Public executions in Iran as seven hang for rape and robbery

[Blackleaf]

Public executions in Iran as seven hang for rape and robbery

1st August 2007
Daily Mail

Iran has publicly hanged seven men in the second round of collective executions in ten days, state media reported.

"These people were hanged on charges of rape, kidnapping and robbery," the Web site of the state's broadcasting company reported, quoting an unnamed prosecutor.

Five of the men were hanged in one execution in the center of Mashad, a town some 620 miles northwest of Tehran, the capital, state media said.

Five of the men that were hanged in Iran for crimes of rape, kidnapping and robbery


The report said the two other convicts, both 24, were hanged in a different neighbourhood of Mashad, close to where they were accused of having raped a woman in 2005.

Earlier in July authorities hanged 12 criminals convicted on similar charges in Tehran.

dailymail.co.uk

 

[Impetus]

Lends itself to a low recitivism rate, doesn't it?

Man, they don't even take off their shoes first!

I'd say they can be considered well hung...
Muz

Public executions in Iran as seven hang for rape and robbery

1st August 2007
Daily Mail

Iran has publicly hanged seven men in the second round of collective executions in ten days, state media reported.

"These people were hanged on charges of rape, kidnapping and robbery," the Web site of the state's broadcasting company reported, quoting an unnamed prosecutor.

Five of the men were hanged in one execution in the center of Mashad, a town some 620 miles northwest of Tehran, the capital, state media said.

Five of the men that were hanged in Iran for crimes of rape, kidnapping and robbery


The report said the two other convicts, both 24, were hanged in a different neighbourhood of Mashad, close to where they were accused of having raped a woman in 2005.

Earlier in July authorities hanged 12 criminals convicted on similar charges in Tehran.

dailymail.co.uk

 

[earth_as_one]

Pretty barbaric.

But the country which executes the most people is China, not Iran.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=127&

The US isn't that far behind Iran in numbers and typically uses lethal injection which may or may not be more humane than hanging.

...In most states three chemicals are used for lethal injection: Sodium thiopental, pancuronium bromide, and potassium chloride. The first of these is considered an ultra-short-acting bromide which is effective as an anesthesia for just a few minutes. The second, pancuronium bromide, marketed as Pavulon, paralyzes the skeletal muscles without affecting the nerves or brain. The individual injected with Pavulon is conscious without being able to move or speak, thus giving the impression of serenity or tranquility. In the state of Tennessee, it is a crime for veterinarians to use this drug in euthanizing pets. The final injection, potassium chloride, stops the heart while causing excruciating pain. The effect of this “cocktail,” according to testimony by Dr. Mark J.S. Heath who teaches anesthesiology at Columbia, is “that the sodium thiopental can be inadequate or wear off”…leaving “the prisoner conscious, paralyzed, suffocating and subject to extreme pain from the potassium chloride” (Liptak, NYT, 10/7/2003).
According to Judge Ellen Hobbs Lyle, “The subject gives all the appearances of a serene expiration when actually the subject is feeling and perceiving the excruciatingly painful ordeal of death by lethal injection…the Pavulon gives a false impression of serenity to viewers, making punishment by death more palatable and acceptable to society” (Liptak, NYT, 10/7/2003).

http://www.ocucc.org/DeathPenalty/Problems.htm

Looks more humane, but its not really that different than hanging.

By the way, the US has also hangs people like Iran. They also use firing squad, gas chamber and electrocution.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=8&did=245

 

[Colpy]

EAO, I am not a big fan of the death penalty......too much of a chance of executing the wrong person.

However, there is a vast difference between executions done in the USA and those done in either Iran or China. In the USA, the executed person has definitely had a fair trial, considering the number of appeals most condemned people are allowed. Not so in China or Iran.

That is a BIG difference.

 

[earth_as_one]

"In the USA, the executed person has definitely had a fair trial"

I would disagree with that kind of an absolute statement. There are plenty of examples where the accused did not get a fair trial in the US.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?&did=2238

It would be more accurate to say that its likely Iran and China execute more innocent people than the US. Even in Canada we sometimes get it wrong.

 

[RomSpaceKnight]

But if you are convinced of their guilt why not make it public, like Iran and quick like China with a bullet to the back of the head. Watch you violent crime rate drop then.

Why show basic human kindness to rapists and murderers, they did not to their victims. At least their deaths would serve a purpose that their life did not.

 

[tamarin]

But, despite the many possible objections, there has to be something admirable about a country that can investigate, charge, try, sentence and execute all within a few short months. China excels at efficiency.

 

[Colpy]

"In the USA, the executed person has definitely had a fair trial"

I would disagree with that kind of an absolute statement. There are plenty of examples where the accused did not get a fair trial in the US.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?&did=2238

It would be more accurate to say that its likely Iran and China execute more innocent people than the US. Even in Canada we sometimes get it wrong.

