will earn support in the 2008 elections from the millions of Americans doubting the official 9/11 story. This threat is an absolute necessity. If the legislation is not passed by Congress and signed into law by President Bush, then we must aggressively support a boycott on voting for all Democrats and Republicans in the 2008 federal elections.
Third, all those committed to 9/11 truth should honor what the Founders gave us in our Constitution in case some day Americans lost confidence in the federal government, especially in Congress. That day has arrived. 9/11 was that day. They gave us the option in Article V for a convention of state delegates to propose constitutional amendments. We must see SYSTEM reforms as only achievable through constitutional amendments that Congress will never propose nor achieve through normal legislation.
Congress and the entire elitist political establishment have intentionally denied us a convention for over 200 years. The one and only requirement in Article V has more than been satisfied by over 500 state applications from all 50 states. Enough is enough. Our truth movement should join the effort of Friends of the Article V Convention at www.foavc.org by urging truth group members to join FOAVC. The political establishment fears both 9/11 truth and an Article V convention. We must grasp that 9/11 truth can bring us to the brink of political reforms and the convention is the process to obtain them.
Conclusion
The 9/11 truth movement must also be a political movement – but not in any partisan sense. 9/11 truth can help Americans take back their country. 9/11 truth can end the criminal, corrupt and conniving plutocracy that stole our government and mutilated our democracy.
We must transform 9/11 from a catalyzing event for imperialistic war-mongering to one for democracy renewal. We must convert terrorist-transfixed fear into political reform enthusiasm.
The pursuit of truth is not always the pursuit of happiness – not when the truth hurts. The 9/11 truth movement is not about finding immediate happiness. It is about rebooting American democracy and, after accomplishing that, earning happiness.
A former full professor of engineering at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, and then senior official with the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment and the National Governors Association, Joel S. Hirschhorn is now an activist writer and can be reached through www.delusionaldemocracy.com. This article is based on presentations given at a recent conference sponsored by Boston 9/11 Truth.
9/11 Truth Manifesto
By Joel S. Hirschhorn
12/20/07 "ICH" -- -- For evidence that America’s political system is a criminal conspiracy, open your mind to piles of new analyses that prove beyond doubt that the official 9/11 story is a lie. Years of a bipartisan cover-up of 9/11 lies make it much more than one horrendous past event. It endures in infamy as a symptom of a corrupt and dishonest government.
Every day we pay for what 9/11 and its cover-up have burdened us with, including the costly Iraq war and the erosion of the rule of law and constitutional rights. Power elites have suppressed the truth because they fear what will happen when the public understands that 9/11 was not accomplished solely by foreign terrorists.
Technically sound analyses of what happened at the World Trade Center have unequivocally shown that the official 9/11 story is not credible (www.ae911truth.org). Truth seekers have met their burden of proof; the government has not met theirs. Simply put, controlled demolition brought down three buildings, not fires from the impact of planes on two of them. Not only was the US government involved, it has also conspired to hide the truth from the public. Why? Republican and Democratic politicians and power elites fear that 9/11 truth will remove what little public trust remains in government. The truth will produce political instability, perhaps breaking the two-party stranglehold on our political system. And it should. And it must, if we are to finally obtain the deep political reforms our nation desperately needs.
The decline started before George W. Bush and his criminal co-conspirators accelerated it with their blatant disregard for the rule of law and our Constitution. It will continue, even with a Democratic administration, unless we reform our political system. We must remind Americans that our nation was born in an insurrectionist, populist rebellion against political tyranny – and that 9/11 teaches us that we need a Second American Revolution. We must destroy the domestic Axis of Arrogance of our plutocracy more than fear a foreign Axis of Evil. How?
A vast nationwide grassroots 9/11 truth movement is ignored by the mainstream news media. Its success will be the catalyst for renewing American democracy. It will produce a shock wave that rattles the brains of all Americans: Shock therapy from a truth so powerful and unsettling that Americans finally see the decline of American democracy that allowed 9/11 and its cover-up.
