Saving American lives - better ideas than a War on Terror

Karlin

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Number of deaths in USA each year: 2,398,343
How does the 1500 or so Americans killed on 9/11 comapre to this? It is paltry.

If the Bush government was sincere about saving and protecting American lives, there are several ways that this could be done that are more effective than fighting the "War on Terror" .

In fact, there are now more American soldiers dead in Iraq and Afghanistan than were Americans killed in the 9/11 events. [We still hear them say 3000 American lives were lost that day, but there were many non-Americans who died in those towers]. So the point is lost George.

Suggestions other than fighting the War on Terror for saving American lives [excluding disease treatment and prevention] :
* New Orleans recovery is still needed, and there are residents still dying of illness and homelessness. Also, the rescue immediately after could have been done much better if GW Bush was sincere about saving lives. FEMA actually got in the way of help.

* Vioxx has killed 55,000 Americans - better drug regulations and testing is the answer.

* Reducing pollution and emissions that cause global warming - would save many times the number of lives lost on 9/11, in the future and even just since 2001 if the severity of hurricanes is attributable to climate change and warmer oceans as ifs generally accepted. In the future, extreme weather events will continue to kill many Americans, the number will be directly associated with HOW SOON we bring down emissions. The USA has a 25% responsibility for emissions, and for most of the denials that are delaying emissions reductions - Just stop lying about it and there will be American lives saved!! Pollution, smog esp., is killing off Americans more slowly than the 9/11 events, but they are dead nonetheless. Also, the 9/11 "bad air" has killed the "Heros" who were working in the wreckage of the towers, which was denied and if it was accepted at the time many of them would not be dead or dying now.

* Medical Mistakes actually kill about 44,000 to 100,000 Americans per year. Better training, better methods, and simply counting their instruments in surgery would help. [link below] Quote from another source: "medical mistakes are the third-leading cause of death in the country, behind heart disease and cancer"

*Homelessness and Poverty in the USA results in many deaths each year, more than the total of the 9/11 events. These are easily preventable with proper funding of affordable housing and food, which would be about 1/10th the amount spent killing Iraqis & Afghans each year for the past four years.

. other ideas anyone?

NOTE - the common thread in these is that NONE OF THEM GET BIG MONEY INTO THE HANDS OF Elite wealthy people, the friends of Bush, and their favorite corporations, whereas The War on Terror certainly does.

9/11 was just a very stunning visual scene, but not such a huge tragedy as it is being made out to be. Why is that? Why are their leaders and mass media bent on making it out to be worse than it really was? Don't good leaders usually try to comfort their civilians in times of tragedy? Why are they using it to scare people as much as possible, even five yers later?
- for the same reason it was done in the first place - to win support for "going all the way into Baghdad".

The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) was "the single greatest obstacle to doing anything effective" about Vioxx

The refusal of entry of rescuers and the Red Cross into New Orleans by FEMA resulted in many needless deaths.

Therefore it could be concluded that the Bush Adminstation is the bigger threat to the American people, other than wealthy Elites.


Karlin


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Medical Mistakes kills 44,000 annually:
http://orthopedics.about.com/library/weekly/aa120299a.htm
 

tamarin

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RE: Saving American lives - better ideas than a War on Terro

Jim Morrison ., the drugged-out, hippied lord of the Doors (or his biographer) allowed none of us gets out of here alive.
The biggest killers are stress and noise and these have their own progenitors and descendents.
Longevity ain't all it's cracked up to be.
 

iARTthere4iam

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RE: Saving American lives - better ideas than a War on Terro

911 was just a traumatizing event, unlike the other killers you mentioned. It's easy to get peopl rallying behind the cause, even though it is not likely to cause the destruction of the US.

the War on terror isn't likely to stop terrorism because it isn't a thing. It's not a person or a group, it is a tactic that any group or individual could use. Like guerilla warfare, terrorism is used when your enemy is stronger than you. Terrorism is used to destablize and demoralize your enemy. The erosion of freedoms in the US, a free society, is the saddest part of the outcome of 911.

However if terrorism were to stop citizens from going about their daily lives I would say that terrorism must be stopped (however futile that may be in the end). Like crime, arson or robbery for example, a single event may not destroy a nation, but if it were to become common would certainly make life very uncomfortable and freedom would be impossible.