As I said, EAO, I am against the death penalty on single convictions.....I do not doubt the USA has executed innocent people. However, that does not change the fact that those persons DID have a fair trial, and several appeals......were that a sure road to the knowledge of guilt or innocence, my doubt about the death penalty would disappear.

There is no assumption of innocence in China and Iran.....no fair trial, often no opportunity for any defense at all, no appeals, and in China it is extremely possible that the authorities come and yank out a few semi-vital organs BEFORE you get the bullet........and a sure thing after.

There is simply no justifiable comparison between executions in China, Iran, and the USA.

 

[Pangloss]

EAO, I am not a big fan of the death penalty......too much of a chance of executing the wrong person.

However, there is a vast difference between executions done in the USA and those done in either Iran or China. In the USA, the executed person has definitely had a fair trial, considering the number of appeals most condemned people are allowed. Not so in China or Iran.

That is a BIG difference.

In principle a fair trial is available, and certainly more fair than in "cult of personality" countries like China; but if it is indeed so fair, then why are individual states putting moratoriums on executions until they can re-examine convictions?

If the system is so fair, then why does the murder of a white person more often result in a death penalty than the murder of a black or Latino (at least in Texas)?

If the system is so fair, why is O.J. still breathing?

Pangloss

 

[Pangloss]

You are right, Colpy, that there can be no direct comparison between the West's justice system and China's or Saudi Arabia or many other countries.

Pangloss

 

[Pangloss]

But if you are convinced of their guilt why not make it public, like Iran and quick like China with a bullet to the back of the head. Watch you violent crime rate drop then.

Why show basic human kindness to rapists and murderers, they did not to their victims. At least their deaths would serve a purpose that their life did not.

Yeah, Rom, it's certainly not like any lynch mob burned or hung the wrong person. And yee-haw, was it quick!

Pangloss

 

[RomSpaceKnight]

Only in countries colonized by England and that use English Common Law is there a presumption of innocence, usually. Trial by jury is another aspect of English Common Law. Summary trial by magistrate is more common in the world than jury trial. magistrates will try by point of law only and not be swayed either way by emotion.

 

[Toro]

Well, its a good thing they were straight. If they were gay, they'd have been hung outright.

 

[thomaska]

In principle a fair trial is available, and certainly more fair than in "cult of personality" countries like China; but if it is indeed so fair, then why are individual states putting moratoriums on executions until they can re-examine convictions?

If the system is so fair, then why does the murder of a white person more often result in a death penalty than the murder of a black or Latino (at least in Texas)?

If the system is so fair, why is O.J. still breathing?

Pangloss

I like your example of a white murder thing there...especially with the OJ reference.

Hmmmm..might be going out on(a politically incorrect) limb here...but maybe blacks and latinos are commiting most of the crimes..(at least in Texas)

 

[Pangloss]

Thom:

Regardless of the colour of the offender; the murder of a white is more likely to result in a death sentence.

The conviction and execution rate of blacks and Latinos is higher than it is for whites; in other words, if you are black or Latino, you stand a better chance of being convicted than if you are white.

So, if you are black or Latino, you are more likely to be convicted; once convicted, you are more likely than a similarly convicted white to be executed.

Pangloss

 

[Pangloss]

Oh, and BTW:

The trial of O.J. was not the trial of a black man accused of murder.

It was the trial of a very wealthy and famous man and his not-famous accusers.

Big difference, in America.

Pangloss

 

[#juan]

Oh, and BTW:

The trial of O.J. was not the trial of a black man accused of murder.

It was the trial of a very wealthy and famous man and his not-famous accusers.

Big difference, in America.

Pangloss

That wasn't a trial that was a collection of bad jokes. After the lawyers excluded everyone from the jury pool with an I.Q. of over 70, the case was tried in front of judge Ito....the biggest joke. If O.J. Simpson was a "wealthy" man before the trial, he sure as hell wasn't after, or shouldn't have been What the "Dream Team" didn't get, the families of the victims attached later. I don't know if the families of the victims actually got any money but they did win the second trial.

 

[Avro]

"In the USA, the executed person has definitely had a fair trial"

I would disagree with that kind of an absolute statement. There are plenty of examples where the accused did not get a fair trial in the US.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?&did=2238

It would be more accurate to say that its likely Iran and China execute more innocent people than the US. Even in Canada we sometimes get it wrong.

OJ is a classic example of american justice, it comes down to money and state attourneys who earn peanuts compared to their high priced private peers.

 

[Toro]

Oh, and BTW:

The trial of O.J. was not the trial of a black man accused of murder.

It was the trial of a very wealthy and famous man and his not-famous accusers.

Big difference, in America.

Pangloss

Sure it was.

When the prosecution ran test juries using their arguments, black women who were part of the mock juries absolutely refused to vote guilty. Not a single one.

 

[Avro]

Not to mention the prosecution was totally inept.