Make no mistake, the 9/11 truth movement holds the future of the United States. We are not subversive “conspiracy theorists” or enablers of foreign terrorism. We are patriotic warriors working to nullify group delusion produced by government propaganda. Dozens of books and websites reveal countless technical contradictions and inconsistencies with the official government 9/11 story and the laws of physics. The weight of the evidence supports one painful verdict: Our federal government played a role, probably through a large “black op.” The “why” is obvious: To justify an unjust war to serve corporate interests and greed.
Here is our opportunity: To make 9/11 the tipping point for American democracy renewal. Our enemies fear that if this movement succeeds, their plutocratic, elitist cabal – the Axis of Arrogance – run by the two-party duopoly will collapse. Corruption keeps our political system stable – truth must clean it up. Instability is the necessary price for restoring democracy.
A Paradigm Shift
9/11 lies have sustained the ruling terrorism-threat paradigm. 9/11 truth must energize a new political-reform paradigm. Patriotism framed as defending the nation against terrorism must be replaced by patriotism focused on repairing American democracy.
Already, status quo protectionists lie about us to defeat our movement. Things will get worse as our movement draws closer to bringing down the corrupt political system. And we are getting closer. Only 16 percent of Americans believe that members of the Bush administration are telling the truth about what they knew about terrorist attacks on the US prior to 9/11, according to a New York Times/CBS News poll. But what people say in polls is not the same as coming out publicly and vociferously for 9/11 truth, or seeing the roots of 9/11 in the decay of American democracy, not merely the actions of a few evil people.
The deceived public must be re-educated to see the arrogant power elites running our national plutocracy as worse than radical Islamic terrorists. Paul Craig Roberts captured the essence of the problem: “Americans think their danger is terrorists. They don't understand the terrorists cannot take away habeas corpus, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution. ... The terrorists are not anything like the threat that we face to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution from our own government in the name of fighting terrorism. Americans just aren't able to perceive that.”
9/11 is a history lesson to inform the nation about democracy decline. As John McMurtry asked, “So which goes - the faith in America’s greatness and goodness in the world, or the facts which disclose the opposite at the very top?” We must always remember that Americans are better than their government. They do not get the government they deserve. They get the government that the rich and powerful impose. That must end.
We confront more than power elites. There is psychological resistance of millions of Americans to painful 9/11 truth – a shameful, “unthinkable” truth about their elected government. Even if they have doubts about the official story, they instinctively recoil and erect mental barriers to block out the full truth. They want to keep believing that they live in a great democracy. They want to believe that when the Bush administration is replaced our democracy will be in good shape again. Hard to accept that 9/11 truth could not have been suppressed this long without the tacit or explicit approval of Democratic politicians and power brokers.
It is as if we are telling children that their parents are mass murderers. Distracted, time-poor, depressed, political disengaged, cynical and insecure Americans do not want to hear that their government had a hand in 9/11. That for years their two-party-controlled government has blatantly lied to them. That thousands of good Americans have died and been terribly injured in a war propped up by the false-flag 9/11 fiction. In sum, that despite elections a vast criminal conspiracy has been so successful for so long. Such thoughts hurt.
Also, political instability is scary to ordinary Americans. But stability based on corruption and lies is destructive. Only when Americans see 9/11 as a political attack (by Americans on Americans) – not solely a terrorist attack (by foreigners on Americans) – will they understand that revealing 9/11 truth must lead to major political reforms. Instability is the cost of democracy renewal.
Here are powerful messages: The collapse of the rule of law is more important than the collapse of buildings. Countless more have died because of 9/11 than on 9/11. The events of 9/11 ultimately are less important than the reasons for and consequences of 9/11.
As John McMurtry said, “[9/11] allowed an illegitimate administration to transmute into America’s patriotic champion at war - above accountability and the rule of law. ‘Defending America from another terrorist attack’ became a political blank check for corporate corruption of government expenditures with impunity, war criminal acts and threats across the Islamic and alternative third world, and attacks on civil rights and commons at home.” All this persists as 9/11 lies persist.
Despite record-low levels of public trust in Congress and the president, too many Americans still believe that elections are the path to major political reforms. Despite a solid history of campaign lies from politicians, and overwhelming belief that the nation is on the wrong track, Americans keep hoping that they can vote their way into a better future. Most Americans do not have a Boston Tea Party mentality. They are unready to revolt despite revolting conditions. Our truth movement must help Americans accept painful truth and its political fallout. We must put all the technical truth discovered by reputable scientists and engineers to work for systemic reforms.
We must do more than oust the official story and obtain a new 9/11 investigation that now has wide support by hundreds of respected Americans (www.patriotsquestion911.com). We must guide Americans into a more patriotic and courageous mental state. We must help Americans become outraged and rebellious, yet also optimistic about major political reforms.
Political Strategy
Success against the power elites running and ruining our nation requires building an army of Americans openly revolting against the two-party corporatist state now in control. The 9/11 truth movement must use political strategies to defeat the status quo political establishment. Here are three actions.
First, with detailed technical analyses unequivocally proving that the official story is false, the movement can draft a bill that might be titled The 9/11 Truth Act of 2008. This proposed federal legislation should be delivered to every member of the House and Senate early next year. It would clarify the investigation: What its scope and objectives must be. What reliable entity, public or private or a combination, must be used. How the public must be given opportunities to present information. What resources must be provided and what time frame must be adhered to.
We must take the initiative and specify exactly what kind of new official 9/11 investigation is necessary, recognizing that professionals in the truth movement have limited resources and cannot address all questions. The 9/11 truth movement itself must define exactly what the first real credible and comprehensive government sponsored investigation must consist of. We can have no confidence in anything that the political establishment might devise to silence our movement. We must tell the public, the media and the political world what is required to reveal the total truth as to what caused, for example, the collapse of three World Trade Center buildings, especially building 7 not even hit by a plane.
Developing and submitting this legislation must then be followed up by all 9/11 groups urging their supporters to bombard Congress with demands for hearings and passage of the bill. This is the way to engage more Americans politically to obtain full 9/11 truth.
However, few politicians’ comments support the truth movement. A rare statement came from presidential candidate Ron Paul. In a radio interview in January, 2007 he said that the 9/11 investigations to date are “more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on.” However, later in the year when he became more visible he was asked about the possibility of the official story being orchestrated by the government. He said emphatically “absolutely not.” In another interview, when asked whether he thought 9/11 was an inside job that our government made happen, he responded forcefully “No.” So apparently Paul sees a cover-up but not about the involvement of our government. Would he support legislation for a new investigation?
Thus the second critical political action is this: Proclaim that only politicians that actively support passage of our legislation will earn support in the 2008 elections from the millions of Americans doubting the official 9/11 story. This threat is an absolute necessity. If the legislation is not passed by Congress and signed into law by President Bush, then we must aggressively support a boycott on voting for all Democrats and Republicans in the 2008 federal elections.
Third, all those committed to 9/11 truth should honor what the Founders gave us in our Constitution in case some day Americans lost confidence in the federal government, especially in Congress. That day has arrived. 9/11 was that day. They gave us the option in Article V for a convention of state delegates to propose constitutional amendments. We must see SYSTEM reforms as only achievable through constitutional amendments that Congress will never propose nor achieve through normal legislation.
Congress and the entire elitist political establishment have intentionally denied us a convention for over 200 years. The one and only requirement in Article V has more than been satisfied by over 500 state applications from all 50 states. Enough is enough. Our truth movement should join the effort of Friends of the Article V Convention at www.foavc.org by urging truth group members to join FOAVC. The political establishment fears both 9/11 truth and an Article V convention. We must grasp that 9/11 truth can bring us to the brink of political reforms and the convention is the process to obtain them.
Conclusion
The 9/11 truth movement must also be a political movement – but not in any partisan sense. 9/11 truth can help Americans take back their country. 9/11 truth can end the criminal, corrupt and conniving plutocracy that stole our government and mutilated our democracy.
We must transform 9/11 from a catalyzing event for imperialistic war-mongering to one for democracy renewal. We must convert terrorist-transfixed fear into political reform enthusiasm.
The pursuit of truth is not always the pursuit of happiness – not when the truth hurts. The 9/11 truth movement is not about finding immediate happiness. It is about rebooting American democracy and, after accomplishing that, earning happiness.
A former full professor of engineering at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, and then senior official with the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment and the National Governors Association, Joel S. Hirschhorn is now an activist writer and can be reached through www.delusionaldemocracy.com. This article is based on presentations given at a recent conference sponsored by Boston 9/11 Truth.
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December 21st, 2007, 01:24 PM
Wow, get your tinfoil hats on, the conspiracy nuts are comin outta the woodwork again, why don't those butterfly nets catch the big ones. This person escaped his straight jacket etc etc
I just thought I'd save the usual low brow participants of discussion of this subject some painfull work getting a one line dis written up by doing it for them.
Wow, get your tinfoil hats on, the conspiracy nuts are comin outta the woodwork again, why don't those butterfly nets catch the big ones. This person escaped his straight jacket etc etc
I just thought I'd save the usual low brow participants of discussion of this subject some painfull work getting a one line dis written up by doing it for them. Hawkings former plumber
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December 21st, 2007, 01:28 PM
Hey, what's the difference between a moron and a 9/11 conspiracy denier?
The moron can get the lightbulb in by himself after a while. hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahah: lol:
Hey, what's the difference between a moron and a 9/11 conspiracy denier?
The moron can get the lightbulb in by himself after a while. hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahah
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December 21st, 2007, 01:31 PM
Hey, what's the difference between a light bulb and a 9/11 conspiracy denier?
The average 40 watt light bulb is 20 watts brighter than a 9/11 conspiracy denier.hahahahahahahahhahahahahahah 
Hey, what's the difference between a light bulb and a 9/11 conspiracy denier?
The average 40 watt light bulb is 20 watts brighter than a 9/11 conspiracy denier.hahahahahahahahhahahahahahah
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December 21st, 2007, 01:33 PM
Hey ,what's the difference between a 9/11 conspiracy denier and a moron?
A moron can pick his own nose without Dr Fills help.hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Hey ,what's the difference between a 9/11 conspiracy denier and a moron?
A moron can pick his own nose without Dr Fills help.hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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December 21st, 2007, 01:36 PM
Hey, a moron a 9/11 conspiracy denier and a 40 watt lightbulb were cast adrift on the highseas.
The moron slow roasted the 9/11 conspiracy denier over the 40 watt lightbulb.
hahahahahahahahahahaha o/k I'm finished for now.
Hey, a moron a 9/11 conspiracy denier and a 40 watt lightbulb were cast adrift on the highseas.
The moron slow roasted the 9/11 conspiracy denier over the 40 watt lightbulb.
hahahahahahahahahahaha o/k I'm finished for now.
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December 21st, 2007, 02:04 PM
Guess what Smack that joke is very soon goin to be on you. You're one of the fifty or sixty dynOsours on the planet that don't know **** from shineola.hahahahahahahahahah but i gotta love ya. hahahahahah
Guess what Smack that joke is very soon goin to be on you. You're one of the fifty or sixty dynOsours on the planet that don't know **** from shineola.hahahahahahahahahah but i gotta love ya. hahahahahah
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December 21st, 2007, 02:05 PM
Woof!
Quoting EagleSmack
It'll never work.... It's BYOB.
Wow...
Introducing the NEW THIRD PARTY!
THE 9/11 PARTY!
Introducing the NEW THIRD PARTY!
THE 9/11 PARTY!
Woof!
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December 21st, 2007, 02:07 PM
How did the Aliens get to Hirschhorn Smack? He has a brain slightly bigger than your SUV.
How did the Aliens get to Hirschhorn Smack? He has a brain slightly bigger than your SUV.
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December 21st, 2007, 02:13 PM
We got to get the goddamn atheist commie democrat terrorists 9/11 conspiracy nuts out of our universitys so our pastors and tellyvanjellists can save us from Eyerainian smartnukebombsand misseels.hahahahahahahahahahahahahh capitalism eats brains, it's soon going to starve in the USAhahahah
We got to get the goddamn atheist commie democrat terrorists 9/11 conspiracy nuts out of our universitys so our pastors and tellyvanjellists can save us from Eyerainian smartnukebombsand misseels.hahahahahahahahahahahahahh capitalism eats brains, it's soon going to starve in the USAhahahah
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December 21st, 2007, 02:15 PM
I don't have an SUV. I have my trusty Cavalier.
The JOKE will be on me? Now that REALLY makes me laugh. The 9/11 nuts are being laughed at all over the world. Heck even the muslims are ripped that you are giving Bush the credit for their masterpiece!
Nah... you folks will go on until you all die and fade away with age. Much like the hippies of the 60's...retiring with a whimper.
The Lost Cause...
The Revolution that never came...
I don't have an SUV. I have my trusty Cavalier.
The JOKE will be on me? Now that REALLY makes me laugh. The 9/11 nuts are being laughed at all over the world. Heck even the muslims are ripped that you are giving Bush the credit for their masterpiece!
Nah... you folks will go on until you all die and fade away with age. Much like the hippies of the 60's...retiring with a whimper.
The Lost Cause...
The Revolution that never came...
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December 21st, 2007, 03:21 PM
Smack, there are so few people in the world who believe the buildings were trashed by the Eyranian super pilots even you can count them without takin your boots off. Nice reliable senseable blue collar car those caviliers, wish I could afford one.
Smack, there are so few people in the world who believe the buildings were trashed by the Eyranian super pilots even you can count them without takin your boots off. Nice reliable senseable blue collar car those caviliers, wish I could afford one.
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December 21st, 2007, 03:42 PM
Woof!
Quoting EagleSmack
What?? No more hippies?? Hell, nobody tolt me!
I don't have an SUV. I have my trusty Cavalier.
The JOKE will be on me? Now that REALLY makes me laugh. The 9/11 nuts are being laughed at all over the world. Heck even the muslims are ripped that you are giving Bush the credit for their masterpiece!
Nah... you folks will go on until you all die and fade away with age. Much like the hippies of the 60's...retiring with a whimper.
The Lost Cause...
The Revolution that never came...
The JOKE will be on me? Now that REALLY makes me laugh. The 9/11 nuts are being laughed at all over the world. Heck even the muslims are ripped that you are giving Bush the credit for their masterpiece!
Nah... you folks will go on until you all die and fade away with age. Much like the hippies of the 60's...retiring with a whimper.
The Lost Cause...
The Revolution that never came...
Woof!
Hawkings former plumber
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Location: RR1 Distopia 666 Discordia Drive Apt 911
December 21st, 2007, 03:48 PM
The conspiracy deniers will eventualy blame every other organism on the planet before they think to look under thier own beds.
Quoting lone wolf
The level of reason offered up ny the conspiracy deniers goes all the way up tp blameing hippys Wolf, how can anyone question the wisdom of these people? I should be ashamed of myself for doubting the official word.
What?? No more hippies?? Hell, nobody tolt me!
Woof!
Woof!
The conspiracy deniers will eventualy blame every other organism on the planet before they think to look under thier own beds.
Hawkings former plumber
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Location: RR1 Distopia 666 Discordia Drive Apt 911
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Location: RR1 Distopia 666 Discordia Drive Apt 911
December 21st, 2007, 04:29 PM
It's quite disappointing to me personally and to the good people of this planet that the most pivital event of the 21st century is not discussed here with vigourous and intelligent discourse, while I am to blame for much of the silence on the issue it still amazes me the fear and suspicion surrounding the issue. Very seriously, if this issue is not the issue that deserves the undevided attention of every man women and child in this country and does not illicit the publication and integration of the truth surrounding that cowardly false flag operation then we can expect nothing in the future but a greatly more destructive and deadly repeat of history. It proceeds now even as we pay homage to gluttony and murder in the name of democracy long dead. No one can hide from this crime, if we accept it we will accept murder on a scale that will decimate the planet.
It's quite disappointing to me personally and to the good people of this planet that the most pivital event of the 21st century is not discussed here with vigourous and intelligent discourse, while I am to blame for much of the silence on the issue it still amazes me the fear and suspicion surrounding the issue. Very seriously, if this issue is not the issue that deserves the undevided attention of every man women and child in this country and does not illicit the publication and integration of the truth surrounding that cowardly false flag operation then we can expect nothing in the future but a greatly more destructive and deadly repeat of history. It proceeds now even as we pay homage to gluttony and murder in the name of democracy long dead. No one can hide from this crime, if we accept it we will accept murder on a scale that will decimate the planet.
Knows No Bounds
Posts: 2,912
Location: USA
Location: USA
December 23rd, 2007, 09:54 AM
No...9/11 hobbyist/conspiracist although very loud and passionate are still very much in the minority world wide. True they have lots of videos on YouTube and websites and blogs galor but they only feed each other and now they feed off each other.
Even their anti-govt hero Chomsky has called these people foolish as in his words it detracts from (what he considers) the real problems.
Conspiracist have now flooded the world with theories of all sorts. Jews told not to go to work, holograms, explosives, missiles, victims still alive, CIA explosives..etc. It goes on and on. Now these groups are fighting amongst each other about how their conspiracy theory is the real one!
I suggest this page.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons
But one thing I know to be fact is that the Jews sank the Titanic.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07
No...9/11 hobbyist/conspiracist although very loud and passionate are still very much in the minority world wide. True they have lots of videos on YouTube and websites and blogs galor but they only feed each other and now they feed off each other.
Even their anti-govt hero Chomsky has called these people foolish as in his words it detracts from (what he considers) the real problems.
Conspiracist have now flooded the world with theories of all sorts. Jews told not to go to work, holograms, explosives, missiles, victims still alive, CIA explosives..etc. It goes on and on. Now these groups are fighting amongst each other about how their conspiracy theory is the real one!
I suggest this page.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons
But one thing I know to be fact is that the Jews sank the Titanic.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07
Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 4,532
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
December 23rd, 2007, 10:31 AM
...or how radar in the busiest airspace in the world - even with ATC reports - could miss four rogue blips;
...or fighter interceptors in the most paranoid and trigger-happy nation on the planet remained on the ground or flew off in the wrong directions;
...or how an inexperienced pilot could hold a big jet - at speeds over 500 MPH - on a straight, level and physically impossible mile-long near-deck approach (don't forget, not only was he battling the laws of physics to hold that plane level, he was fighting the computer that flies the plane) and not even touch ground with engine nacelles that extend twelve feet below the fuselage....
don't expect credibility for your official conspiracy. The world is not as gullible as you.
Woof
Quoting EagleSmack
Until you can explain how four "terrorists" who washed out on straight and level flight in VFR Cessnas could take over the controls of four passenger jets at altitudes where visual flight is near impossible, change directions, jink all over the sky and attain targets;
No...9/11 hobbyist/conspiracist although very loud and passionate are still very much in the minority world wide. True they have lots of videos on YouTube and websites and blogs galor but they only feed each other and now they feed off each other.
Even their anti-govt hero Chomsky has called these people foolish as in his words it detracts from (what he considers) the real problems.
Conspiracist have now flooded the world with theories of all sorts. Jews told not to go to work, holograms, explosives, missiles, victims still alive, CIA explosives..etc. It goes on and on. Now these groups are fighting amongst each other about how their conspiracy theory is the real one!
I suggest this page.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons
But one thing I know to be fact is that the Jews sank the Titanic.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07
Even their anti-govt hero Chomsky has called these people foolish as in his words it detracts from (what he considers) the real problems.
Conspiracist have now flooded the world with theories of all sorts. Jews told not to go to work, holograms, explosives, missiles, victims still alive, CIA explosives..etc. It goes on and on. Now these groups are fighting amongst each other about how their conspiracy theory is the real one!
I suggest this page.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons
But one thing I know to be fact is that the Jews sank the Titanic.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07
...or how radar in the busiest airspace in the world - even with ATC reports - could miss four rogue blips;
...or fighter interceptors in the most paranoid and trigger-happy nation on the planet remained on the ground or flew off in the wrong directions;
...or how an inexperienced pilot could hold a big jet - at speeds over 500 MPH - on a straight, level and physically impossible mile-long near-deck approach (don't forget, not only was he battling the laws of physics to hold that plane level, he was fighting the computer that flies the plane) and not even touch ground with engine nacelles that extend twelve feet below the fuselage....
don't expect credibility for your official conspiracy. The world is not as gullible as you.
Woof
